6greyhounds Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) { just adopted a broodie that cannot be bathed, I know some faint during baths but this is a little different Took her to PetSmart to be bathed, she collapsed and scared the living daylights out of everyone including the resident vet who detected a murmur that my vet missed Left PetSmart and went to my vet where he checked her over and also heard the murmur I asked if the soap could be rinsed off and the vet tech used tepid water and she collapsed again with the vet present Vet did an EKG and it was determined that she needed an echo cardiogram, which I am waiting for them to schedule She did have two litters one was 5 pups who are 18 months old and the otherwas 3 pups who are 3 months old. I have been unable to get her vet records but my vet is now trying Has any one else had their pup have these episodes when trying to bathe them Edited December 7, 2014 by 6greyhounds Quote It is better to have loved and lostThan never to have loved at allMissing my Big Blue eyed Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_rooly Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Aston fainted when I tried to use somewhat-warm water to bathe him in a bathtub. He revived fine on his own once the water was cooled to barely lukewarm. After that, I bathed him outside using water from my garden hose, but not on days when the water would be very cold.This is a very common (but still scary!) phenomenon with greyhounds.I have heard that mild murmurs are also common with greys. Quote every day a tiny adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6greyhounds Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 water was not warm but tepid. She is the first one that did this and I have been involved with greys since 1995 Quote It is better to have loved and lostThan never to have loved at allMissing my Big Blue eyed Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINMANPDX Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 It''s scary when that happens! In my experience with my two, and from what I've noticed at local greyhound-wash fundraisers I've volunteered at, the water temperature being too warm seems to cause this. Quote Theresa (Tess) Mom to Elliott (Sol Flasher) and Lea (PTL Lea) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hope all turns out to be well, or at least easily managed! FWIW, I don't use even tepid water anymore for most hounds. More on the cool side, at least for indoor bathing. They all seem to do better when they can be bathed outdoors, where they can move around a bit more and their feet can stay in the cool grass, but that's not feasible in our (or your!) climate in winter. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobesmom Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I wouldn't worry too much yet. Heart murmurs are not that uncommon. I have one and 50% of my Dr's and nurses don't hear it. I have no issues. It may or may not have any impact on your dog's fainting. I will also say that a new dog being bathed may collapse repeatedly for no medical reason. Relax - it's probably just new-dog stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maria Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Greys are the ultimate in sensitivity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Both things are quite common in greys. I almost always use cold water from the hose outside for baths, but we don't bath very often. Most greys have some sort of heart murmur, as well, and live long lives without any treatment (though some are serious enough to require medication). If your vet isn't familiar with them he may be more concerned than he needs to be. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shanesmom Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I took Ace to petco for a bath a few days after I adopted him and he scared them too when he collapsed. And he pooped everywhere at the same time. He had not been pooping well on a leash yet and I think he couldn't hold it in any more with the warm water. Then he wouldn't walk on his own on the shiny floor. He had walked in but wouldn't walk out. He's a big boy. The girls carried him to me and once on the rug he stood up. They earned the nice tip I gave them that's for sure. The only baths he's gotten since then have been in the summer in the yard and he's been ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Ditto what everyone has already said. I wouldn't spend a lot of money investigating a heart problem. Just don't bath her again (and for what it's worth, being new to you, taken to a strange place, and bathed by a total stranger probably didn't help) and it's kind of a non-issue. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobesmom Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Don't spend a lot of money on vet-tests. Your dog is probably fine. Go home, and enjoy your dog. People who aren't used to greys panic a LOT. Vets included. Greys "normal" everything is quite different than other dogs' normal. So a non-grey-savvy person will freak out at what is normal for a grey. Most likely - your dog is fine. Don't spend $$$ to find that out. If she's not and she has a serious heart condition - there's probably nothing you can do to fix it. Love your dog - and if she has a heart-attack in a year..... that's the cards she was dealt. Step back. RELAX. And enjoy your dog. Make sure she has a good life. It might be 1 year or 10. We never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6greyhounds Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 so far so good, one thing though is a limp that she has when she wakes up from sleeping, does not last long, wondering if the foot/leg goes to sleep on her, it is the right front leg. Still have not gotten records from tht et in W, Virginia, not even to my vet Quote It is better to have loved and lostThan never to have loved at allMissing my Big Blue eyed Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maria Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Don't spend a lot of money on vet-tests. Your dog is probably fine. Go home, and enjoy your dog. People who aren't used to greys panic a LOT. Vets included. Greys "normal" everything is quite different than other dogs' normal. So a non-grey-savvy person will freak out at what is normal for a grey. Most likely - your dog is fine. Don't spend $$$ to find that out. If she's not and she has a serious heart condition - there's probably nothing you can do to fix it. Love your dog - and if she has a heart-attack in a year..... that's the cards she was dealt. Step back. RELAX. And enjoy your dog. Make sure she has a good life. It might be 1 year or 10. We never know. Totally agree!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF_in_Georgia Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Ohio State newsletter about heart issues in greyhounds: http://vet.osu.edu/assets/pdf/hospital/bloodBank/wellness/newsletters/2008/ghwpNewsletterSummer2008 Quote Kathy and Q (CRT Qadeer from Fuzzy's Cannon and CRT Bonnie) and Jane (WW's Aunt Jane from Trent Lee and Aunt M); photos to come. Missing Silver (5.19.2005-10.27.2016), Tigger (4.5.2007-3.18.2016), darling Sam (5.10.2000-8.8.2013), Jacey-Kasey (5.19.2003-8.22.2011), and Oreo (1997-3.30.2006) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6greyhounds Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 thank you for the information, will print for my vet Quote It is better to have loved and lostThan never to have loved at allMissing my Big Blue eyed Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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