LennysMom Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) Update 12/3- I wanted to let those of you who have prayed and given advise for my boy that it turns out he does in fact have cancer - gastric sarcoma. There is also a spot on his liver. It isn't his regular vets fault that it was missed when we first biopsied 4 months ago. After much discussion and soul searching we are opting to make him as comfortable as possible until he is ready. Surgery was an option but the best the oncologist could tell us is possibly 8-12 months and that's it. Given his current state of health it would be a painful time for him and there were concerns about his recovery. If we did the surgery it would be for me and not for him. I wanted to thank everyone for their prayers. He is comfortable right now and his vet who loves him will come out to the house when it's time. I'm trying to keep it together for him and enjoy his time with us, but I am heartbroken. For a long time it was just he and I. He has been there with me through so much. Some of you may remember my boy was having a very rough time with IBD issues. We have tried everything including very helpful suggestions from caring people here The vet and I decided it was to the point where predisone was called for, since diet changes were not helping. Well, now it appears nothing is helping. We've been to the holistic vet also who, when she looked at his work up, agreed that predisone had been the correct step and started working with us to get everything on track to get him off. However nothing works, he'll have a few good weeks and then a huge set back which leaves him thinner then before. My handsome boy is just wasting away. Everyone who sees us walking must want to take him away, and I don't blame them, he looks like a skeleton. On his good weeks I can see the fight in him to get better and he gains some weight. We moved in with my DH and his 2 girls (dogs, not kids) and Lenny seemed to blossom for a few weeks. Even though he's a grumpy old man I think he really loves the girls. But now its a bad week - the worst he's been through - and I feel so selfish putting him through this. I can tell he's miserable but then I think about the good week and how he seems to have so much time left. Our holistic vet said she had some other things to try but at what point am I putting him through more than I should? When am I not putting him first? I made a promise to him that I would be brave enough to let him go when it was the right time and now I'm not sure I can. I told DH that I would speak with both vets and put everything we had into this week and see where we are. DH is having a very hard time with it too, but is leaving any decisions to me. I just needed to get this out somewhere where I've been supported before. Thanks so much for reading Edited December 4, 2007 by LennysMom Quote Kris & Lenny (B L Lessie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kelong Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Lenny we are thinking of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Lenny is in my prayers Last year Spud was down to about 61ish pounds. His race weight was 75lbs. I don't know if it's an option, but we started with a raw diet and Spud is happy and healthy now but I know it doesn't work for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Sending our many prayers for Lenny~gentle hugs. Quote Patti-Mommy of Lady Sophia 7-28-92 - 8-3-04... LaceyLaine 8-2-94-12-5-07... Flash Gordon 7-14-99 - 8-29-09... BrookLynne...Pavé Maria... and 18 Bridge Kids. WATCHING OVER US~SOPHIA~QUEENIE~LACEY LAINE~ CODY ANGELO~FLASH GORDON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest luckydog Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 As far as the Decision goes, I had to rely on my vet to gently shake me by my shoulders (verbally, not literally) and point out that Lucky had reached the point of no return. I too was selfish and wanted more time, but I am a firm believer in Better a Day Too Soon Than a Day Too Late, so we made arrangements for euthanasia the next morning. Lucky had no quality of life--while he still wagged his tail and snugged close to me, he hadn't had a decent meal in weeks and his kidney numbers were getting worse. I felt as if my pain had to be secondary to the relief I was giving to Lucky from the pain his body must have been giving him. I still feel that way. Our animals rely upon us for their very life, and we must keep their needs forefront in this matter. I am sorry for you and Lenny. Ask your vet for his/her honest opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest argolola Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Prayers for sweet Lenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighsayer Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Look at your dog. Talk with your vets and look at your dog again. I hope there is something that they can come up with to make his life better. It is sooo hard to make the decision. Let your vets help you. Hugs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinggreysslp Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Clay needed more than prednisolone to help control his IBD. He also needed a combination of azathioprine (an immunosupressant), metronidizole, and a novel single protein dog food (happened to be prescription science diet). This combination, which Dr Couto at Ohio State helped us formulate, helped Clay extend his life by an extra year. There is an excellent yahoo support group for people who have dogs with IBD. It was a life saver for us. Quote