greysmom Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hope Truman is doing better! Interesting though. I give Cash trazadone on top of her paxil frequently with no adverse reaction like this. Poor Trummie! Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Just getting caught up. Glad to see you have an answer and Truman is on the mend. Not fun to deal with this on top of everything else. Hope he's back to his usual self in no time! Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3greytjoys Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Trazadone and Paxil interactions appear very risky also: http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/paxil-with-trazodone-1800-1156-2228-0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatterseaBrindl Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Quote Nancy...Mom to Sid (Peteles Tiger), Kibo (112 Carlota Galgos) and Joshi. Missing Casey, Gomer, Mona, Penelope, BillieJean, Bandit, Nixon (Starz Sammie), Ruby (Watch Me Dash) Nigel (Nigel), and especially little Mario, waiting at the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acadianarose Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Glad you have some answers. Hope you are feeling better soon, handsome Trummie! Quote Payton, The Greyhound (Palm City Pelton) and Toby, The LabAnnabella and Julietta, The CatsAt the Bridge - Abby, The GSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So glad to read a positive update on Truman. What a scary 24 hours! Quote Laura with Celeste (ICU Celeste) and Galgos Beatrix and Encarna The Horse - Gracie (MD Grace E) Bridge Angels Faye Oops (Santa Fe Oops), Bonny (Bonny Drive), Darcy (D's Zipperfoot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiRayMom Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Glad all is well..........way scary. Quote Blessed is the person who has earned the love of an old dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kar Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 glad to hear he's feeling better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickiesmom Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Reading this thread had my heart pounding, I am so glad Truman is improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So glad to read he's doing better. Sending good thoughts that he's completely back to normal tomorrow. Quote Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 my God, how scary :( sending prayers for you both!!! :Hope Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Giselle Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Glad he's feeling better!! Out of curiosity, what is the dose on Truman's prozac and how quickly did you start him on it? How many weeks has it been? Do you know anything about the Trazodone dose? To be honest, I've only very very very rarely heard of serotonin syndrome, so I'm wondering if it's a matter of dosing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenEveBaz Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Adding our best wishes and gentle cyberhugs. Quote Ellen, with brindle Milo and the blonde ballerina, Gelsey remembering Eve, Baz, Scout, Romie, Nutmeg, and Jeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatricksMom Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Serotonin Syndrome can come on fast and be very scary, even deadly. Some people (and presumably dogs) can safely take multiple Serotonine influencing drugs indefinitly without trouble, others have a problem right away, and it can happen to some people (and presumably dogs) even with unusual pairings not commonly thought to be problematic. The good news is, once he's turned the corner and started improving he should stay on that track and continue to improve. Eta: Serotonin Syndrome is not necessarily dose specific. It can happen very rapidly, even with small doses of the drug to some people, and not at all to others even on other doses. Last I read up on it and discussed it with an MD, there is still very little information about why some people are affected and not others and whether or not a single incident on one combination makes a reoccurence with other combinations more likely. Edited February 18, 2014 by PatricksMom Quote Beth, Petey (8 September 2018- ), and Faith (22 March 2019). Godspeed Patrick (28 April 1999 - 5 August 2012), Murphy (23 June 2004 - 27 July 2013), Leo (1 May 2009 - 27 January 2020), and Henry (10 August 2010 - 7 August 2020), you were loved more than you can know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandiandwe Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Thankful that Truman is on the mend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggiespet Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Hoping Truman continues to feel better. Quote http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g240/mtbucket/siggies/Everyday-2.jpgJane - forever servant to the whims and wishes of Maggie (L's Magnolia of JCKC) and Sam the mutt pup.