Guest LittleGreys Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Munchie had bloodwork and xrays done on Friday morning. What is up with this bruising? I know sometimes they bruise a little from the blood draw, but I have drawn blood from her before and not experienced anything like this! I will be emailing these pics to her vet tomorrow just to double check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Check her gums. Are they pale? If so she probably needs the vet. Is be worried shes having a clothing issue and the blogs is just settling in a low part of her body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 That reminds me of what happened to Nadir when I took him to Auburn for an MRI. If I remember correctly I was told they hit and burst a blood vessel during the draw and hence the huge bruise that developed. I hope it's something as simple as that in Munchies case and not a further indication of bad things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happygrey Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Could the bruising be from being restrained while having the work done? Was she sedated? Perhaps she struggled a bit? Does she typically bruise easily? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gomiesmom Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 My Big guy, Gomer ( white fur w/ bright pink skin) had bad brusiing once like that ( in his leg) from a blood draw, prior to a dental. Blood was pooling in his leg,like a hematoma & the bruising kept increasing. I ended up going to the E-vet, but to no avail. (they were convinced he had Von Wildebrands disease or a TBD & did nothing but a bunch or tests, none concluded anything wrong---). Anyway, it turned out they just used too big a needle for his delicate high-ness, I guess. With some TLC it went down. it took about a week for it to completely go away. We now use the smallest needle possible to get the blood ( they call it a cat needle) and we wrap it tight, tight for about 15 mins afterward. It has not happened again to that extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It can happen just from a blood draw. If it hasn't before, you do want to check the platelet count etc. but usually nothing to worry about as long as it isn't continuing to spread, swell, etc. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowjay Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 No advice but I hope it's nothing serious for the little munchkin. Quote Cody: (11/19/2000 - 1/7/2013): [CollateralDamage #92569] Cody's DogsterPretty: (11/1/1994 - 1/27/2007): [Bee's Prettyside #43811] Pretty's DogsterPinky: (4/25/2003 - 3/17/2014): [Wagtail Resolve #19753]Click here to learn how to find your hounds racing name, pedigree and racing history! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I hope it's nothing serious. Summer had blood drawn from her jugular the other week and the next day, she had a palm sized bruise on her throat. The vet called me on that next day with a test result and I discussed it with her -- as long as it didn't grow or become bulgy (like blood was pooling), she wasn't concerned. And I confirmed to the vet that Summer's gums were healthy & pink and there were no behavior changes. Edited February 26, 2012 by OwnedBySummer Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaisyDoodle Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I'd call Dr. Jim's and ask what they think. There is someone there 24/7, and he is often there checking on one "child" or another. Do you know the location of the blood draw, was it on the neck? Quote DonnaMolly the Border Collie & Poquita the American-born Podenga Bridge Babies: Daisy (Positive Delta) 8/7/2000 - 4/6/2115, Agnes--angel Sage's baby (Regall Rosario) 11/12/01 - 12/18/13, Lucky the mix (Found, w 10 puppies 8/96-Bridge 7/28/11, app. age 16) & CoCo (Cosmo Comet) 12/28/89-5/4/04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) I "assumed" it was drawn from the neck. If not, that's one totally wild and crazy bruise. I find it strange that it's so large. Edited February 26, 2012 by OwnedBySummer Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiffer Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 We've had bruising from blood draws before. It usually happens if the dog jumps or jerks away when they poke them. I'd keep an eye on it that it doesn't get worse; if it does continue, you need to see the vet in case the vein was blown. Scritches to Munchie. Quote Jennifer and Beamish (an unnamed Irish-born Racer) DOB: October 30, 2011 Forever and always missing my "Vowels", Icarus, Atlas, Orion, Uber, and Miss Echo, and Mojito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleGreys Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It can happen just from a blood draw. If it hasn't before, you do want to check the platelet count etc. but usually nothing to worry about as long as it isn't continuing to spread, swell, etc. It isn't swelling, but it is spreading/getting bigger. The bright red part that is on her chest now wasn't there yesterday. I will have my regular vet check it in the morning. I would assume her platelet count is normal since they did one on Friday, but I didn't ask specifically. I usually draw blood from her leg and it will just leave a very small bruise for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I would blame the blood draw-- the handler might not have applied pressure to the site long enough or with enough pressure post draw. One of mine did that recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJane Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 IMO, it's from the blood draw. Most vets and techs