RaineysMom Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 just checking in and sending more hugs, Cully. Havoc Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cully Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share Posted July 27, 2012 Hi everyone. Sorry I haven't been in this thread much. I have been trying to figure out what I need to do for myself and Havok. I have spent a lot of time thinking about my little girl Connie. She was also 8 yrs old ,black. and had osteo in the same front right leg. She had her leg amuptated and made it thru surgery. I left to go home to feed my other dogs. I was only gone for 30 minutes when I got a call that she had stopped breathing. One minute I know that I'm going to have the amuptation done and then the next I just don't know. We do not have any 24hr care vets in our small town. The nearest ones are an hour or more away I have an appointment with the vet next week to talk about everything. Some of my issues are that he is only 8 yrs old and could have so much life to live. Then another part of me says he is only 8 yrs old and how much time are we going to get. Another part of me wonders at the amount of pain he will be in after surgery. I also sit and think about the fact that I have 2 girls that are 13 yrs old and have health issues. I have also been having to think about the money and time after surgery that I would need to take off. We are very busy at work. They just told this week that No vacation request will be granted for the next couple of months. I wish there was a magic pill I could take that would give me the answers that I want and need. Thank you to everyone for the good thoughts. I promise to let you know what we are going to do. Cully & Havok waiting at the bridge Connie Van Teddy & Jojo, Cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest patterpaws Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) People wrote some really thoughtful replies when I was struggling with the decision, maybe they'd be helpful to you too? http://forum.greytal...60#entry5285416 Edited July 29, 2012 by patterpaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 {{{{{{{{{{Cully & sweet boy}}}}}}}}}} I really wish things were simpler for you. If I weren't in the same boat for vacation I would offer to have him recover here. Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissn333 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Hugs, Cully. Remember though...Connie broke her leg-her body was already in distress by the time she got to the operating table. A planned surgery would entail presurgical bloodwork, etc to make sure that Mr. Havok would handle surgery before they put him under. The timing is never great, and he would need to be monitored the night after surgery at least. Pinky was 8 when she was diagnosed... On August 7th, it will be 9 months since her surgery and she is fine She experienced little to no major pain after surgery...a few whimpers here and there. The palliative options are pretty good nowadays, but, I don't know if they're available where you are. If you want to do pamidronate, you could always have your vet call Dr. Thompson at Kimberly Crest-he did Sutra's pamidronate and did Pinky's IV chemo. Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachosMom Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 ((((hugs)))) to you and Havoc. It is the worst thing to have to decide and I still have moments I doubt my decision with Macho but I know I chose what is right for us. Mom to Macho (JS XtremeMachine 1/12/2007 -8/17/2012 ... Gotcha day 9/2/2011. I miss you BigMan)Moonbeam (Ninos Full Moon 11/1/2009, Gotcha day 9/2/2012), Hattie (Kiowa Hats Off 4/14/2011, Gotcha day 10/13/2012), Keiva (JS Igotyourbooty 1/12/2007, Gotcha Day 1/8/2014)Jimmy (Blu Too James 06/26/2014, Gotcha day 09/12/2015), a shepard mix named Tista, some cats, and some reptiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cashie Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'm so sorry you have to go through this. I know that during my decision making process it really helped to read of other experiences with the different options. I also went back and forth, one day I would plan to take our savings and rush Cash down to Ohio State for his amp, the next day I would decide on palliative care for him. It really helped to take emotions out of the equation and just look at the facts. Cash was not a good candidate for the surgery for many reasons. He always had a rough time recovering from simple dental cleanings. I was reminded of this again after his biopsy. My gentle, sweet dog tried to bite me several times afterwards and took about a week to get back to normal. He has had problems with going up and down stairs for several years, even before the cancer and we can't get in or out of the house without climbing a few. My husband made two different ramps for him after the biopsy and he kept jumping over them. Cash refused to let us pick him up or even help him walk. If we tried he would get nervous and fight to get away from us. Of course I would forget all of this from time to time after seeing stories like Tristan's and I would once again try to persuade myself to change my mind. Its so much harder when all of the outcomes eventually lead to the same end and you have to make the decision as to how they get there, without any guarantees in regards to how much time they will have to do it. Looking back I don't regret the decision I made with Cash. In the beginning I'll admit I made it out of selfishness-I wasn't ready to let him go. We had a wonderful two months to thoroughly enjoy every minute we had with him, two more months to make sure he knew we loved him. I still wasn't ready to let him go when we did and his last few days were the hardest few days of my life, but I could at least justify my decision with physical evidence and know that I was doing what was best for him. Good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Thinking about you and Havok, Cully. Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 it's such a very, very tough decision. What ever the decision is, it is made out of love, and that's what really matters. I wish I lived closer to help, and didn't have everything going on with Nube sending more hugs to you all. Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest patterpaws Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I guess I wanted to add that I didn't want to influence your decision either way, I hope I didn't come across that way... I just wrote the above comment since it helped me to read about other people's decision making processes. Continuing to think about you and send love and support to you and Havok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) just checking in, and sending more hugs to you and Havoc (and Gracie, Allie and Biggie B too ) Edited July 28, 2012 by RaineysMom Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Hoping Havok is doing well and enjoying the day. Keeping you and your boy in my thoughts. Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaB Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Just checking in. You know I'm here--and can be there--if/when you need it. Lisa...sharing the journey with my best friend, Kevin, and our four greyhounds:Littermates Sweetie* & Spicy (Possible Betsy, Possible Edna), Moody* (Jr's Moody Man), and Dragon (Kiowa Dragonfire) *Gone to wait for us at the Rainbow Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cully Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 We are hanging in there. I meet with our vet on Wed to talk about everything. waiting at the bridge Connie Van Teddy & Jojo, Cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissn333 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinw Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 You both continue to be i my thoughts... Xavi the galgo and Peter the cat. Missing Iker the galgo ?-Feb.9/19, Treasure (USS Treasure) April 12/01-May 6/13, Phoenix (Hallo Top Son) Dec.14/99-June 4/11 and Loca (Reko Swahili) Oct.9/95 - June 1/09, Allen the boss cat, died late November, 2021, age 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies_Dad Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Thinking of both you and Havoc. Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_the4pack Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 How far are you from OSU? They will keep Havoc for several days, so you don't have to worry about taking care of him until he's ready. They have the Greyhound health and wellness which can help with bills They also have support groups that will allow you to stay over at someone's house to help keep bills down. And I know it was offered to me, someone might also be willing to help watch over Havoc while you are back at work until you can pick him up. Contact JoeJoesMom for more details on that last part. And as far as pain.....2 weeks for the surgical pain to disappear and that's it! I chose amp for a 12 yr old. She had a happy painfree 6 months. Good luck. I know how hard a decision this is. I doubted myself for a long time until I saw how happy and re-adjusted she was. I have no doubts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissn333 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Any updates??? Kristin in Moline, IL USA with Ozzie (MRL Crusin Clem), Clarice (Clarice McBones), Latte and Sage the IGs, and the kitties: Violet and Rose Lovingly Remembered: Sutra (Fliowa Sutra) 12/02/97-10/12/10, Pinky (Pick Me) 04/20/03-11/19/12, Fritz (Fritz Fire) 02/05/01 - 05/20/13, Ace (Fantastic Ace) 02/05/01 - 07/05/13, and Carrie (Takin the Crumbs) 05/08/99 - 09/04/13. A cure for cancer can't come soon enough.-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 sending more hugs to Havoc and you :grouphug Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgrey Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Keeping you and Havok in my thoughts. Cynthia, & Cristiano, galgoAlways in my heart: Frostman Newdawn Frost, Keno Jet Action & Chloe (NGA racing name unknown), Irys (galgo), Hannah (weim), Cruz (galgo), & Carly CW Your Charming Princess http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=1018857 "It came to me that every time I lose a dog they take a piece of my heart with them. And every new dog who comes into my life, gifts me with a piece of their heart. If I live long enough, all the components of my heart will be dog, and I will become as generous and loving as they are." -- Unknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cully Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Sorry, I haven't sent out an update for a while. After talking to the vet. We have choosen not to do the amputation. It has been the HARDEST choice to make. I have gone back and forth about this. One minute I know that I'm going to have the surgery done and the next I just don't know. I have had such bad experiences with my hounds having osteo and having surgery. I have lost both of them. Van only made it 4 days after and Connie didn't even make it 8 hrs. I know that they both had different problems but, I still can't help but think about this. We are going to keep him as comfy as possible for as long as possible. I will keep you posted on what is going on. Thanks for the on going prayers, Cully & Havok waiting at the bridge Connie Van Teddy & Jojo, Cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45MPHK9 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Thinking about you and Havok, Cully. I hope that Havok has many more good days ahead. Tricia with Kyle, our senior mutt dog Always missing Murray Maldives, Bee Wiseman, River, Hopper, Kaia, and Holly Oaks Holly“You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.“ -Bob Dylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Anything you need, you have only to ask. Best ear noogies to handsome black boy, and to his sisters and brother too. Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyPoopon Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I hope Havoc is around to enjoy parties for a long while. Standard Poodle Daisy (12/13) Missing Cora (RL Nevada 5/99-10/09), Piper (Cee Bar Easy 2/99-1/10), Tally (Thunder La La 9/99-3/10), Edie (Daring Reva 9/99-10/12), Dixie (Kiowa Secret Sue 11/01-1/13), Jessie (P's Real Time 11/98-3/13), token boy Graham (Zydeco Dancer 9/00-5/13), Cal (Back Already 12/99-11/13), Betsy (Back Kick Beth 11/98-12/13), Standard Poodles Minnie (1/99-1/14) + Perry (9/98-2/14), Annie (Do Marcia 9/03-10/14), Pink (Miss Pinky Baker 1/02-6/15), Poppy (Cmon Err Not 8/05-1/16), Kat (Jax Candy 5/05-5/17), Ivy (Jax Isis 10/07-7/21), Hildy (Braska Hildy 7/10-12/22), Opal (Jax Opal 7/08-4/23). Toodles (BL Toodles 7/09-4/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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