[/b] She's classy, sassy and a bit smart assy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTRAWLD Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Just catching up on this. How scary. What a good mom you are for observing so closely. I know when one of mine isn't feeling well, and if I make an off comment to someone not "in the know" of dogs, they wonder how I can tell. They are your BABIES and know the second something isn't right. Do you know how he happened to get a hold of a pill he presumably shouldn't have had? Quote Proudly owned by:10 year old "Ryder" CR Redman Gotcha May 201012.5 year old Angel "Kasey" Goodbye Kasey Gotcha July 2005-Aug 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnnziggy Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 How Scary! I am so glad he is on the mend! He is one of my favorites. I love to see pictures of his beautiful face. I hope he continues to improve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grey_dreams Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Glad to hear you have an answer and he is getting better. That must have been so scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINMANPDX Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 How scary this must have been. I am so glad Truman is doing better. Sending well wishes! Quote Theresa (Tess) Mom to Elliott (Sol Flasher) and Lea (PTL Lea) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
queenwinniesmom Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Just seeing this! Wow, you must have been scared to death. Good to see that your sweet boy is improving---hope he continues to do so! Quote Nancy, Mom to Evangelina and Kiva Missing Lacey, Patsy, Buster, my heart dog Nick, Winnie, Pollyanna, Tess, my precious Lydia, Calvin Lee, my angel butterfly Laila, and kitties Lily, Sam and Simon My Etsy shop: http://www.etsy.com/shop/Catsburgandhoundtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Do you know how he happened to get a hold of a pill he presumably shouldn't have had? Yeah, I give Henry his pills in a glob of peanut butter and spoon it on top of his kibble. He must've spit that one out and left it in his bowl. Then I'm guessing Truman swooped in and ate it when Henry walked away. It probably still tasted like peanut butter. I'm definitely going to be more diligent about making sure Henry actually swallows his pills from now on. It was a good thing that I kept a medi-minder organized so I knew exactly what pills were given, and we were able to narrow it down from there. Giselle, the dosage for his Prozac is 40mg, and the Trazadone is 100mg. But the vet explained that it's less of a Seratonin 'overdose' per se. Some dogs are just sensitive to certain psychotropics or combinations thereof. There's no way to test for it to make a definitive diagnosis. But according to the toxicologist, his symptoms should have improved in 8-12 hours when the Trazadone's half life ran out. Everything was pretty diagnostically consistent with SS. Even at this point, 27 hours later, he is still acting a bit ataxic and weak, but he is starting to come around. He ate and drank this evening and has been resting a lot. It could be up to 72 hours before he is completely back to normal. It certainly was a very scary experience, though, and hard to watch your dog act that way. It was like watching a partial seizure go on for hours upon hours. The pads and underside of his feet were bright red from standing and pacing for that long. Trumie's antics definitely got the better of him this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Aww, poor guy. So glad he's calming down now. FWIW, I think this is something many of us are unfamiliar with and will now be aware of and have present in our mind if we see a dog on those meds having similar symptoms. So hopefully his antics will help some other dogs in the future. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mychip1 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Thinking of Truman! Quote Robin, EZ (Tribal Track), JJ (What a Story), Dustin (E's Full House) and our beautiful Jack (Mana Black Jack) and Lily (Chip's Little Miss Lily) both at the BridgeThe WFUBCC honors our beautiful friends at the bridge. Godspeed sweet angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3greytjoys Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Might ask your vet if Truman should avoid peanut butter while on that dose of Prozac. Foods rich in tryptophan/omega 3 fatty acids increase serotonin levels (peanut butter, turkey, pumpkin, etc.). Just a thought: If your vet is keeping Truman on Prozac, if needed, a slightly lower dose might work better going forward than it did initially (when the new drug was just beginning to build in his system). Hopefully the pharmacy or vet clinic provided a Fluoxetine (Prozac) drug warning leaflet including abnormal side effects like muscle tremors, reduced appetite, stool changes, plus many more. If not, might be helpful to find one on-line from the drug manufacturer. If interested, and if your hounds are difficult to administer pills, this device is helpful: http://www.entirelypets.com/pillgun.html I'm relieved Truman didn't fall into grand mal seizures coupled with all his symptoms. Glad he's recovering well in his home environment. What a huge relief that you were home to see him struggling, and got him to the ER in time. Hope you can all rest better this week. Edited February 18, 2014 by 3greytjoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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