RileysLegacy Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) About a month ago, I was walking my dogs and a group of little dogs that roam my neighborhood came up to us and attacked Puzzle and Jabari (my IGs) both had puncture wounds, and spent the afternoon at the vet getting them cleaned out. They were both put on Clavamox for a week, and both seemed to be healing up great. Puzzle's wound was on his thigh and was scabbed over and everything, but then yesterday morning when he woke up there was a huge bubble under his skin. By the time I got him to the vet it had already popped and blood and puss was oozing out. It was just 2 small spots. The vet (someone new b/c my vet is out for a week), put him on Baytril and sent us on our way. She didn't clean it or tell me to put anything on it. Today it is looking worse, there are 3 holes and it's continuing to ooze. I am worried and not sure if I should be cleaning it somehow or what? I've just been gently wiping it with a warm compress. I will call back on Monday but thought I'd ask here in the meantime. Thanks in advance for any help Edited March 30, 2012 by RileysLegacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I would do some hot compresses and just prevent him from licking the wound. I hope he feels better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 ok thank you! he's a really good boy and hasn't been licking it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) Seems like there might be a deep pocket. I would flush the wound with dilute chlorhexidine soultion using an oral or a curved tip syringe. It may help to warm compress the area a couple of times a day using a warm, wet washcloth. Baytril is a pretty strong antibiotic. Edited to add-- try to keep the wound open-prevent it scabbing over that way it may drain. Edited November 6, 2011 by tbhounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 yeah, it seems like a deep pocket i have some chlorhexidine solution i can put on it. thanks! ok, that is good to know about the scabbing. so glad the vet told me all of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Try to flush the wound-- don't forget to dilute the chlrohex- good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudzu Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 tbhounds, what ratio dilution do you use for chlorhexidine? My horse's vet suggested 9:1 water to Betadine (10% povidone iodine). Guess that makes it 1% povidone iodine. That way you don't need to worry about rinsing it off. Just curious about the level for chlorhexidine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 A grey might let you flush a wound like that, but not sure if most iggies would... It can be a pretty painful process. The photo from today actually looks pretty good to me. If it's continuing to ooze, that's a good thing. Will probably take the antibiotics a couple days to really kick in. Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 A grey might let you flush a wound like that, but not sure if most iggies would... It can be a pretty painful process. The photo from today actually looks pretty good to me. If it's continuing to ooze, that's a good thing. Will probably take the antibiotics a couple days to really kick in. Oh good, I feel a lot better now, thanks so much! Puzzle will let me do anything to him, so no worries there, but I don't want to hurt him I'll just dilute it really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesmom Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Poor baby! My Shelby (1/2 whippet) had a neighbor's unconfined dog bite her while we were on a walk (a number of years ago). She had two puncture wounds in almost the exact same place. Went to the vet and got antibiotics. She also developed an abcess. Before I got her back to the vet it started draining (middle of the night of course) through the original puncture wound. Sweet Shelby was good enough to let me gently "massage" the area to push the pus out. When I had gotten most of it out, she let me know she had enough so I stopped. The vet said that I did fine and gave Shelby a different antibiotic. She recovered quickly and is just fine today. I did want to add that the opening was quite small -- I'm not sure how I would have been able to flush it. She developed quite a large abscess (about a 4 inch round by 11/2 inch high area) by the time it started draining. I know it wasn't this much, but it seemed like I got 2 or 3 cups of "gunk" out of it. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 Poor baby! My Shelby (1/2 whippet) had a neighbor's unconfined dog bite her while we were on a walk (a number of years ago). She had two puncture wounds in almost the exact same place. Went to the vet and got antibiotics. She also developed an abcess. Before I got her back to the vet it started draining (middle of the night of course) through the original puncture wound. Sweet Shelby was good enough to let me gently "massage" the area to push the pus out. When I had gotten most of it out, she let me know she had enough so I stopped. The vet said that I did fine and gave Shelby a different antibiotic. She recovered quickly and is just fine today. I did want to add that the opening was quite small -- I'm not sure how I would have been able to flush it. She developed quite a large abscess (about a 4 inch round by 11/2 inch high area) by the time it started draining. I know it wasn't this much, but it seemed like I got 2 or 3 cups of "gunk" out of it. Jane Thanks Jane, that sounds exactly like what happened, so I am hopeful Puzzle will heal quickly like Shelby did. What are the signs to look for that I should be concerned? It looks worse to me today, it is more open and oozing a lot of clear stuff. And he is licking a little I know it will take a few days for the abx to kick in, but I want to be sure to stay on top of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I would do the dilute chlorhex flush myself, but an alternative if he doesn't like it might be to just let warm water run over it for a bit a few times a day. Not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that promotes wound healing and would still flush it out pretty well. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 It's been a long time since we've had a deep puncture but IIRC what we did with ours was warm soak (wet compress) with dilute Nolvasan / Chlorhexidine / Epsom salts, mainly to keep it open while it was healing. Clear stuff is OK, gooey greenish smelly stuff would be not OK. Best wishes to your handsome little guy. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 thank guys, i'm so glad i asked! i've never dealt with an infected bite before so i'm obviously clueless and of course a worried momma i flushed it w/ the chlorhex last night & this morning, i'll do it again later tonight. he didn't love it but was cooperative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Sounds like it's healing- it might look worse before it gets better. Keeping it open will allow it to drain. Remember you want it to heal inside to outside. Puncture wounds get narly because they close over so quickly trapping bacteria allowing the bacteria to have a field day. I don't have an exact dilution ratio Chlorhex:water-- I usually dilute to a light sky blue. Keep up the good work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BootsyCollins Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I have no advice, but wookit dat face! Quote Christie and Bootsy (Turt McGurt and Gil too) Loving and missing Argos & Likky, forever and ever. ~Old age means realizing you will never own all the dogs you wanted to. ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 here it is today.... looking ok? thanks Christie, he is pretty darn cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newgreymom Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Lucy,he is just darling and his wound looks like what Daisy had. I would do water therapy. Take him in the tub or shower and just let cool water run over the wound for 10 or 15 min. It works wonders!! Daisy's was probably 3 times the size of Puzzles boo boo...Hugs for both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devotion Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Haven't read the responses at all. Avril was attacked by a pitbull on Friday. She is on baytril. She had numerous sutures and bite wounds. I just can't even think about this. It's awful. but I do know from my vet that bites can be serious and cause nasty problems. Avril is on Doxy for a TBD, Encephalitis and also has seizures. But yes, I'd get some meds. Hoping for a good recovery for your little one! also, we did water therapy and hotpacks. Edited November 8, 2011 by Devotion Quote Pam with greys Avril, Dalton & Zeus & Diddy the dachshund & Miss Buzz the kitty Devotion, Jingle Bells, Rocky, Hans, Harbor, Lennon, NoLa, Scooter, Naomi and Scout at the bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 hi guys, i noticed another lump on puzzle's thigh/butt this morning and his skin looks purple underneath. it is a few inches away from these other holes. and this is how it looks today. it's not draining much anymore, and he's losing his fur. he has a vet appointment with our regular vet on tues morning. is that soon enough? i'm worried the infection is spreading. he has about 5 days of baytril left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Is this new purple lump lower on his leg than the initial injury? If so it could be just a hemotoma (bruise) pooling. I've had dogs have an initial injury on a side and later found a big pooling at the lowert point on the chest. Hope it's something simple. Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Rita the podenco maneta, Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Is this new purple lump lower on his leg than the initial injury? If so it could be just a hemotoma (bruise) pooling. I've had dogs have an initial injury on a side and later found a big pooling at the lowert point on the chest. Hope it's something simple. not really... it's about parallel to the ground, but closer to his tail. it does look like a bruise, though. could he get a hematoma this long after the intial injury? it's been like 5 weeks since he was bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Might be worth giving the vet a call tomorrow and describing the new bump in case he/she wants to change antibiotics. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 The original site looks greyt!!! The second site may not even be related to the original injury. Your vet will be able to determine that by aspirating it. I don't think it's something that can't wait a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RileysLegacy Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 thanks guy, Puzzle is going to the vet this morning. He has a new open sore where that lump was yesterday, so I want her to check it out. I really appreciate all of your help, I'll update later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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