4My2Greys Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) or not. For the past month Nadir's water consumption and peeing episodes have increased, which would indicate the beginnings of kidney failure. I finally was able to take him in Tuesday for bloodwork and urinalysis. The results are a little conflicting, but very concerning. His USpG was 1.026, which is on the low side, but from what my vet explained, not where you really start to get concerned. However, his creatinine was 2.4 and BUN was 36, which by IRIS guidelines would put him at Stage 3. He's also been experiencing a lot of weakness in his legs. Turns out his Potassium level is low, which could account for the weakness. I'm not sure if he is going into kidney failure, but I'm going to treat it as if he was. I'm taking him in Monday for diuresis to help flush the toxins out of his system and give his kidneys a chance to heal. Because of the danger of the thrombus he has becoming dislodged during this otherwise safe procedure he could use any good thoughts and white light you could send his way. Edited March 11, 2014 by 4My2Greys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 How low is his potassium?? Ghs tend to run on the low side. Don't forget to have his bp checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_rooly Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 TONS of white light coming Nadir's way. :hope Quote every day a tiny adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiggysMom Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Sending good thoughts for Nadir. Quote Wendy with Twiggy, fosterless while Twiggy's fighting the good fight, and Donnie & Aiden the kitties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NeylasMom Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Potassium typically runs high with CKD. I agree that the creat in particular is concerning, but I wonder about other explanations? Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Potassium typically runs high with CKD. I agree that the creat in particular is concerning, but I wonder about other explanations? Are you thinking phosphorous?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Sending good thoughts for Nadir. Quote Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenEveBaz Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Adding our good wishes for your boy. Quote Ellen, with brindle Milo and the blonde ballerina, Gelsey remembering Eve, Baz, Scout, Romie, Nutmeg, and Jeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grey_dreams Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Sending prayers for Nadir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Are you thinking phosphorous??Yup, sure was, thanks. I even second guessed myself and did a quick Google search to confirm. Total brainfart. Having cleared that up, what's Nadir's phosphorus level like? Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 Tracy, his potassium level was 3.8, which is within levels found in greyhounds. However, with the muscle weakness he has shown lately we are wondering if this could be a contributing factor. Any thoughts to other factors would be appreciated. Jen, his phosphorus level was 3.6, which along with the USgP of 1.026 compared with the high creatinine and BUN levels makes this all very confusing as to diagnosis. Does anyone explain what they Bilirubin-conjugated level is about. According to the reference range it should be between 0.0-0.1, his was at 0.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 for you and Nadir! Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The bili is usually higher with ghs-esp males. It can indicate hepatic, gall bladder changes but, as I just mentioned 95% of all ghs will see bili elevation. Can believe I'm going to say this (I'm in the camp that hypoT is over diagnosed in ghs) but, have you run a thyroid panel yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 Can believe I'm going to say this (I'm in the camp that hypoT is over diagnosed in ghs) but, have you run a thyroid panel yet? My vet and I actually discussed this Friday. I too am in the camp that it is overly diagnosed, but Nadir has presented with some unusual things. So maybe a low thyroid, his T4 was 0.6, that is normal for most greyhounds isn't normal for him. So a full thyroid panel has been ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Nadir isn't really normal! So you might really consider thyroid as an issue. Even if the panel comes back fine. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Tracy, his potassium level was 3.8, which is within levels found in greyhounds. However, with the muscle weakness he has shown lately we are wondering if this could be a contributing factor. Any thoughts to other factors would be appreciated. Jen, his phosphorus level was 3.6, which along with the USgP of 1.026 compared with the high creatinine and BUN levels makes this all very confusing as to diagnosis. Does anyone explain what they Bilirubin-conjugated level is about. According to the reference range it should be between 0.0-0.1, his was at 0.2. Hmm, well I was thinking if his phosphorous was high that might be further indication that there is a kidney issue, but the lack of elevation doesn't really rule it out. So basically I'm no help. I hope you are able to get it sorted out quickly though. A thyroid issue wouldn't be the worst thing - managed pretty easily with meds, so I'll hope for that. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carronstar Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Sending lots of prayers and good thoughts for Nadir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Cost him his life. And now I have to live with that Why God Oh why didn't I leave well enough alone. Edited March 11, 2014 by 4My2Greys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyPoopon Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I'm so incredibly sorry. Quote Standard Poodle Daisy (12/13) Missing Cora (RL Nevada 5/99-10/09), Piper (Cee Bar Easy 2/99-1/10), Tally (Thunder La La 9/99-3/10), Edie (Daring Reva 9/99-10/12), Dixie (Kiowa Secret Sue 11/01-1/13), Jessie (P's Real Time 11/98-3/13), token boy Graham (Zydeco Dancer 9/00-5/13), Cal (Back Already 12/99-11/13), Betsy (Back Kick Beth 11/98-12/13), Standard Poodles Minnie (1/99-1/14) + Perry (9/98-2/14), Annie (Do Marcia 9/03-10/14), Pink (Miss Pinky Baker 1/02-6/15), Poppy (Cmon Err Not 8/05-1/16), Kat (Jax Candy 5/05-5/17), Ivy (Jax Isis 10/07-7/21), Hildy (Braska Hildy 7/10-12/22), Opal (Jax Opal 7/08-4/23). Toodles (BL Toodles 7/09-4/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickiesmom Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 OMG no! Judy my heart is breaking for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeidisMum Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I'm so sorry. Quote Christine- Mum to Betty (Nitro Ugly Betty), Hannah (Rj Have I Told U) and missing Heidi (Sendahl Eve) 04/21/2005-06/19/2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Oh, Judy, I am so sorry. Quote Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveRoooooers Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I am soo sorry. Quote Old Dogs are the Best Dogs. Thank you, campers. Current enrollees: Punkin. AnnIE Oooh M Angels: Pal . Segugio. Sorella (TPGIT). LadyBug. Zeke-aroni. MiMi Sizzle Pants. Gracie. Seamie . (Foster)Sweet. Andy. PaddyALVIN!Mayhem. Bosco. Bruno. Dottie B. Trevor Double-Heart. Bea. Cletus, KLTO. Aiden 1-4. Upon reflection, our lives are often referenced in parts defined by the all-too-short lives of our dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante2zoe Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I am so very, very sorry. You didn't cost him his life, though. You gave him more life and the most love he could have wanted. I do understand how you feel and have walked in your shoes. I wasn't as aggressive with tooth brushing as I could have been and my girl arrested after a dental. I still beat myself up over that even though I was just trying to do what I felt was in her best interests. Big hugs. Quote Cindy with Miss Fancypants, Paris Bueller, Zeke, and Angus Dante (Dg's Boyd), Zoe (In a While), Brady (Devilish Effect), Goose (BG Shotgun), Maverick (BG ShoMe), Maggie (All Trades Jax), Sherman (LNB Herman Bad) and Indy (BYB whippet) forever in my heart The flame that burns the brightest, burns the fastest and leaves the biggest shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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