Guest bonscoby Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Is it true that a dog with osteo in his leg/shoulder would have to be put under if he trips and gets a fracture??????????????? I can't imagine having to do that if Coby is still fine in other ways....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HeatherDemps Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I think the only option would be amputation in that case.... not an expert but having gone through osteo with Dempsey, prior to his surgery, the fracturing of his leg was a fear of mine... It is my understanding that osteo eats at the bone basically from the inside out and that if the leg fractures in that spot, there is no way to repair it unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGreys Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I'm so sorry to not have any advice here, but please know you are all in my prayers Quote Missing my little Misty who took a huge piece of my heart with her on 5/2/09, and Ekko, on 6/28/12 For the sick, the lost, and the homeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey14me Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I think you need to take as many precautions as you can that that doesn't happen. make sure he's not doing any jumping on and off of furniture...make sure there are no slippery floors...basically treat him like glass, because that really is just a worst case scenario :hope Quote Michelle...forever missing her girls, Holly 5/22/99-9/13/10 and Bailey 8/1/93-7/11/05 Religion is the smile on a dog...Edie Brickell Wag more, bark less :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xan Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Yikes. What a horrible choice to have to make. My heart goes out to you... :bighug Quote My Inspirations: Grey Pogo, borzoi Katie, Meep the cat, AND MY BELOVED DH!!!Missing Rowdy, Coco, Brilly, Happy and Wabi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVED2 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 If it has moved from the leg into the shoulder then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Probably, yes. But listen to Michelle (grey14me). Just wanted to add: my friend is going through the same thing with her greyhound girl and is not amputating. Sending you hugs, Bonnie. :grouphug Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MySkye Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 No other option for Skye, once the fracture happened and confirmation that the cancer had spread. My heart goes out to you and the road ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FrostyBottoms Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Bonnie...I have no answers but wanted you to know that I'm thinking of you and your precious boy Coby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KennelMom Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I would agree with your vet. We opted to put Casino to sleep before she seriously risked a bone break. I've been told Osteo is an extremely painful disease. I can't imagine how painful it would be for a bone to actually break because of deterioration from osteo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Is it true that a dog with osteo in his leg/shoulder would have to be put under if he trips and gets a fracture? Yes. There are probably a very few exceptions where the cancer hasn't spread in any detectable way; you could amputate at that point (assuming the cancer is in an amputatable location). Often, tho, the cancer has already spread. Those are the only two choices you'd have at that point -- put to sleep or, in some rare cases, amputate. There's no way to repair bone that's being affected by cancer. Most people find that the pain becomes unmanageable before the leg breaks. None of those prospects are pleasant, are they? Best to be prepared, tho, for your boy's sake and your own sanity. Lots of hugs. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Bonnie, I know nothing about osteo except what I have read here so no experience , but wanted you to know that I am thinking of you and do often. You and everyone are in my prayers at this terrible time. Please know you are in our hearts. Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MorganKonaAlex Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Yes. We found out Morgan had osteo when his leg broke. The ortho Vet told us it would be impossible to repair the leg. The choice was euthanize or amputate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BradyzMommy Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I would agree with your vet. We opted to put Casino to sleep before she seriously risked a bone break. I've been told Osteo is an extremely painful disease. I can't imagine how painful it would be for a bone to actually break because of deterioration from osteo. I have also heard that it is very painful for the animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazehund Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Yes. We found out Morgan had osteo when his leg broke. The ortho Vet told us it would be impossible to repair the leg. The choice was euthanize or amputate. Exactly. If the leg breaks ( as Kia's did) there is no bone there to repair. We let our girl go. I am sorry you are dealing with this Bonnie. It stinks. Trust me , I know. Hugs to you and Coby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jettcricket Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Dealing with Cricket's osteo (lower hip area) I have to be so careful with her and Dave. Dave is big (88 lbs.), strong and clumsy. I feel so bad at times, cause when he gets excited sometimes he bumps into her and I find myself constantly yelling at him. It's not his fault, he doesn't understand. I do treat my girl with kid gloves and try to be so careful with her. It sucks.....it really sucks. I'm so sorry that your dealing with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mommydog Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 As far as I know the bone goes like a honeycomb, so if it breaks then no it won't heal. The best thing to do is as grey14me said and try to minimize his chances of slipping or falling. I wouldn't let him out in the yard alone either Bonnie, just stick to gentle leash walking. I know this sounds lousy and don't mean to upset you, but once you've got over the shock a bit, try to give some thought about how you want things to be when the time comes. Whether you want Coby to be at home or at the vets, and how you want things to go afterwards. I went through cancer with my first dog, Pip, and I'm glad I planned things out beforehand, as I was too upset to be making decisions at the time, and in the end it was as good as something like that can be. Besides which I feel it gives you a sense of having a little control, you may not be able to influence the disease, but you can ensure the passing is as dignified and peaceful as possible. Love Angie :grouphug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhndz Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Bonnie, this is so devastating for you, and so many of us have lived this same nightmare. I've lost 3 to osteo. Charming had osteo at the proximal humerus (shoulder). She was fairly comfortable on Tramadol or Tylenol #3, but I arrived home one night to find her agitated, panting, obviously in severe pain. It was clear to me that she had fractured while I was at work. (don't even ask about the guilt I still feel to this day that she had to suffer) Osteo pain is very bad, but the pain of the fracture is unbearable for them. As Batmom and the others have said, this is a fracture which cannot heal, and the pain will never subside. It would be inhumane to not euthanize under those circumstances, and to do so immediately. As soon as I saw Charming that night, I knew that all I could do for her was take away her pain. My vet told me to load her up with everything and anything I had for pain/sedation, so I gave her enough Tramadol and benadryl to snow her for the trip to the vet's. I carried her to my car, drove her to the vet's, and my vet came right out to the car and, with Charming's favorite music playing, let her go. Do everything in your power to keep him safe, and prevent any stress on that leg, but if he fractures, you'll know in your heart that you have no choice about what you need to do. Jordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bonscoby Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Thank you, everybody, for all the information. I still can't believe this is happening.... All I can do is cry..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tammara Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I am so very sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aggie94 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I'm so sorry. I know what you are going through. We knew Zak had oseto and he broke his leg just rounding the corner in the kitchen. Hugs to you and Coby. Give him lots of kisses and hugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pipi5 Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I agree with Angie...I didn't have time with either Dear or Bool with their cancer to think ahead of what I wanted to do. I think in your heart, you'll know when Coby has had enough, he'll let you know...your bond is too strong. Just remember, we're all right here with you through to the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerlinsMum Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I agree with Angie...I didn't have time with either Dear or Bool with their cancer to think ahead of what I wanted to do. I think in your heart, you'll know when Coby has had enough, he'll let you know...your bond is too strong. Just remember, we're all right here with you through to the end... What Hilda said. :cry1 Quote Kerry with Lupin in beautiful coastal Maine. Missing Pippin, my best friend and sweet little heart-healer 2013-2023 Also missing the best wizard in the world, Merlin, and my sweet 80lb limpet, Sagan, every single day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KRKWMU Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) No advice, but we're thinking about you and pulling for Coby. Edited September 19, 2008 by KRKWMU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longdogs Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I have to agree with what others have said. If you've ever seen the affected bone you would know it could never heal. It would also be exceedingly painful. The only thing you can do to try to prevent this happening is to use a drug like Fosamax. I used it with Nugget but didn't have her long enough to say if it worked. Some people have had a degree of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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