Cosmo (Fuzz Face Cosmos), Holmes (He's a Dream), Boomer (USS Baby Boomer), Ella and missing our angels Clay (Red Clay), Train (Nite Train), Trip (Bock's Teddy Bear),Larry (Bohemian Frigid) and Jimmy (Bohemian Raw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynthia Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 No advice really. I just wanted to say I know how you feel, although none of my dogs have IBD (yet.) I do keep notes for each of my medically challenged dogs so that I don't imagine the good days. I can look back and see they weren't very long ago. Or not. Bad days and bad weeks seem much longer when you're going through them. I never hesitiate to call my vets. The neuro even has a special line (press #4) to leave an update. (I must drive my dog's vets crazy, but I figure I'm also giving them a banner year for revenue. One of my dogs is on prednisone forever I think. I've come to grips with that. And of course none us want to do that, but quality of life is more important than a long (or short) uncomfortable life. I go for comfort first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remolacha Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I am lucky that once Fletcher's IBD was under control, we have managed to keep it that way with diet (raw food) and metronidizole for flare-ups, but I know some of what you are going through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vahoundlover Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Sending many prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PiagetsMom Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Thinking of you and Lenny and wishing you wisdom, courage and strength during this difficult time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tenderhearts Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 :hope :hope :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Prayers and thoughts of comfort are with you LennysMom..this must be very hard for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snowberry Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 So sorry for you and Lenny Here's hoping this week sees an improvement for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevd Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Sending good wishes for little Lenny Quote Deerhounds Darcy, Duffy, Grace & Wellington, Mutts Sprout & Buddy, Lurchers Ned & Jake plus Ella the Westie + cats. Remembering Del, Jessie, Maddison, Flo, Sally, Stanley, Wallace, Radar, Mokka, Oki cat, Tetley, Poppy & Striker. Please visit our web store at http://www.dogsndubs.com for our own range of Greyhound related clothing for humans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamngrey Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 prayers for you both Quote Cassie: Pikes Clara Bell Swoop: My Man Swoop BRIDGE ANGELS Psi:WD'S Aleford 3/17/00-4/25/10 Snowman: Gable Snowman 1/9/96-2/14/08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennysMom Posted October 31, 2007 Author Share Posted October 31, 2007 Thank you so much for the prayers and comfort. He did eat a little last night and this morning and kept it down so without getting excited at least I know he's getting his appetite back. I am getting a lot of good advise here and will be talking to his vets and others to see what other options we have and what they mean for Lenny. So long as the vets agree that it is worth the effort and it wont make him worse we'll try anything. Also, thank you for for sharing your stories, they are a comfort. Luckydog, your words mean a lot, thank you Quote Kris & Lenny (B L Lessie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandm Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 A few years ago, I lost my most favorite greyhound to complications of tick disease. One of the complications was a malfunctioning digestive system. The poor dog had no appetite, and when she did eat, the result was diarrhea. She started to get very thin and I knew if we didn't get the TBD figured out soon, we would lose her to starvation -- a miserable way to go. And so I decided that if she hit a predetermined weight, I would PTS, assuming there were no improvements on the horizon. The crucial thing was determining the weight. Our regular vet said she was unable to do it. Even though she had greyhound experience, she said she saw too many other breeds in her practice to give her an expert eye. I did not ask the E-vets treating the dog, I would not have felt confident in their decision. And so I asked someone who had worked with greyhounds for decades, both in racing and adoption, to give me a number. It was emotionally very difficult for her to do this for me, but she stepped up to the plate and gave me a number. The dog died of hemmorage about 2 lbs over her PTS weight. It's not a happy story, but it is how a dealt with a difficult decision during an emotional time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LolasMom Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 :hope Sending prayers to you and Lenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 No good advice from me, but you might PM romansperson if you haven't already. She's dealt with IBD. Sending hugs. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Rita the podenco maneta, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennysMom Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Update in the first post Quote Kris & Lenny (B L Lessie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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