RaineysMom Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 we're still having horrible D with Zeke -- he's going to get a dose of Drontal Plus this weekend if it's not better, then more Panacur (he has hooks) next week according to the vet. However, I am wondering if the Canidae (all life stages one) is just not the right food for him. Nube did great on it, Larry does ok (has some soft poops but nothing like Zeke's D) -- but I searched here for "diarrhea" and so many people swear by Iams "green bag" but I don't know which actual formula that is? TIA! Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clawsandpaws Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 http://iams.com/dog-food/iams-proactive-health-adult-chunks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walliered Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 It has cleared up my hounds. I messed up and got the very small bits, but it is OK with both of mine. Next time I will buy the chunks. I have tried feeding the very expensive to the very cheap dog food. I have wised up and feed raw and Iams. No more changing dog foods. I am not a dog food snob anymore..LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 thanks! we don't know if the D is from the hookworms, his diet, or what. Right now he's just getting 1/2 cup of the Canidae All Life (PAWS) and the rest is brown rice, oatmeal, pumpkin and cooked beef and it's just short of explosive. The vet is putting him on 5 days longer of Flagyl and added Flori - something (probiotic). He's lost a LOT of weight. Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndtime Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Magic!! The ingredients are magic. I was a dog food snob, too. A friend attended a pet nutrition seminar and the vet had good things to say about IAMS. Quote Irene Ullmann w/Flying Odin and Mama Mia in Lower Delaware Angels Brandy, John E, American Idol, Paul, Fuzzy and Shine Handcrafted Greyhound and Custom Clocks http://www.houndtime.com Zoom Doggies-Racing Coats for Racing Greyhounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time4ANap Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) Since he has hooks and i think you previously said he was getting Panacur and Flagyl, his stomach is very torn up from the worms. We have been dealing with similar issues with Rocket since Nov / Dec timeframe. We tried the green bag and it only worked for a few days before he was back to having diarrhea. I think his stomach was just too inflamed from worms to handle much food. After the Panacur treatment, we switched him to smaller feedings 4 times per day instead of regular feedings two times a day, and NO TREATS were given. If he needed a treat, he got a few pieces of the same kibble we were feeding him for dinner. It took about a week and a half, but he went back to having rock solid poop. I In the past when we've had to do chicken and rice or similar diets for him, we also stretch that out to 4 smaller feedings. It seems to work much better than feeding him only 2 times a day. I think when the stomach is inflamed like that, 2 feedings is just too much food to process without much of it becoming liquid. We spaced out his feeding times to 8 AM, Noon, 5 PM, and right before bed between 9 and 10 PM. He seemed to get better faster that way, and we were able to go back to his original kibble with no problem whatsoever. The late feeding also had the benefit of not having him wake up in the middle of the night with stomach squeals. Edited February 1, 2013 by Time4ANap Quote Camp Broodie. The current home of Mark Kay Mark Jack and Gracie Kiowa Safe Joan. Always missing my boy Rocket Hi Noon Rocket, Allie Phoenix Dynamite, Kate Miss Kate, Starz Under Da Starz, Petunia MW Neptunia, Diva Astar Dashindiva, and LaVida I've Got Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clawsandpaws Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 thanks! we don't know if the D is from the hookworms, his diet, or what. Right now he's just getting 1/2 cup of the Canidae All Life (PAWS) and the rest is brown rice, oatmeal, pumpkin and cooked beef and it's just short of explosive. The vet is putting him on 5 days longer of Flagyl and added Flori - something (probiotic). He's lost a LOT of weight. Forti Flora? Dudley also had terrible D. The Forti Flora seemed to clear it up over night, and ever since we switched to the IAMS we have not had to use the forti flora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Forti Flora? Dudley also had terrible D. The Forti Flora seemed to clear it up over night, and ever since we switched to the IAMS we have not had to use the forti flora that's the stuff smells pretty good, too, I thought. I just feel so bad for him, he's gotten SO skinny (and Larry looks like he's put on 5 lbs! He's a porker) and I just want him better. Hopefully things will improve, and quickly. Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I'm a self-admitted food snob turned IAMS believer. We use the large breed green bag just because the pieces are larger. But we love it. I'd never go back. Beet pulp magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) If you like the mini-chunks, don't feel you have to use the large breed just because greyhounds are... well... large. Their mouths don't match their body size anyway. Maybe in volume with some dogs! Summer doesn't really care for big chunks of stuff so she gets the mini-chunks since she prefers it. Edited February 1, 2013 by OwnedBySummer Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) Might try ratcheting his food back to just overcooked (extra water) white rice and beef for 4-5 days and see if things improve. Once his innards feel better, you'll have more luck choosing a good kibble for him. ETA: White rice rather than brown because it just goes through a dog better. I know some folks like oatmeal, too, but it's never produced anything here but vomiting and/or diarrhea. YMMV. Edited February 1, 2013 by Batmom Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) Might try ratcheting his food back to just overcooked (extra water) white rice and beef for 4-5 days and see if things improve. Once his innards feel better, you'll have more luck choosing a good kibble for him. ETA: White rice rather than brown because it just goes through a dog better. I know some folks like oatmeal, too, but it's never produced anything here but vomiting and/or diarrhea. YMMV. I actually did try that first but didn't see a difference, and the vet wants to give the kibble since he's been on not-as-nutritious foods (just starches) for over 2 weeks now and he's lost so much weight. ah, ok I thought brown would be better. Figures, I bought 4 2 lb bags of it since it was on sale last weekend I don't know if the oatmeal is making it worse or not. Edited February 1, 2013 by RaineysMom Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Gotta go with your & vet's gut (ha ha ha) but FWIW, I've had adult dogs on bland diets for a couple of months. As long as they get enough calories and protein, the rest of the nutrition doesn't matter so much. Couple months is still short term. Puppies you'd need to be more careful. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newgreymom Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 FortiFlora is the best!! Dylan has had no gas (and it was horrible)or diarrhea since we started him on it a couple of weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2greys2cats Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 (edited) we're still having horrible D with Zeke -- he's going to get a dose of Drontal Plus this weekend if it's not better, then more Panacur (he has hooks) next week according to the vet. However, I am wondering if the Canidae (all life stages one) is just not the right food for him. Nube did great on it, Larry does ok (has some soft poops but nothing like Zeke's D) -- but I searched here for "diarrhea" and so many people swear by Iams "green bag" but I don't know which actual formula that is? TIA! Iams green bag is not that great of a food honestly. And that's my opinion, and other people will have their opinion. I would try a limited ingredient diet. Possibly natural balance? I also swear by the Honest Kitchen "Perfect Form" powder. Many dogs don't handle probiotics very well or digestive enzymes. My two dogs are examples of that. Perfect form is a natural herbal supplement that calms the digestive tract and helps firm up poop. Edited February 2, 2013 by 2greys2cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2greys2cats Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 thanks! we don't know if the D is from the hookworms, his diet, or what. Right now he's just getting 1/2 cup of the Canidae All Life (PAWS) and the rest is brown rice, oatmeal, pumpkin and cooked beef and it's just short of explosive. The vet is putting him on 5 days longer of Flagyl and added Flori - something (probiotic). He's lost a LOT of weight. Pumpkin gives my dogs explosive diarrhea as well. I would try limiting his ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawthorn Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 ah, ok I thought brown would be better. Figures, I bought 4 2 lb bags of it since it was on sale last weekend You can still use the brown rice as long as you overcook it and then put it through a blender until it's smooth - they can digest it that way . Quote When a relationship of love is disrupted, the relationship does not cease. The love continues; therefore, the relationship continues. The work of grief is to reconcile and redeem life to a different love relationship. ~ W Scott Lineberry Always Greyhounds Home Boarding and Greyhounds With Love House Sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest june Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I love when the "best food" conversations get going. I've tried several foods and keep going back to Iams. It is what works best for my dogs. Others have found other brands that work for their pups. I believe every dog has a food that works best for them. Iams does help pups who have loose stools; all kinds of posts about it on here. You will have to make the decision that is best for you pup. I sure hope he gets feeling better soon. It is so hard to watch them loose weight or be sick. Sending good thoughts that you find something that will help soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatterseaBrindl Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The best food for your dog is the food that maintains his weight and prevents the big D. The best food for your dog is not necessarily the food that works for my dog. Quote Nancy...Mom to Sid (Peteles Tiger), Kibo (112 Carlota Galgos) and Joshi. Missing Casey, Gomer, Mona, Penelope, BillieJean, Bandit, Nixon (Starz Sammie), Ruby (Watch Me Dash) Nigel (Nigel), and especially little Mario, waiting at the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Iams green bag is not that great of a food honestly. For being 'not that great of a food' my guys have formed stools, no gas, great teeth, and shiny coats on IAMS. And that's much more than I can say for the handful of other premium/limited ingredient/organic/grain free foods we tried beforehand. An overall picture of health means more than an ingredient list, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoundWorks Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 We tried everything from limited ingredient dry kibble to richer dehydrated food and nothing worked for us until we tried IAMs green bag. I'll get the large kibble or small kibble and don't have issues with either. It's what worked for our dogs and it's better on the pockets too (just an added plus!). I had fought trying it because I thought from everything I read that it was a "bad" dog food, but it honestly keeps our dogs happy and healthy which is all that matters to us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FinnsMom Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Could he have IBS? My guy had hooks as well and the 2 rounds of meds the vet gave him, 10 days apart, got rid of them. My guy is one that did not do well on the green bag, his poops were soft-serve and the gas was just too horrendous to continue, but I think the main reason for that is the green bag, if I remember, is chicken based, and he doesn't do well with chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The discussion on food came up at Mountain Hounds. The grey-savvy vet said Iams green bag was perfectly fine. He was not a big fan of the fancier stuff. I think that was more because of the hype than the food's content. I feed Grace, guilt free, the Iams green bag small kibble. Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Rita the podenco maneta, Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlosMomma Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Iams in the green bag solved our 'runs' and has also helped their coat & skin. I tried every expensive brand previously with no success. I decided to try it based on the advice from GT. We have all been happy since. Iams is also easier on the pocketbook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheLast13 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 within 2 days, Iams made a huge difference in our boy too. a spoonful of greek yogurt and pumpkin. He has great BMs every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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