RaineysMom Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) we've had Zeke since the beginning of the year and although we've had a couple storms already (and he was fine???), today he is TERRIFIED now with the storms and thunder we are having today he was "off" when I got home from work and thought he just might not feel well, but now I know that it was the thunder while I was away that stressed him and was making him act weird. I've only had one other dog (a small Schipperke) that was thunder-phobic and nothing we did helped with him. what's helped/worked with others? I just hate this Edited April 17, 2013 by RaineysMom Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montgomery2524 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) www.thundershirt.com This product has worked very well on our two dogs who are thunderphobic. The change in them when wearing the coat is amazing. Having said that....it does not work on all dogs. Some dogs it seems to be the static in the air that makes them nervous and these coats don't do anything for that. I suggest getting one and trying it, you can always take back if it doesn't work. THey have videos on their website to show how the coats work. ETA - your response is also important. No babying them during the storm. Act like everything is just fine. Edited April 17, 2013 by montgomery2524 Quote Mom to Bella, Trinity, Cricket, DB, Dabber and Sidewinder As well as Gizmo, Miles, Pumba, Leo, Toby, Sugar, Smokey, Molly, Jasmine, Axel, Billy, Maggie-Mae, Duncan, Sam (MH King 2019), Bambi, Stella, Bay and "Gerty the cat" at the Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The Thundershirt was the only thing that helped here. Not perfect but a great improvement. I find it needs to be on before the first boomer is heard. I am finding that more and more often I don't need the Thundershirt, it's like she's learning that the thunder won't actually kill her. Unless it's a giant storm, then she loses it if I don't have the shirt on in time. For minor storms, she will come lie by me, ask for a bit of reassurance and then curl up. I don't hesitate to provide the reassurance but I also don't go overboard with it. Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greypop Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I second (third?) recommending the Thundershirt. With Charlotte, it helps, but is just part of a system that's resolved over time. We also give her Pro-Calm gel (www.k9granolafactory.com), close her in her crate, and put on music. When things are really bad, one of us ends up sleeping at the foot of the crate Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliered Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Nothing has worked on DaVid. I have tried it all. I am putting the thunder shirt on the next auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The Thundershirt has worked for many, and it's worth a shot. Rescue Remedy and other herbal calming formulas, DAP diffusers and collars, desensization CD's and training, and melatonin are all things you can try. If he needs prescription help, you will need a short-term, anti-anxiety medication like valium or xanax. These also need to be given BEFORE he becomes anxious about the storm, so timing is crucial. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyroo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 We used Rescue Remedy with Rusty. It helped some, but didn't take all the anxiety away. Quote Jodie D (hope to have another grey name her soon) Missing my Bridge Babies: Rusty (Cut a Rusty) 10/18/95-06/09/09 Solo (Tali Solo Nino) 01/10/98-03/25/10 Franny (Frohmader) 02/28/04-08/31/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascalsmom Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 My Ruby was afraid of storms too. She would go to the basement, which was finished and had cozy dog beds--but she'd usually head for my son's old bedroom down there, which was truly the quietest spot. We kept a bed in there for her; it was her 'safe spot'. Quote Phoebe (Belle's Sweetpea) adopted 9/2/13. Jack (BTR Captain Jack) 9/28/05--11/2/12Always missing Buddy, Ruby, and Rascal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest june Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Melatonin works for some and did work for mine until I wasn't home to give it to her during a really bad storm. Now we're doing behavior therapy with a very small dose of valium. Seems to be getting better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juliemac Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hey Kim -- I have a Thundershirt that I can loan you to try (XL), have some melatonin, Rescue Remedy, and as well as a few other herbal options if you'd like to see what will work on Zeke. Feel free to give me a call at 630.567.0506 and I'll meet you somewhere. Julie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyTzu Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I second the ThunderShirt!! And follow their "training" instructions!! Just buying the TS and putting it on the dog when the next thunderstorm happens will not work. The owners need to work with the TS and the dog during non-stressful times for positive results. Also the dosage for melatonin in our house is 10 mg. although it did little to alleviate thunder-phobia for our two freak dogs. But it helped grow butt hair! :rofl Quote Wendy and The Whole Wherd. American by birth, Southern by choice. "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!" ****OxyFresh Vendor ID is 180672239.