now seem to want to take it from the jugular but, I'm always worried about something going wrong when they take it from the throat (like the excessive bruising and even bleeding that yours is experiencing) so I tell them that they are ONLY to take it from the leg. They will usually tell me that that it's harder to get it from the leg but, they haven't had a problem so far on any of my big dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trihounds Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Agree on the blood draw theory. Next guess is bruising secondary to being moved / held / restrained / etc. If you are worried whether it is growing or not, mark the outline with a sharpie then you can gauge spread or contraction rate. Quote Doe's Bruciebaby Doe's Bumper Derek Follow my Ironman journeys and life with dogs, cats and busy kids: A long road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I agree it's probably just from the blood draw. She probably developed a hematoma after the draw - sometimes from not being held off long enough, sometimes from pulling on the leash shortly after the draw which can dislodge the clot, or sometimes 'just because.' The apparent continued spreading may just be the hematoma dissipating and the SQ blood slowly getting pulled down by gravity. I've had the same thing happened with one of my greys and have also seen it happen with a friend's whippet. The initial hematoma over the site of the blood draw gradually became a large bruise extending from the neck down to the chest over a period of several days before it started to go away. With my girl, it wasn't even a blood draw that caused the hematoma. It was a freak occurence from her pulling very hard on leash as I tried to get her away from the lure at a straight race meet. As we were walking off the field, I noticed a knot a little bigger than a golf ball on the side of her neck. Within a couple hours, the knot had gone down and turned to a more diffuse swelling, and the bruising was spreading down her neck. I don't have any good photos, but here's one of the tail end of it. This was taken 4-5 days after it started, and the bruise on her chest was the last part to go away. Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan41 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's probably from the blood draw, but if you want an easy indicator to rule out a bleeding disorder, do a mucosal bleed test. It's much less expensive than the blood test for von Willebrand's. If it happens again, and blood work is normal, I would go ahead and test for von Willebrand's. I have one that is positive for vW - it doesn't change anything, but it's good to know "just in case". Quote Linda, Mom to Fuzz, Barkley, and the felines Miss Kitty, Simon and Joseph.Waiting at The Bridge: Alex, Josh, Harley, Nikki, Beemer, Anna, Frank, Rachel, my heart & soul, Suze and the best boy ever, Dalton.<p> ....for all those hounds that are sick, hurt, lost or waiting for their forever homes. SENIORS ROCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytdecals Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Our little Lena recently had a dental and with 2 failed attempts at putting a catheter in her leg she ended up looking like this Her little ankle on her leg was so swollen and the bruising looked terrible. The Vet said they have never seen a dog bleed so much from a failed catheter insert...they couldn't get it to stop. Finally it let up. I told them to keep Amicar on hand because greyhounds can be bleeders! I rubbed arnica gel on her leg 3xs a day for a few days and the buising went away within 3-4 days. Quote Suzie Collins Owner/Artist Skinny Hound Designs Greyhound decals, magnets and signs. Fur kids: Isabelle and Petey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Treasure looked like that after a fall. It was very scary and we ended up at the even. It went away pretty quickly. Quote Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyroo Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 This looks so scarey. My dogs have always had blood draws from their legs. Quote Jodie D (hope to have another grey name her soon) Missing my Bridge Babies: Rusty (Cut a Rusty) 10/18/95-06/09/09 Solo (Tali Solo Nino) 01/10/98-03/25/10 Franny (Frohmader) 02/28/04-08/31/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleGreys Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks for all the replies. I spoke to Dr Radcliffe and he said it is from the blood draw. He apologized and said in all the turmoil he didn't think to put a wrap on it. He used her neck for the blood because he thought he would need IVs in both front legs for the procedure. I figured that was all it was, but with everything going on right now, it was one more thing to worry about. We sent her films to Auburn yesterday to get their thoughts. Unfortunately, I think all I am doing is torturing myself, its going to be a matter of waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greygirls2 Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Because the bruising is mostly on the chest, front area I would guess it was from struggling on the table during the x-rays and repositioning him. JJ had two bruises to the inside of his back legs from just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Because the bruising is mostly on the chest, front area I would guess it was from struggling on the table during the x-rays and repositioning him. JJ had two bruises to the inside of his back legs from just that. I'm sure that did not happen at Dr R's clinic. It was from the draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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