Guest freightsmom Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 DH called to let me know Kai had thrown up three times today while I was at work. Was still drinking water and keeping that down. When I got home, I took him out in the backyard to see what his poop looked like. OMG! Nothing but blood poured out of him. Rushed to the vet, no fever, nothing in cytology showed a cause and bloodwork done. Vet said in the mean time she would give him a shot of Cerenia to stop the vomiting. Holy Batman! I have never heard or seen Kai scream or try to bite anyone but he sure was trying. The vet felt awful (she almost cried truth be told) and said that Cerenia really burns due to it's PH and since greys do not have any fat to inject it in, it really hurts them. So, note to self....no more Cerenia shots. I did look it up when I got home and it does come in tablets so next time we will go with tablets and not the shot. Just thought I'd share and hopefully save another greyohund from going through this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Poor guy. I hope he feels better soon and you figure out what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmswartzfager Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Keeping the Cerenia in the fridge does seem to alleviate the sting... I had to give an injection of Cerenia this morning to Symbra (nausea due to chemo), and while she wasn't happy about it, she didn't react as badly as I was expecting. But yeah, according to Plumb's, giving the injection versus giving the oral medication only "saves" you about an hour in terms of how quickly it is effective. Knowing that now, and factoring in the cost of the injection versus the pills, we're going to opt to go pill-only for Symbra's next chemo treatment. Quote Deanna with galgo Willow, greyhound Finn, and DH BrianRemembering Marcus (11/16/93 - 11/16/05), Tyler (2/3/01 - 11/6/06), Frazzle (7/2/94 - 7/23/07), Carrie (5/8/96 - 2/24/09), Blitz (3/28/97 - 6/10/11), Symbra (12/30/02 - 7/16/13), Scarlett (10/10/02 - 08/31/13), Wren (5/25/01 - 5/19/14), Rooster (3/7/07 - 8/28/18), Q (2008 - 8/31/19), and Momma Mia (2002 - 12/9/19). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It burns like the dickens-- as mentioned above keeping it in the fridge (off label) will reduce the string. You might want to pass that tip on to your vet. The oral version was most likely not offered to you because your hound was vomiting at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawthorn Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Absolutely. Sunny had to have one recently. The vet said that it might cause a "little bit of discomfort" but that was the understatement of the year! Screaming, trying to bite, huge amount of stress. Never again!!! Quote When a relationship of love is disrupted, the relationship does not cease. The love continues; therefore, the relationship continues. The work of grief is to reconcile and redeem life to a different love relationship. ~ W Scott Lineberry Always Greyhounds Home Boarding and Greyhounds With Love House Sitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Oh gosh... I'm so sorry to hear about the trauma your poor Kai had to suffer, but thanks for letting us know. Jeffie was put on Cerenia by mouth recently because this dog will vomit at the drop of a hat at the best of times and they wanted him to have an osteomyelitis dose of Antirobe - which is known for its GI side effects. With the oral form you need to give it with a 'small meal' to prevent them vomiting but it worked like a dream for him. He's been on the Antirobe (clindamycin) at a very high dose for nearly three weeks with no problem. He finishes Thursday - Yay! Theory is that if you give Cerenia for this reason, you only need to give it for three to five days at the beginning of the course of antibiotics and then you can stop. Sure enough, seems to work that way! We found that a cheese sandwich did the job nicely as the 'small meal'. Edited February 29, 2012 by silverfish Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascalsmom Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Jack had the same reaction to cerenia....it was horrible!! I felt just awful for him. The weird thing is that in December, my cat had an injection of cerenia--I was expecting another BIG reaction from her, based on Jack's reaction--and she never flinched. Edited February 29, 2012 by rascalsmom Quote Phoebe (Belle's Sweetpea) adopted 9/2/13. Jack (BTR Captain Jack) 9/28/05--11/2/12Always missing Buddy, Ruby, and Rascal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feisty49 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Poor guy. It hurt him terribly but I know you were also hurting. I've heard Annie Bella give the GSD only once, and I swear it broke my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racindog Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for the heads up. I am addding it to my do not use list. The last thing a sick dog needs is more stress from unnecessary pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJane Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for the heads up about the shot. Hope that Kai is feeling better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K9Cookies Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Used to happen to Bonnie when we did Cerenia after her chemo treatments. We did it a few times, but the last time was super traumatic for all of us. She screamed, peed on the floor...the whole works. Wasn't worth it, but it was a miracle drug for a while. It really does work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DogNite Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Add Spirit to this list of Screaming pups when on the