Guest zombrie Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) The past two days Doolin has continued to have his gurgly, food strike, stomach issues. He continued to have bloody, yucky stool. But today he is back to normal. The vet has diagnosed him with IBD. The vet seems to think Doolin didn't have a scratched trachea, and his problem was acid reflux (questioning that one - I could actually see scratches in his throat. It was a different vet that saw him the night of the incident so our normal vet didn't see that). The vet has put him on Flagyl, immodium for 3-4 days, pepcid at night (not in the morning like we were doing) and we also started him on FortiFlora like someone on here suggested. He also encouraged us to let Doolin eat his precious horse poop since it always makes him feel better and gives him normal poops But hey, whatever works!! Looking up IBD, it kind of makes sense. He seems to worsen when changes happen (me going back to school, my brothers dog visiting for the weekend, etc), and I read that stress can trigger it. I also read that dogs with IBD can have bloody stool. The vet wants us to call in two weeks to let him know how he is doing. If the meds don't work, we will start messing with his diet. Edited March 23, 2011 by zombrie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Hang tough, Doolin! Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhead Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Glad to hear you and Doolin are managing! Quote Mary with Jumper Jack (2/17/11) and angels Shane (PA's Busta Rime, 12/10/02 - 10/14/16) and Spencer (Dutch Laser, 11/25/00 - 3/29/13). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carronstar Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Keep healing Doolin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamaha_gurl Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 It's good that Doolin got a diagnosis...now time to heal up Doolin! I dunno about letting him eat poo though Quote Greyhound Collars : www.collartown.ca Maggie (the human servant), with Miss Bella, racing name "A Star Blackieto" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 It's good that Doolin got a diagnosis...now time to heal up Doolin! I dunno about letting him eat poo though The reason for allowing him to eat it is because it always heals him. The next day after eating it he has no stomach issues and normal, solid poop. The vet explained that horses pass a large amount of good gut bacteria. I read up that foals will eat their mother's manure because it builds up a good stomach (don't know if it's true or not - it's just what I read) All the horses are healthy and are dewormed regularly so it won't do any harm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 It's good that Doolin got a diagnosis...now time to heal up Doolin! I dunno about letting him eat poo though The reason for allowing him to eat it is because it always heals him. The next day after eating it he has no stomach issues and normal, solid poop. The vet explained that horses pass a large amount of good gut bacteria. I read up that foals will eat their mother's manure because it builds up a good stomach (don't know if it's true or not - it's just what I read) All the horses are healthy and are dewormed regularly so it won't do any harm Hey maybe you need to bag that stuff up and sell it as a proprietory blend at an outrageous price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 It's good that Doolin got a diagnosis...now time to heal up Doolin! I dunno about letting him eat poo though The reason for allowing him to eat it is because it always heals him. The next day after eating it he has no stomach issues and normal, solid poop. The vet explained that horses pass a large amount of good gut bacteria. I read up that foals will eat their mother's manure because it builds up a good stomach (don't know if it's true or not - it's just what I read) All the horses are healthy and are dewormed regularly so it won't do any harm Hey maybe you need to bag that stuff up and sell it as a proprietory blend at an outrageous price. It's all natural, too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remolacha Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Stress can definitely trigger an IBD flare-up! I think packaging horse poop as an all-natural digestive upset treatment is brilliant I seem to remember awhile back someone was selling dried zoo poop (elephant, zerbra, etc) as a plant food BTW, how is Caesar doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Stress can definitely trigger an IBD flare-up! I think packaging horse poop as an all-natural digestive upset treatment is brilliant I seem to remember awhile back someone was selling dried zoo poop (elephant, zerbra, etc) as a plant food BTW, how is Caesar doing? Exotic poo... I think that is brilliant! Caesar is great! After only a couple days on the Doxy he was back to normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytpups Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Hope he continues to do well! Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest happygrey Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 LOL, the last time Tatam had a sketchy tummy he ate some gross nasties (road kill ) on a walk and that seem to cure his tum. He's also very sensitive to stress and it shows up as "tummy trouble" all the time. If you do think about changing Doolin's diet I'd highly recommend trying him on the Taste of the Wild Salmon formula. It really, really helped T's tum. We tried Fortiflora and other supplements like that, yogurt, pumpkin and about 4-5 other foods before landing on the TOTW. I'm a believer! Glad to hear Caesar is better. Hope Doolin is better soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 *sigh* Doolin has gotten worse. He has the Big D worse than ever. He needs to go out more than usual and even had to go out in the middle of the night. He was very uncomfortable last night, constantly getting up and pacing, all night long. He is on Metronidazole and Immodium, shouldn't that have stopped it? Today he had hamburger with only a handful of kibble. Should we only give him hamburger? Nothing at all so his stomach can rest? Argh, the poor baby... I don't know what to do to make him feel better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stripeyfan Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Oh no. Has Doolin had an abdominal x-ray or ultrasound? If not (and if you can afford it), it might be a good idea, as it