AEB Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I agree that the albumin sounds low. I hope things are better this morning and go well with the vet today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racindog Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Just seeing this. MANY prayers going up from KY for Harley and his entire family. I know the Good Shepherd will provide the victory and peace amid this terrible storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hollys2hounds Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Tons of Good thoughts and prayers are sent your way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Good thoughts, healing energy and hugs all being sent your way! What a tough go you are having...I hope today is even just a tiny bit better :goodluck Quote My boys, together again... A hui hou kakou, my loves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fringepup Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Our thoughts and prayers are with you from Pennsylvania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripeyfan Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) So glad to read that Harley is home. Fingers crossed he starts to feel better soon and EAT, even if it's just a little bit at a time. As for the swelling, does your vet have any idea if there's a specific condition behind the IBD symptoms? There are certain ones which come under the banner of IBD which can cause low albumin/protein levels, which the swelling can be a result of. I hope you can get to the bottom of this, and please keep us posted, we're thinking about you and Harley! Edited January 17, 2011 by Stripeyfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_the4pack Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I hope Harley starts to feel better soon. I haven't read all the replies, but did anyone suggest Care Credit? I use it for my dogs all the time. Just make sure to either pay it off, or transfer the balance at the end of the time alotment otherwise you'll get whallopped with high interest. But before then, it's interest free. I've had 18 months to pay off $3000. No interest. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenEveBaz Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Just sending good thoughts. Quote Ellen, with brindle Milo and the blonde ballerina, Gelsey remembering Eve, Baz, Scout, Romie, Nutmeg, and Jeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 wondering how harley is doing tonight. thinking of all of you. Quote Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiRayMom Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hope you got a least a little rest & Harley is doing at least a tiny bit better. Thinking of you...........prayers still coming. Quote Blessed is the person who has earned the love of an old dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jurishound Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 For your Harley! Our beloved Talca had IBD - she was very, very sick with impossibly low albumin levels and abdominal ascites. With a novel protein diet (venison and potato), prednisone and imuran, she improved dramatically. I hope your Harley responds quickly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HappyHarleysMom Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Sorry I'm late getting here today. I have been taking naps in between pill time, bathroom times and food times. Well, I am cautiously optimistic as Harley took another baby step 5am this morning: he ATE again! And, has been doing so every couple hours. Only chicken though. But, for now, we're just trying to get him to eat and if it's only chicken, we'll take that baby step! The vet said I can start increasing the quantity every two hours so I'm giving him about 4-5 T. of food at a time. No vomiting, no spitting up. He is burping and vet says he may have reflux but not to worry at this time unless the burping turns into vomiting. The fluid in his face, paws, and legs looks much better today YAY!! So, the fluid and his not eating were the vets 2 concerns for Harley right now, and both today have improved. We're praying that the improvement will continue. The diarrhea is still there, and is not any firmer at all. But, they're saying that until we can get Harley on novel foods, he may just keep the diarrhea. As long as we don't start seeing blood again. It is possible we may see some bloody diarrhea, as he progresses, but so far we've not seen any. It's still not normal color--it is dark brown, but it's not the black color that it was last week. YAY. His back side continues to improve, and he doesn't mind too much at all when I apply Destin now. Our regular vet gave me another food idea to try and get Hoo Hoo to eat. Since he's turning his nose up at the chicken rice mixture--Dr. Wade says he may be associating it with bad memories of throwing it all up and feeling so badly--anyway she suggested bow tie, spiral, or macaroni pasta boiled in FF chicken