Hubcitypam Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) Just a month ago we were perfect and didn't need to come back for 2 months. We have not changed a thing but last 2 days his thirsty switch was back on. Now it is off the charts and I am a basket case. They have upped him to 19 units twice a day and he only weighs 27 pounds. I feel like this is a losing battle. Off to Canine Commissary to look at high fiber foods. That might help a little. Edited July 21, 2010 by Hubcitypam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Aw, crap. Wish I had some advice and I am totally ignorant. Sending prayers for you and your little guy. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey14me Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Quote Michelle...forever missing her girls, Holly 5/22/99-9/13/10 and Bailey 8/1/93-7/11/05 Religion is the smile on a dog...Edie Brickell Wag more, bark less :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhounds1234 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Sorry to hear that Poodle isn't doing well right now. Hope the diet change will bring his levels within a maintainable level. Quote Mom to BridgeGreys~~STORM 07/99-02/08/11, VICKI 12/15/00-01/12/11, BAY 02/00-10/25/10 and CASHEW 10/99-2/23/10 and cats ~~ IRISH, MUMBLES, MUFFIN, TJ, PUNKIN and Bridge cats SARAH (07/29/97-07/07/06) and BRIE (04/11/96-01/22/12) a very lively Whippet, OLIVIA and JAKE, the Iggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carronstar Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Adding lots of good thoughts, prayers and hugs for you and Poodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hubcitypam Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Is there a diabetic dog forum? I can't find one that seems to be current and I feel like I need major help now. They mentioned blindness and kidney failure on the horizon. I just crawled out of the big black hole and losing Poodle might just send me back there. In my heart I don't think we have too long together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamsmom Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 http://petswithdiabetes.yuku.com/ Try this one. I'll keep looking tho... http://www.k9diabetes.com/forum/ This one seems a bit more active but not much. Quote ~Beth, with a crazy mixed crew of misfits.~ Forever and Always missing and loving Steak, Carmen, Ivy, Isis, and Madi.Don't cry because it's ended, Smile because it happened.Before you judge me, try to keep an open mind, not everyone likes your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyPoopon Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I too wish I knew enough to help. I hope you are able to find something that works. Quote Standard Poodle Daisy (12/13) Missing Cora (RL Nevada 5/99-10/09), Piper (Cee Bar Easy 2/99-1/10), Tally (Thunder La La 9/99-3/10), Edie (Daring Reva 9/99-10/12), Dixie (Kiowa Secret Sue 11/01-1/13), Jessie (P's Real Time 11/98-3/13), token boy Graham (Zydeco Dancer 9/00-5/13), Cal (Back Already 12/99-11/13), Betsy (Back Kick Beth 11/98-12/13), Standard Poodles Minnie (1/99-1/14) + Perry (9/98-2/14), Annie (Do Marcia 9/03-10/14), Pink (Miss Pinky Baker 1/02-6/15), Poppy (Cmon Err Not 8/05-1/16), Kat (Jax Candy 5/05-5/17), Ivy (Jax Isis 10/07-7/21), Hildy (Braska Hildy 7/10-12/22), Opal (Jax Opal 7/08-4/23). Toodles (BL Toodles 7/09-4/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaisyDoodle Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Could it be the container of medicine you are using? Is it old, or a newly opened one? Can you give the next dose from a fresh bottle and see if Poodle has a better response? Quote DonnaMolly the Border Collie & Poquita the American-born Podenga Bridge Babies: Daisy (Positive Delta) 8/7/2000 - 4/6/2115, Agnes--angel Sage's baby (Regall Rosario) 11/12/01 - 12/18/13, Lucky the mix (Found, w 10 puppies 8/96-Bridge 7/28/11, app. age 16) & CoCo (Cosmo Comet) 12/28/89-5/4/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetdogs Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Could it be the container of medicine you are using? Is it old, or a newly opened one? Can you give the next dose from a fresh bottle and see if Poodle has a better response? Excellent idea - insulin should be kept cold but can often have warmed up & died before you get it. There's a yahoo group here: diabetespet Best wishes for Poodle. Quote Deirdre with Conor (Daring Pocobueno), Keeva (Kiowa Mimi Mona), & kittehs Gemma & robthomas. Our beloved angels Faolin & Liath, & kittehs Mona & Caesar. Remembering Bobby, Doc McCoy, & Chip McGrath. "He feeds you, pets you, adores you, collects your poop in a bag. There's only one explanation: you are a hairy little god." Nick Galifinakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 This is a fairly new bottle of Nuvolin -- maybe a week or so old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KennelMom Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Pam, I'm sorry you are having a hard time controlling Poodle's blood sugar. It became harder and harder for us to do it with Quilty. A low-carb raw diet helped a quite a bit. You may need to try another type of insulin. There are a couple types and some dogs respond better to one versus the other. My memory is really fuzzy...one of those things that the doc explained, but the insulin we had worked so I let all that info leak out of my brain. And some dogs can just be really hard to regulate. If we hadn't had to let Quilty go b/c of another issue, we were really going to have to learn to test her blood at home so we could adjust her insulin better throughout the day. They taught us how to do it, but she passed away before I ordered all the stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Thanks