sounds as if he's in pain. Kelly gets horrible D with his IBD but is rarely uncomfortable. If it is IBD, though, it can flare up even if the dog is on meds. Kelly's will flare up regardless of the levels of meds he's on if he eats anything other than his bland, home-cooked diet (or mice...don't ask!). If the D has been bad I wouldn't feed anything for 24 hrs, but make sure Doolin drinks. You could also give slippery elm bark powder in some warm water. Then tomorrow (as long as the D's stopped), feed little and often - when we do this for Kelly we usually give him about 1/2 his normal amount of food over 6 feeds. Slowly work up to a normal amount of food over a couple of days. We've found with Kelly this is the only way to stop a flare-up and get him back to normal. And yes, I would skip the kibble, it can be hard for a dog with an upset tummy to digest. I hope Doolin feels better soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phall Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Brie, How is Doolin this morning? Did he settle down at all last night? Was there any blood in his stool? How he is acting is very similar to what we went through with Star with his colitis - the discomfort, getting up at night, etc. We did have x-rays and an ultrasound done to help us diagnose this. The internal medicine specialist we see originally suggested a colonoscopy (can't remember the name when it's for dogs) but the prep for it is the same as for humans and because of the stress we would be putting Star through, we opted to go the more conservative route of diet and medication. Let us know how he is today. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickiesmom Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I wonder if it would be worth putting him on one of the IBD prescription diets (with or without the horse poo) to see if it would settle his system down and give him time to heal, then start introducing things back one at a time or whatever the process is in these cases. RobinM has been around this block with Beau, she could probably tell you how they determined what he would tolerate. Poor Doolin. Hope he feels better soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Thanks for the responses This morning Doolin still has the big D. We are not going feeding him anything. He started to throw up 3 times, but only the first time something came out. It was only a tiny bit - but there were specks of blood in it I have a bad feeling it's not IBD. It just really worries me that this happened after the scratched trachea, he hasn't been normal since that happened. The three months prior to that he was completely normal with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Assuming he's had an abdominal x-ray? Don't want to scare you silly, but Joseph's blockage experience manifested itself with diarrhea + vomiting. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 sending many prayers for your sweet boy :hope Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ravenchilde Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Sending my positive healing thoughts to Doolin. Hope it gets better soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Assuming he's had an abdominal x-ray? Don't want to scare you silly, but Joseph's blockage experience manifested itself with diarrhea + vomiting. Not yet, but I think that will be in the near future. We'll see how he does today/tonight without any food in his tummy. The vet is 100% convinced it is IBD and Doolin's scratched trachea was actually acid reflux. I wish the vet that saw him the night he had the incident was still there, he was the one that saw the scratches down his throat and saw what was happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIGreyLady Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hugs to you and Doolin. Hoping he feels better soon. Quote Mimi- mom to Burdette (KB's Burdette), Sophie (LL's Stupid Is) and bridge babies Kelsey (Kelso's Logo), Sterling (Cold B Tiger), Fritz, Tasha, Chloe and Molly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Assuming he's had an abdominal x-ray? Don't want to scare you silly, but Joseph's blockage experience manifested itself with diarrhea + vomiting. Not yet, but I think that will be in the near future. We'll see how he does today/tonight without any food in his tummy. The vet is 100% convinced it is IBD and Doolin's scratched trachea was actually acid reflux. I wish the vet that saw him the night he had the incident was still there, he was the one that saw the scratches down his throat and saw what was happening. I found this information on the Crohn’s & Colitis Foundation of America website: The diagnosis of IBD is based on a combination of exams: endoscopic (different types of scopes), radiologic (x-rays) and histologic (blood and tissue) tests. If you do have IBD, you may need additional tests from time to time to monitor the disease, or diagnose possible complications or the side effects of medication. I really do not understand how your vet could have diagnosed IBD without an x-ray at the minimum. I would also think she would be pushing for an x-ray to rule out blockage based on the initial belief of a scratched trachea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetdogs Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Is it possible that he ate something that scratched his throat on the way down & is now stuck somewhere in his belly? I'd have an xray done right away. They can store things in their bellies for longer than would seem possible. Quote Deirdre with Conor (Daring Pocobueno), Keeva (Kiowa Mimi Mona), & kittehs Gemma & robthomas. Our beloved angels Faolin & Liath, & kittehs Mona & Caesar. Remembering Bobby, Doc McCoy, & Chip McGrath. "He feeds you, pets you, adores you, collects your poop in a bag. There's only one explanation: you are a hairy little god." Nick Galifinakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zombrie Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Is it possible that he ate something that scratched his throat on the way down & is now stuck somewhere in his belly? I'd have an xray done right away. They can store things in their bellies for longer than would seem possible. That's kinda what I'm thinking... And I know how long things can just sit in them - my uncle's lab suddenly became ill and threw up an entire, unchewed leash, a leash that went missing 4 months before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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