grey14me Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I think Dr. Couto would consult on anything...it's certainly worth a try. How very bizarre and scary for you I am really, really hoping Jackson is okay :hope Quote Michelle...forever missing her girls, Holly 5/22/99-9/13/10 and Bailey 8/1/93-7/11/05 Religion is the smile on a dog...Edie Brickell Wag more, bark less :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeForHounds Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Dr Couto is away, but use the link in my siggy and contact the Greyhound Health and Wellness Team. They will consult, probably want you to have the x-rays etc sent up. Definitly worth it IMO Quote Casual Bling & Hope for HoundsJanet & the hounds Maggie and Allen Missing my baby girl Peanut, old soul Jake, quirky Jet, Mama Grandy and my old Diva Miz Foxy; my angel, my inspiration. You all brought so much into my light, and taught me so much about the power of love, you are with me always.If you get the chance to sit it out or dance.......... I hope you dance! Missing our littlest girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Dr Couto is away, but use the link in my siggy and contact the Greyhound Health and Wellness Team. They will consult, probably want you to have the x-rays etc sent up. Definitly worth it IMO What she said. Time to get the "Dr. House" of greyhounds on the case. Fingers crossed that Jackson stays stable while they sort him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGirlInOz Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 back from the vet. if there's improvement, it's very slight. the vet reviewed yesterday's films with the head vet at the clinic, and he thinks it's a pneumothorax (collapsed lung). the biig question still remains -- why? it's something they'd expect to see if he had sustained major trauma, like being HBC. I asked for a barium contrast on the xrays - didn't show any leaks. so we've ruled that out. we're going to do panacur, just in case he had some strange parasite (the only way to test for them is invasive and requires going into the lungs, which i'm not interested in doing). I'll keep him on the tramadol as needed, keep him quiet, and take him back for a recheck in 2 weeks, assuming he's not getting any worse. if he does get worse, then we'll have to talk about aspirating some of the air w/ a syringe, which can have bad outcomes. Mokkah suffered a spontaneous pneumothorax when he was about 18 months old and training to race. He was monitored to see of the hole would close up by itself, but it didn't---he did end up having emergency surgery to repair it. They biopsied the lung and came up with nothing---they still don't know why or how it happened, or if it would happen again---but if it's any comfort to you, he's now over 4 years old and in perfect health. If you want to get advice from vets who have experience in treating this condition, I'd be happy to give you the names and phone numbers of the vets here who treated him. Quote "Hurricane Sandi" (Baurna to Run). Forever missing my "Angel-With-A Crooked-Halo" Hailey, and "Mokkah" (Xpress Point) with all my heart. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." ~~Will Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KyGrey Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Sending more prayers to my buddy Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytful4 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Sending best wishes and lots of prayers for your boy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissn333 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Just saw this now - how scary! I hope you can find some answers or at the very least that Jackson will be feeling better. I'm sure you'd love to have some answers but will settle for a mystery occurrence as long as he gets better. Quote Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) do you think this is something that Dr Couto would consult on? is it worth giving him a call? In desperation over Carl's eye condition I emailed OSU's greyhound Health & Wellness Program. I had a response within hours from Dr. Vilar, they were very happy to consult with the me and the ophthalmologist. There was never any concern that his eye problem had anything to do with cancer. If I were you I would absolutely contact them - ASAP. You just never know what they've seen and treated over the years....things that aren't related to cancer. Here's the email: couto.1@osu.edu I hope you can get to the bottom of this soon and get your boy back up to speed. Gentle hugs from SoCal. Edited April 18, 2009 by ckruzan Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahicks51 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Spontaneous pneumothorax is surprisingly common in young adults. The typical patient is tall, lanky, and skinny- and the event is frequently associated with exertion, with the precise moment known to them ("I felt this pop in my chest..."). Decompression in the field (McSwain dart or similar) is straightforward, but until something plugs up the breech in the lung, it's a temporary fix. Hopefully Jackson's is small and will resolve on its own! Quote Coco (Maze Cocodrillo) Minerva (Kid's Snipper) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marion Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Many good vibs coming Jackson's way from Spain...still hoping it's nothing serious. Quote -------------------------------------------- Marion, Ivy & Soldi Perseverance is not a long race... it is many short races one after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevd Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Best wishes being sent from across the pond Quote Deerhounds Darcy, Duffy, Grace & Wellington, Mutts Sprout & Buddy, Lurchers Ned & Jake plus Ella the Westie + cats. Remembering Del, Jessie, Maddison, Flo, Sally, Stanley, Wallace, Radar, Mokka, Oki cat, Tetley, Poppy & Striker. Please visit our web store at http://www.dogsndubs.com for our own range of Greyhound related clothing for humans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IrskasMom Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Sending more Hugs and more Prayers for Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 do you think this is something that Dr Couto would consult on? is it worth giving him a call? i'm going to check w/ our regular vet tomorrow morning, just to see if he has any ideas. the vet who saw him last night and tonight is stumped....but appreciates my willingness to test and try different things. (as though i have a choice, really?) He is in Spain but his staff is there. Any chance it could be lung flukes? Where did he race and come from? Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 oh no :( :( sending many prayers for Jackson!!!! :hope :hope Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TexasGreytMom Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hugs to Jackson from Dora and Shelby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieAndRexsMom Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hugs to you and Jackson. I know you are worried. Quote Tonya, mom to May, and my angels Vinnie, Rex, Red, Chase, and Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BoogieDown Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 We are sending hugs and good thoughts out to all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VelvetEars Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) Spontaneous pneumothorax is surprisingly common in young adults. The typical patient is tall, lanky, and skinny- and the event is frequently associated with exertion, with the precise moment known to them ("I felt this pop in my chest..."). Decompression in the field (McSwain dart or similar) is straightforward, but until something plugs up the breech in the lung, it's a temporary fix. Hopefully Jackson's is small and will resolve on its own! spontaneous pneumothorax actually runs in my family. brother...mom...uncle.... all tall, lanky, etc., although it has hit even my mom in her 50s. when i mentioned this to the vet (because he *is* tall, lanky, and thin!), she'd never heard of people being genetically predisposed. He does do zoomies around the yard almost every day, and more so now that Jumpy will chase him and egg him on. So it's possible that he did it during one of his laps. I left a msg for our regular vet (diff practice than where he's been seen so far). They're older and have a lot of experience - I'm hoping they may have some ideas. I also wonder how long it can take to resolve. Any chance it could be lung flukes? Where did he race and come from? He's my I-went-undercover-at-the-Humane Soc dog....seized from a hoarder....probably an oops puppy, as he has no tats. So we don't even know how old he is, which always adds an interesting element to the conversation. All I can say is he's older than he was when I brought him home. We talked about lung flukes. But they're more common in places like the NW, if he'd been wading in a stream and eating salmon. So unless he's been on vacation w/o telling me.... Will the panacur help w/ lung flukes if that's what it is, though? Edited April 18, 2009 by VelvetEars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 I thought I read some time ago about southern dog with flukes but I could be wrong. Wish I could remember..... Paragonimus kellicotti and P westermani usually are found in cysts, primarily in the lungs of dogs, cats, and several other domestic and wild animals. They also have been found rarely in other viscera or the brain. Infection is most common in China, southeast Asia, and North America. P westermani is a parasite of humans and other animals in China and other countries in the Far East. The adults are fleshy, reddish brown, oval, and ~14 × 7 mm. The eggs are golden brown, oval, distinctly operculated, and ~100 × 60 µm. The eggs pass through the cyst wall, are coughed up, swallowed, and passed in the feces. The life cycle includes several snails as the first intermediate host and crayfish or crabs as the second. Dogs and cats become infected by eating raw crayfish or crabs that contain the encysted cercariae. After penetrating the intestinal wall and wandering in the peritoneal cavity, the young flukes pass through the diaphragm to the lungs where they become established. Infected animals may have a chronic, deep, intermittent cough and eventually become weak and lethargic, although many infections pass unnoticed. Finding the characteristic eggs in feces or sputum is diagnostic. The location in the lungs is ascertained by radiography. Aberrant infections can be identified serologically. Apparently they do show up in a fecal. Since he didn't race, I doubt that is it. An untreated hook worm infestation can do damage to the lungs, and round worms also. Not sure about whip. Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LolasMom Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 No knowledge of lung flukes here. But lots and lots of well wishes for and easy fix with Panacur coming your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KyGrey Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Checking in on Jackson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VelvetEars Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Talked to one of the vets at our regular practice. He said basically do what we're doing for now, although if he's not improving over the next few weeks, or gets worse, that we may want to consider a specialist visit and an ultrasound. So....... I think we need all the prayers and white light you can muster. I've seen the power of GT work before...surely y'all can heal a pesky old pneumothorax, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KyGrey Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Sending lots and lots of prayers. How is he today? Has he found a way to get comfortable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VelvetEars Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 he seems about the same. he's got to be tired of laying on his stomach. he's tried being on the couch w/ me, but gets up/off right away and goes back to the floor. i offered him more canned food this afternoon, and he walked away. i think the cats ate it. (he ate some this morning, but 2/3 of a can isn't enough to fill him up, i don't think.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandysMom Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Sending prayers that Jackson will feel better soon. Quote Beverly. Missing my happy toy-flinging boy Sammy (Where's Mandrill), (8/12/2009-9/30-2021) Desperately missing my angel Mandy (BB's Luv) [7/1/2000 - 9/18/2012]. Always missing Meg the Dalmatian and Ralph Malph the Pekeapoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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