a_daerr Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 First of all, it's important, that the dog gets used to a fixed schedule of walking and feeding times. A dog's digestion uses to takemore or less 11 hours. So if you feed for example at 8 o'clock in the evening, the dog is ready to 'empty out' at 7h in the morning. If the dog has no digestive health issues, he can 'hold' it for a while after 7h in the morning. My Greys got their morning walk and another good walk in the afternoon...no problems with pee or poop, except when they had soft-stool issues. They could pee in the garden whenever they wanted, but preferred to distribute their pee during the walks. Normally dogs don't like to soil their territory...if they do so something goes wrong. Maybe I just had a difficult one then. I created a schedule to let him out at specific intervals (and of course, after meals, naps, and playtime). Lots of positive reinforcement training. At the worst, I was taking him out 10+ times per day. But he didn't like the cold weather and decided that he liked inside better. And he was a sneaky one. He would just sneak away and pee/poop anywhere BUT outside. No warning signals, nothing. It ended up costing $1900 to remove all the carpeting, plus the cost of the dog door and installation. It was one of those things where I had done literally everything by the book, but nothing worked. That's why I'm always amazed/jealous when people say they can let new dogs roam free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marion Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Maybe I just had a difficult one then. I created a schedule to let him out at specific intervals (and of course, after meals, naps, and playtime). Lots of positive reinforcement training. At the worst, I was taking him out 10+ times per day. But he didn't like the cold weather and decided that he liked inside better. And he was a sneaky one. He would just sneak away and pee/poop anywhere BUT outside. No warning signals, nothing. It ended up costing $1900 to remove all the carpeting, plus the cost of the dog door and installation. It was one of those things where I had done literally everything by the book, but nothing worked. That's why I'm always amazed/jealous when people say they can let new dogs roam free! I'm very sorry that you had so bad luck with your Grey...10 times a day hoping for pee or poop, that must be frustrating. I'm at the end with my advice then...I hope that you get the problem settled. Quote -------------------------------------------- Marion, Ivy & Soldi Perseverance is not a long race... it is many short races one after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 He would just sneak away and pee/poop anywhere BUT outside. No warning signals, nothing. When housetraining, I gate the dog into the same room with me so I can keep an eye on him; some folks use leash-bonding if necessary. I also figure that if the dog is on his feet and not actively playing, it's time to go outside. The more you can *prevent* indoor pottying in the beginning -- especially those first several days to a week -- the less likely you are to get anything except true *accidents*. Much easier to be militant, for want of a better word , starting out than to retrain an ingrained behavior. Some dogs are harder and take longer than others tho. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 The more you can *prevent* indoor pottying in the beginning -- especially those first several days to a week -- the less likely you are to get anything except true *accidents*. Much easier to be militant, for want of a better word , starting out than to retrain an ingrained behavior. Some dogs are harder and take longer than others tho. Agree! Thanks Batmom and Marion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydyelady Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 We watched Toley like a hawk the first weekend he was home (2 weeks ago), and by the end of the weekend he got it. No accidents in the house when we are home, none at night. He got that part of the training down immediately. Its just when we leave that we have issues. So this weekend will be the overload of alone training, coming and going at all hours, in and out. Our neighbors will probably think we are nuts! Quote Mom to Toley (Astascocita Toley) DOB 1/12/09, and Bridge Angel Opie (Wine Sips Away) 3/14/03-12/29/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deboosh Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Let them think you're nuts.......it'll give them something to talk about. Onwards and upwards. Wishing you lots of progress; please keep us updated! Quote Image removed, not within Signature Guidelines. Forever Home on December 20, 2012Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydyelady Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Well update on yesterday's behavior. The bad first - he did pee, in his belly band, and on a pee pad (again no mess!) The good parts: NO poop! Yeah! Nothing destroyed or chewed. No pushing when I walked out the door, just watched me. He was actually SLEEPING in the bedroom when we came home! This part is huge! The fact that he was able to calm himself down, and not running from room to room looking for us the whole time we were gone. I do know he went on the bed, on the bed in the spare room,. and on the living room chair to look out the window, but this is all stuff I would expect. Also, again he did not knock over the baby gate to the kitchen, or even try to. I "think" these are all progress steps. We are doing the intense in/out alone training this weekend, while we are home, and getting a Thunder Shirt from a friend, so hopefully Monday will be even better. We are also taking him to the vet on Monday AM to have that tooth looked at. It doesn't seem to be bothering him, but it is a big chunk of tooth missing. Quote Mom to Toley (Astascocita Toley) DOB 1/12/09, and Bridge Angel Opie (Wine Sips Away) 3/14/03-12/29/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatterseaBrindl Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Quote Nancy...Mom to Sid (Peteles Tiger), Kibo (112 Carlota Galgos) and Joshi. Missing Casey, Gomer, Mona, Penelope, BillieJean, Bandit, Nixon (Starz Sammie), Ruby (Watch Me Dash) Nigel (Nigel), and especially little Mario, waiting at the Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjpk Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Sounds like a new beginning. Just be consistent with your training. Keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Hooray for progress! Quote Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest june Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Wow, that is progress! Congratulations. He will figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydyelady Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Toley Update for Monday. We did some alone training this weekend. This AM we had to go to the vet to have his tooth looked at (referred to a dental specialist). So we came home and I gave him Rescue Remedy, 6 calming herbal biscuits (they are small), and a Thundershirt that we borrowed from our friends. Well, he was sleeping again when we came home, no baby gate disturbed to kitchen, and best of all NO Poop or Pee! Woo Hoo! Way to go Toley! Quote Mom to Toley (Astascocita Toley) DOB 1/12/09, and Bridge Angel Opie (Wine Sips Away) 3/14/03-12/29/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) I think he got his message across to you loud and clear! Good boy, Toley! I'm with your boy -- I don't care for crates, either. Edited January 29, 2013 by OwnedBySummer Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjpk Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Terrific, keep up the good work all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deboosh Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Great news! Sounds like all of your efforts are starting to pay off Quote Image removed, not within Signature Guidelines. Forever Home on December 20, 2012Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tydyelady Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Dare I be even more excited? Day 2 in the Tundershirt - NO Poop! No Pee!! (Dry belly band!) No Babygate knocked over for the 3rd day! And again, sleeping in the bedroom! Good Boy Toley! Quote Mom to Toley (Astascocita Toley) DOB 1/12/09, and Bridge Angel Opie (Wine Sips Away) 3/14/03-12/29/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yay! Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandiandwe Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 YAY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deboosh Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 tydyelady! Quote Image removed, not within Signature Guidelines. Forever Home on December 20, 2012Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjpk Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So excited for you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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