broth. That's my next step as soon as I finish here. I've got some fat free, low sodium chicken broth, and I've got the pasta, so we're going to give it a try. Yesterday, Harley was so out of it that his eyes were drowsy looking, almost had that look of being on major drugs or something. Today, he looks more alert, and his eyes look normal. I told the vet, and she said just what we thought, that Harley needed to rest after the hospital stay. Just like people getting no rest in the hospital, Harley needed rest too. Har's overall demeanor is still very quiet, but I must say he looks better than yesterday. He even watched me eat a grilled cheese sandwich--that's the Harley we know and love--keeping his eyes on the food. Yesterday he couldn't even stay awake let alone care what anyone was doing or eating. The prednisone is making him have to go outside every two hours. He drinks his water with no problem, so I know he doesn't need fluids. The prednisone makes him thirsty. His signal of "I have to pee, mom" is that he starts licking his genital area. That's my cue. So, I stand up, then he jumps up and makes a beeline to the door. Yesterday, I had to wake him up and make him get up to pee or poo. So, there's a difference. I also saw him rubbing his face with his paws. Had an itch. It's these little things we're seeing that give us a glimmer of the normal dog, instead of the very sick dog just laying there. I know it's not much, but it's something. AND, when I was in the kitchen breaking up chicken, Har was outside doing his business. When I brought him back inside, I gave him the chicken and I walked back to the counter to break up a little more. Well, yesterday's Harley could care less, and just wanted to go lie down. Today's Harley walked right up to me at the counter, with his needle nose trying to see what I was doing! Another small glimmer of Harley--small, but we'll take it. So, that's where we are right now. We have hope. Real hope. Small, but real. Thanks once again for continuing prayers, white lights, and good thoughts. It's GREATLY appreciated, and working. And, thanks for listening. I'm trying not to beat myself up if I do something wrong like letting Harley's face get swollen yesterday. I'm doing the best I can, I know. I just want to do right by Harley, and be a good nurse/mom to him. I don't want to make any mistakes. Also, our vet did have Care Credit at 26% interest after 6 months. We just couldn't do it. I've been laid up for 2 1/2 years from an accident at home, complications from my injury and 3 surgeries, and haven't been able to get a second job. Chuck took a big pay cut in 2008 when the economy tanked. So, we've struggled to pay regular bills let alone this bill for Harley. There is no way we could have paid this off in 6 months, so the 26% interest would be a bigger problem than the lower rate credit card we did use. But, thanks for the suggestion. I've been out of the wheel chair/crutches since fall, walking with a cane and new back problems from the foot injury, and I will never get better. I have permanent and painful disablity now. But, I'll have to find a second job. I have no choice now. Hopefully, I'll be able to stand my own pain to be able to work outside the home. But, that's another story. (it's been a bad 2 1/2 years) Har's albumin level must be improving since his fluid is greatly reduced today. We were told it was either from the IBD or the inflamed skin, or both. But, I'm hopeful, since it looks way better today. It was in his abdomen as well, and is still there but less of it. His paws and legs look almost normal now, and the swollen face is gone today. Good signs. The reason behind the IBD? We don't know. There is still a chance that Harley has cancer that was not detected with the endoscopy. Harley is not one to eat foreign objects, so that's out. I don't think anyone put anything in our fenced in yard. The worst he could have eaten would be peanuts that squirrels bury in the yard, or rabbit poop. He doesn't have parasites. We can't think of anything out of the ordinary, and they've tested him for various things, so, in answer to why IBD, we just don't know. I'm praying it's not undetected cancer. Harley's progress for survival right now, today, looks a bit better than yesterday. YAY!!!!! I'll pop in later. I'm going to make the pasta right now and maybe get a nap in until next pill time or bathroom time. hugs, Sher _________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Wow- great update! Fingers crossed that he will continue to improve!