receiving end of this shot! I've never herd or seen her be so mad at the vet tech before! pill form from now on! Quote lorinda, mom to the ever revolving door of Foster greyhounds Always in my heart: Teala (LC Sweet Dream) , Pepton, Darbee-Do (Hey Barb) , Rascal (Abitta Rascal), Power (Beyond the Power), and the miracle boy LAZER (2/21/14), Spirit (Bitter Almonds) 8/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest freightsmom Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Jack had the same reaction to cerenia....it was horrible!! I felt just awful for him. The weird thing is that in December, my cat had an injection of cerenia--I was expecting another BIG reaction from her, based on Jack's reaction--and she never flinched. Yep, the vet mentioned that the kitties rarely react to the shot....lucky them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest capers7 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow! I am so sorry Kai had to go through that, (you and the vet too)! Thank you very much for the warning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeidisMum Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'm sorry to hear you all had to go through that. Heidi had the shot in Decmeber when she was vomiting. The vet warned me that she might scream as it would hurt. She never made a sound and didn't seem any more stressed than she normally is at the vet. I think they do keep it in the fridge though. It did work great. I don't know if the pill would work if they can't keep anything down. Quote Christine- Mum to Betty (Nitro Ugly Betty), Hannah (Rj Have I Told U) and missing Heidi (Sendahl Eve) 04/21/2005-06/19/2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Jack had the same reaction to cerenia....it was horrible!! I felt just awful for him. The weird thing is that in December, my cat had an injection of cerenia--I was expecting another BIG reaction from her, based on Jack's reaction--and she never flinched. Tis true-- cats don't blink an eye when they are on the receiving end of the injection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTRAWLD Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I've used the pills/tabs quite successfully in Ryder. The vet said that they are quite familiar with giving cerenia to greyhounds, and told us the pill format is the best method. Poor pup. 1 pill for him though made him a complete zombie, had to cut the dosage and then he was ok visually and ok in his tummy too. Quote Proudly owned by:10 year old "Ryder" CR Redman Gotcha May 201012.5 year old Angel "Kasey" Goodbye Kasey Gotcha July 2005-Aug 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I've used the pills/tabs quite successfully in Ryder. ..... 1 pill for him though made him a complete zombie, had to cut the dosage and then he was ok visually and ok in his tummy too. That's very strange. Jeff had no side effects at all. He had the pill once a day, kept all of them down perfectly well and was his normal self. When he'd finished the Cerenia allowance, his appetite dropped badly, but he hasn't vomited and he's still on the Antirobe. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTRAWLD Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yes. Even the vet thought that was a bit strange but every dog, just like people, react differently. He was soooooo relaxed the first night on pills I was worried he'd stop breathing. I remember checking on him in the middle of the night because he did not stir once. Cut it back to half and all was good. We used it to treat his vomiting in the middle of the night over a year ago and only had one instance since. Quote Proudly owned by:10 year old "Ryder" CR Redman Gotcha May 201012.5 year old Angel "Kasey" Goodbye Kasey Gotcha July 2005-Aug 1, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest patgam Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 My Bugsy had that shot on Monday & the vet told me he would scream instead of her. I think they both did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest twoskinnydogs Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ouch!!! Toby has only had Cerenia IV, I will keep this in mind if he ever needs it IM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Before deciding to refuse Cerenia injections, see if your vet knows that it stings less if kept in the fridge and given cold, as others have mentioned. It's really a very effective medication, and if your dog is vomiting, the oral form may not be a good option. Here's a link to the abstract of a study that looked at this issue. And a PDF of the full article. Also, an article in a veterinary magazine written by a respected gastroenterologist that includes a section which states: "The issue of stinging on injection: Information from clinical experience and studies over the last year indicates that there is less likelihood for stinging to occur with maropitant injections when the product is kept refrigerated. The current guidance is that the solution should be kept refrigerated and drawn up and injected right away at refrigerated temp." Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Never heard of it, but I had a yellow fever shot once, and MAN did it hurt, so if it was anything like that--poor pup! Hope he's on the mend. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Never heard of it, but I had a yellow fever shot once, and MAN did it hurt, so if it was anything like that--poor pup! Hope he's on the mend. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest june Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Thanks for the tip. Hope Kai is doing better and that you find out what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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