Heather. I was just talking to someone and they said with some of the stuff my diabetic neighbor has I could set up in home for less than $100. He is on Nuvolin, which is the generic of another human insulin N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KennelMom Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) you may want to try the non-generic version. Insulin, like thyroid meds, can have a difference generic to name brand. eta: if you use a human glucose monitor, you'll have to calibrate it with your vets. They do make doggy versions, but they run more expensive than the human versions. Edited July 15, 2010 by KennelMom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvAPuppy Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 I can't remember, do you test him with a home glucose meter or is this a vet-drawn glucose reading? If you're using a home meter and you've opened new strips, some of the older models of meter have to be coded to the strips or they won't read correctly. Since his thirst increased, this doesn't sound like the case but I wanted to throw it out there and hope it's the problem Quote Angie, Pewter, and Storm-puppy Forever missing Misty-Mousie (9/9/99 - 10/5/15)Fort Wayne, Indiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K9_Lady Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Sending positive thoughts for Poodle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhounds1234 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Oh crap! Hope the vet can get this all figured out quickly. Quote Mom to BridgeGreys~~STORM 07/99-02/08/11, VICKI 12/15/00-01/12/11, BAY 02/00-10/25/10 and CASHEW 10/99-2/23/10 and cats ~~ IRISH, MUMBLES, MUFFIN, TJ, PUNKIN and Bridge cats SARAH (07/29/97-07/07/06) and BRIE (04/11/96-01/22/12) a very lively Whippet, OLIVIA and JAKE, the Iggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 I can't remember, do you test him with a home glucose meter or is this a vet-drawn glucose reading? If you're using a home meter and you've opened new strips, some of the older models of meter have to be coded to the strips or they won't read correctly. Since his thirst increased, this doesn't sound like the case but I wanted to throw it out there and hope it's the problem The vet drew it this morning. Will ask vet in morning about changing insulin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greypuppyluv Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I'm sorry Pam. I hope you're able to get Poodle's levels under control. Quote Paula & her pups--Paneer (WW Outlook Ladd), Kira & Rhett (the whippets)Forever in my heart...Tinsel (Born's Bounder - 11/9/90-12/18/01), Piper, Chevy, Keno, Zuma, Little One, Phaelin & WinnieGreyhound Adoption Center ~ So Cal rep for Whippet Rescue And Placement For beautiful beaded collars, check out my Facebook page: The Swanky Hound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Poodle Pam Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Rita the podenco maneta, Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retiredracers Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Pam, I know that Phantom's situation is different than Poodle's since she has juvenile diabetes and it can be really hard to regulate BUT try not to panic. Phanny's glucose can be fine for months and then suddenly for no reason, like 2 weeks ago, she'll either drop really low or be really high. For the last 2 weeks, I've been working on getting her regulated again. It's crazy and somedays I want to just scream because it is so frustrating. BUT then I look at her and she looks at me with her big, innocent eyes and I know that this is just her way of keeping me on my toes so that I don't get too lax with her care! No, seriously, I know that diabetes isn't an easy disease and it can be regulated but you need to just keep an eye on them (as you did when you noticed that he was drinking more). Regulation is never set in stone and you'll need to keep an eye on symptoms and numbers. I do test her blood at home (by venipuncture) with the iPet glucometer. I didn't pay for the glucometer since someone graciously donated it to her when she was at GAA. However, at EntirelyPets/Amazon it retails for about $50. It looks like 25 strips cost about $10 through the same site. If you go to the website of the companythat makes the iPet there is an instructional video on how to use the meter. Good luck. My thoughts are with you and Poodle as you work through this new hurdle. Hugs. Quote Elphie, Kulee, Amanda, Harmony, Alex (hound mix), Phantom, Norbet, Willis (dsh), Autumn (Siamese) & Max (OSH) & mama rat, LaLa & baby Poppy! My bridge kids: Crooke & Mouse (always in my heart), Flake, Buzz, Snake, Prince (GSD), Justin & Gentry (Siamese), Belle (Aussie/Dalmatian mix), Rupert (amstaff) and Fred, Sirius, Severus, Albus, George, Hagrid, Hermione, Minerva, Marilyn, Wren, Molly, Luna, Tonks, Fleur, Ginny, Neville, Bill, Percy, Rose & Charlie (rats) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 It was 118 today! They said keep him on the food and keep him at 19 units for now. Recheck in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaisyDoodle Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Excellent news! I think I missed a chapter. Which food did you switch him to? Kisses to Poodle, DD Quote DonnaMolly the Border Collie & Poquita the American-born Podenga Bridge Babies: Daisy (Positive Delta) 8/7/2000 - 4/6/2115, Agnes--angel Sage's baby (Regall Rosario) 11/12/01 - 12/18/13, Lucky the mix (Found, w 10 puppies 8/96-Bridge 7/28/11, app. age 16) & CoCo (Cosmo Comet) 12/28/89-5/4/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Natural Balance Ultra reduced calorie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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