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 That is a very good update Quote Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyPoopon Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 It's great to hear that he's making progress. A couple of things from my experience with Minnie: it's possible for IBD to lurk undetected until there is a major crisis. And it can take a long time for the stool to firm and for the dog to gain weight, even after a novel protein is introduced--the gut has to heal, and that takes time. Quote Standard Poodle Daisy (12/13) Missing Cora (RL Nevada 5/99-10/09), Piper (Cee Bar Easy 2/99-1/10), Tally (Thunder La La 9/99-3/10), Edie (Daring Reva 9/99-10/12), Dixie (Kiowa Secret Sue 11/01-1/13), Jessie (P's Real Time 11/98-3/13), token boy Graham (Zydeco Dancer 9/00-5/13), Cal (Back Already 12/99-11/13), Betsy (Back Kick Beth 11/98-12/13), Standard Poodles Minnie (1/99-1/14) + Perry (9/98-2/14), Annie (Do Marcia 9/03-10/14), Pink (Miss Pinky Baker 1/02-6/15), Poppy (Cmon Err Not 8/05-1/16), Kat (Jax Candy 5/05-5/17), Ivy (Jax Isis 10/07-7/21), Hildy (Braska Hildy 7/10-12/22), Opal (Jax Opal 7/08-4/23). Toodles (BL Toodles 7/09-4/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 So glad to hear he has improved today. One step at a time. Hugs to you and your family. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytpups Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Wonderful news! Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magdalyn58 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Great update!! Sending more prayers for your dear Harley tonight.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mychip1 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Continued good thoughts from here.... Quote Robin, EZ (Tribal Track), JJ (What a Story), Dustin (E's Full House) and our beautiful Jack (Mana Black Jack) and Lily (Chip's Little Miss Lily) both at the BridgeThe WFUBCC honors our beautiful friends at the bridge. Godspeed sweet angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEB Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Great progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 great update. take care of yourself, sherry. Quote Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhead Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 (edited) I'm so glad the swelling is starting to diminish and hope it continues in that direction! Our IBD dog Spencer developed an inflammatory response to chicken -- along with beef and buffalo -- which is what he was eating when we knew he had SIBO but didn't yet know about the IBD. I'd be very suspicious that Harley has done the same thing. At least I wouldn't be quick to dismiss Harley's reaction as due to negative association with vomiting it. Rice is another thing some IBD dogs can develop inflammation toward. For us, getting to a novel protein and sweet potato for the carb was key to Spencer's recovery of the ability to eat well, gain weight, and do as well as he has. Well, the medicines were also crucial! But we learned to trust Spencer's judgment when he rejected foods. YMMV. Edited January 18, 2011 by greyhead Quote Mary with Jumper Jack (2/17/11) and angels Shane (PA's Busta Rime, 12/10/02 - 10/14/16) and Spencer (Dutch Laser, 11/25/00 - 3/29/13). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4greyhounds Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 We are happy to hear their is progress, even if small. We are continuing to pray for you all.... Quote Darlene Mom to: Aladdin, Sophie ,Pongo, Jasmine, Relic Forever in our Hearts Champ at the Rainbow Bridge. Let a greyhound race into your heart Adopt Bay Area Greyhound Adoptions INC. Naples/ Fort Myers Chapter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvhounds2 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 So glad to hear Harley seems to be going in the right direction. Continuing to send good, healing thoughts. Quote Barb, Mom to Grey's Tickertape & Grey's McCarthy.Always missing: Wizzie and Desi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HappyHarleysMom Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Thanks for the continued thoughts and prayers everyone. It's 1:15am, and Harley's appetite is definitely coming back. He's loving the pasta boiled in ff/low sodium chicken broth. I'm just tickled! Thanks for the info on your IBD experiences. I'm taking it all in. As we hopefully pass this initial crisis and Harley survives, I'll be rereading these posts and getting my IBD education while following vet's instructions. I'm glad for the internet! Thank you for letting me know that it will be a long time healing for Harley. Right now I am sort of micro analyzing every little move, behavior, sound, etc. Harley does. I doze off and hear him burp and I'm immediately up looking to see if he's vomited--which he hasn't. But, you know what I mean--I can't take my eyes off him right now, but it's because he's been so sick. But, I did want to pop in and post this because I'm so happy to see Harley excited to eat, and keep it down! A big YAY! Well, pill time and hopefully nap time for me so I'll be back later today. Thank you so much for helping me through this, everyone. You've all been such a huge help for me. And thank you for continued prayers and good thoughts for Hoohoo. hugs, Sher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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