**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 We've had great success with the Storm Defender Cape for Murray. Just putting the cape on him seems to help him settle down during the storm. That cape has a money back guarantee, so we felt like we had nothing to lose in purchasing it. I do not ignore him during a storm. I hold him and rock him like a baby during a storm while he's wearing the cape. Murray used to shake and pant so badly that I thought he'd give himself a heart attack. It was awful to watch. I got down on the floor and rocked him. That helped him immediately. Things have really improved for him over time. Hoping the same will be true for Zeke. Quote Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'm with Tricia. If my dog is upset, I'm going to comfort him -- just like I would with a scared kid. "There, there, honey, it's ok, jump into bed with Mommy now." We give Joe Xanax when a storm is coming, and it helps a lot, but being near us helps more. Storms early in the season are more stressful than later ones for him. Each year, we can drug less and just cuddle eventually. I don't have a Thundershirt -- but I'm thinking about it for days it might storm if I can't be with him. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Thundershirt didn't work for us... I wish it did. We give Henry Xanax for really bad thunderstorms and fireworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Calm Spirit Xanax also if needed Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WhiteWave Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Xanax is about the only thing that works for Ronon. Melatonin and L-theanine seems to help if it is a mild storm, but bad storms it doesn't. Thundershirt did nothing for Ronon. I'm grateful my other dogs don't care. Joey will run in around in the yard and play in the middle of a storm. I had to go out and drag him back inside! Ronon won't go outside if a storm is coming, he hears fireworks or gun shots. He is very noise phobic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Hey Kim -- I have a Thundershirt that I can loan you to try (XL), have some melatonin, Rescue Remedy, and as well as a few other herbal options if you'd like to see what will work on Zeke. Feel free to give me a call at 630.567.0506 and I'll meet you somewhere. Julie that would be great! not sure if he's an XL but it's worth a shot. Thank you!!! Bruce can pick up RR at Whole Foods but trying the melatonin might help too thankfully the storms have stopped for now -- he was SUPER stressed all night, Bruce actually took him down to the living room with him to sleep, he was so bad. Bruce said he didn't sleep all night. He was panting SO fast -- like 200 breaths per minute! It was horrible. It finally stopped thundering around 8:15am -- and of course, we fed at 5:15 and JUST as he was out and going to poop, a clap comes and forget it. I left for work but got a call from my supervisor the schools were closed so I headed back home and was able to stay with him all day. He was SO tired. thanks to all for the suggestions! we'll start with this and maybe try other stuff if needed. We used a sedative (not sure now what it was) with our little Schipperke but it's so hard, you have to KNOW a storm is coming. If it hits while we're at work, it's no good. I wish there was something you could give daily just in case. Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The only thing that worked for my angel Dusty was if I gently and calmly lifted her up and placed her in her crate, locking her in. She just loved her crate - it was her safe zone - but she wouldn't go in if it was threatening to storm. Once she was in, though, she calmed down and was able to slow her panting to a controlled, healthy pace. We always called her our early storm-warning system - a storm could be miles off, no audible thunder and maybe only a couple clouds in the sky, but if there was a storm anywhere nearby, she was sure to let us know by standing in the center of the room, panting heavily. Rescue remedy did nothing, and I hadn't heard of thundershirts before, so I tried locking her in her crate so she could calm down and it worked. Did I mention that she LOVED her crate? She passed two years ago, but whenever it thunders I still have this moment where I expect her to be there, panting and staring at me. Quote Mom of bridge babies Regis and Dusty. Wrote a book about shelter dogs! I sell things on Etsy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inugrey Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It's funny how new dogs make experienced owners learn new things. I was in your situation not too long ago. All the other dogs who had gone through my house didn't even blink when the heavens crashed. Then I added Zoe and now I know a storm is a comin' before it hits. We've definitely become obsessive about storm tracking. We use a Thundershirt and like Wendy said it only works if you follow the training instructions. If I miss a warning I've definitely snuggle my girl to help ease the stress. It's very hard to watch them stress out so bad Quote Colleen with Covey (Admirals Cove) and Rally (greyhound puppy)Missing my beloved boy INU (CJ Whistlindixie) my sweetest princess SALEM (CJ Little Dixie) and my baby girl ZOE (LR's Tara) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 There's a difference between "coddle" and "reassure." If my dog is stressed and scared, I'm certainly not going to leave them entirely alone to deal with whatever it is. I'm not going to baby talk and fawn all over them, but I'm also not going to ignore their distress. Remaining calm is key. Speak in a low, pleasant voice to them. Physical touch if the dog accepts it (some do and some don't when they are anxious). Make them a quiet spot in the bathroom or bedroom or closet or crate where they can remain for as long as it takes and feel safe there. Dogs can tell the difference between reinforcing a negative behavior and comfort. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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