Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 You guys have to be sick of hearing about Kebo by now but posting helps keep me sane by putting the worry and anxiety into words. He had his mouth examined today - the mucosal flap seems to have healed and there is no sign of infection. The dentist called my vet's practice this Monday and offered to pay for any x-rays they did today. They did them and have decided to do them no charge as a professional courtesy to him. Pretty classy on both sides I have to say. I think I will drop a little note in the mail to the dentist. He was consulted to do a procedure, explained the risks/benefits/complications to me, and explained that he might leave the roots and why. I consented for him to do it. There was a complication but it was one of the possible complications we discussed and although it caused a great deal of chatter amongst clinicians he stood behind his choices. He was faced with having to make a decision based on Kebo's anatomy and the risk vs the benefit of leaving the roots. I appreciate that he exercised his professional judgement in the best interest of Kebo's health and safety and whether I agree or disagree, you can't ask for more than that from any healthcare provider. Hopefully this is the last chapter in this story. The new story is these two little masses that my vet found last week. One was on the inside of his left knee - it was cystic and fibrotic and suspicious looking. She thinks she got it all out. The other was wrapped around his semimembranosus muscle (one of the hamstrings) and very friable. She excised as much of it as she could. Neither looked like the hemangioperiocytoma that he had in his left front wrist. She is more worried about a sarcoma. For now, it is pain medication, TLC, and waiting for histopathology. Lord help me until then. She thinks it will be okay for him to travel to GIG next weekend so if anyone is there, feel free to come over and meet my sweet fella and give him some lovin'. Will post again when there is news. I go pick him up in an hour or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies_Dad Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Good thoughts for Kebo. Give him some special hugs from me please. Quote Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greytpups Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Hope this isn't anything serious. We're going to GIG and I sure hope we get to meet Kebo. Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvEarsies Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hugs and kisses to Kebo. Keeping you both in my good thoughts Quote Bernadette with Jak, Horizon, Kota, Barnaby, Madison, Earl, Tiggy, Finney, Tommy, Woody, Tyler and Lincoln all at the bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Sending good thoughts for your sweet boy. Quote Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Never "sick of Kebo updates"! I'm glad his surgery is over and his oral issues are resolving-thank goodness. Fingers crossed for a positive path report. I'm not attending gig but, maybe I'll see Kebo at ghs rock???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HoundHeavenAZ Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Best wishes for a good outcome and recovery. This must be very stressful for you. Quote Jody, Leah & JimmieYou left us much, much too soon Lima & Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Definitely never tire of updates or if you need it someone to worry along with you. Please give Kebo some lovin' from me. I'll be hoping for good news on the path report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Thanks everyone. He is so pitiful. Because one of the masses was at a muscle he is really sore. He just stands there like "why does it hurt when I move?" We have tramadol and carprofen and I'm to call the vet tomorrow for gabapentin if his pain doesn't seem controlled. He is tolerating cold compresses as well so we do that every couple of hours. On the bright side, we have the go-ahead to get soft toys back out so purple bear is on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Hopefully, the purple bear will work his magic :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FawnFan Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Sending good wishes and lots of healing thoughts Kebo's way. Have safe travels to GIG next weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Rough night last night but doing much better today. I slept downstairs on the couch so he wouldn't be alone. He just couldn't get comfortable and at some point it escalated to all-out panic. I remember the surgery resident at NC State telling me he did something similar the first night after his maxillectomy. They treated him with trazodone which we keep on hand now for car trips. Gave him one along with a tramadol and he finally settled down. Glad I had the day off today to sleep in a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetdogs Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Glad to hear he settled. Anesthesia really does a number on some of them. Quote Deirdre with Conor (Daring Pocobueno), Keeva (Kiowa Mimi Mona), & kittehs Gemma & robthomas. Our beloved angels Faolin & Liath, & kittehs Mona & Caesar. Remembering Bobby, Doc McCoy, & Chip McGrath. "He feeds you, pets you, adores you, collects your poop in a bag. There's only one explanation: you are a hairy little god." Nick Galifinakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Well its cancer. Most likely fibrosarcoma although the path report is a little vague. Will send tissue to Ohio State and to NC State for opinions. Recommended treatment if it is fibrosarcoma is limb amputation. If the second/third opinions confirm this I think it is time to stop. He greeted me at the door tonight with his purple bear - the first time since his dental extractions back in February. I'm not sure I can do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndtime Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I am sorry to read this diagnosis. Just wishing you both the best outcome. Quote Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sweetdogs Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Hang in there until you hear from OSU. I'm glad he's feeling well. Quote Deirdre with Conor (Daring Pocobueno), Keeva (Kiowa Mimi Mona), & kittehs Gemma & robthomas. Our beloved angels Faolin & Liath, & kittehs Mona & Caesar. Remembering Bobby, Doc McCoy, & Chip McGrath. "He feeds you, pets you, adores you, collects your poop in a bag. There's only one explanation: you are a hairy little god." Nick Galifinakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverhound Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Damn! That just pisses me off. The two of you have been through so much. I'm sorry. Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I understand you feel defeated but, please wait until you hear back from da pros. I do know of a golden that had fibro incompletely resected-it was located in the stifle region-they opted for radiation and their boy sailed through it--my point is there are options besides amp. I'm glad he's feeling better-purple bears always help :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Thanks TB Hounds - Just got an email from my vet. She got the following response from the pathologist who dictated the report. It offers a glimmer of hope. She is working on the arrangements to have tissue sent ASAP. I am definitely waiting for the pros before making any definitive decisions. I am open to alternative therapies just very wary of amputation. This appears to be a low-grade sarcoma. I suspect fibrosarcoma but the cells are somewhat densely associated and mitoses are not seen and thus it does not seem particularly proliferative but because similar cells are in both locations, it gives me concern. I mention the differentials because of the density of the cells and because the cellular arrangement and structure of cells is not a typical fibrosarcoma. I was suspecting possibly that the mass formed from smooth muscle cells of a vessels or perhaps glomus cells (which are in the distal limbs; however, the cells in this mass are likely too elongate for a glomus tumor). I could have mentioned special stains to better determine the cellular origin of the mass, but I am not certain that it would be helpful. I would suggest smooth muscle cell actin to rule out a leiomyoma or leiomyosarcoma. I hope that this is helpful. It simply has an atypical morphology in my experience and difficult for me to classify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) Anxious to see what Dr Couto and the Osu pathologist's say. Fingers crossed. Oh how these ghs can age us but, how we love them so. Kebo has a greyt person! Forgot to ask--I'm assuming they got incomplete margins??? Edited April 23, 2013 by tbhounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) Anxious to see what Dr Couto and the Osu pathologist's say. Fingers crossed. Oh how these ghs can age us but, how we love them so. Kebo has a greyt person! Forgot to ask--I'm assuming they got incomplete margins??? Yes, incomplete margins for both masses. One was at the proximal tibia and didn't have much tissue around it to begin with and the other was very friable and around a muscle belly. Wonder if the intralesional 5 FU would work here as well? Right now I'm just thinking plain 'ol FU if you know what I mean Edited April 23, 2013 by greytkidsmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 If it's a soft tissue sarcoma, I would definitely consider 5-FU or radiation before amputation. Dr. Couto has had very good results with 5-FU in situations like this, and he said if it was his own dog, he'd use 5-FU instead of radiation. Unfortunately, his 5-FU data isn't published, and most oncologists are more familiar with radiation therapy which is supported by the published studies. I just recently corresponded with him about this since I'm facing a similar situation with my whippet Ollie. Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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