Charlies_Dad Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Stewie was accidentally let out only 15 minutes after eating his dinner and he ran around like crazy. I know the symptoms of bloat but is there anything that can be done to hopefully prevent it? Right now I have him laying down on his bed and he's breathing is slowing down but not panting. Quote Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissy Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 There's nothing really to do at this point except keep an eye on him. I also wouldn't let him drink too much at one go. Monitor him for any clinical signs of bloat, but honestly... my dogs have run around after eating several times and nothing bad has ever happened. I don't think ex-racers are really all THAT prone. Which isn't to say that we shouldn't be careful about when we exercise them in relation to eating, but I don't get too worked up about it. My rule is at least an hour on either side of a meal, but as I mentioned I've had some accidental zoomies happen after eating. Quote Kristie and the Apex Agility Greyhounds: Kili (ATChC AgMCh Lakilanni Where Eagles Fly RN IP MSCDC MTRDC ExS Bronze ExJ Bronze ) and Kenna (Lakilanni Kiss The Sky RN MADC MJDC AGDC AGEx AGExJ). Waiting at the Bridge: Retired racer Summit (Bbf Dropout) May 5, 2005-Jan 30, 2019 Like us on Facebook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies_Dad Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Thanks Kristie. Right now my heart is in my stomach as I know the survival rates of a dog with bloat are not good. I'm currently sitting with him and working and will continue to monitor and he is resting comfortably. Quote Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 There's nothing really to do at this point except keep an eye on him. I also wouldn't let him drink too much at one go. Monitor him for any clinical signs of bloat, but honestly... my dogs have run around after eating several times and nothing bad has ever happened. I don't think ex-racers are really all THAT prone. Which isn't to say that we shouldn't be careful about when we exercise them in relation to eating, but I don't get too worked up about it. My rule is at least an hour on either side of a meal, but as I mentioned I've had some accidental zoomies happen after eating. Ditto. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Just keep a close eye on him. I think most of us will have occasionally had our Greys sneak out and do random zoomies in the backyard after eating. If you are actually worried then giving human anti-gas medication with Simeticone in it should help. What that does is prevent the tiny bubbles from frothing up together and instead only allows larger bubbles that pass along much more easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest k9soul Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I don't think there is any prevention one can do at the time they do what is felt to be risky behavior, but there is a procedure called gastropexy that is thought to reduce the chances. This is when the stomach is tacked to the abdominal wall so it cannot shift or twist. I haven't done personal research on the effectiveness of it, but before I got Rudy he apparently had it done when he was already in surgery for a foreign body removal. I still try to generally follow the normal precautions though. This isn't advice to have it done, but more of a general information thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJane Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Do you feed once a day or twice. IMHO, the less amount in their stomach, the less chance of a problem if they start running. I also try and get them to let off some steam about 2 hours before eating, less chance of them doing it after eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies_Dad Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 We feed twice a day, early morning and late afternoon. So far Stewie is doing fine and hopefully he'll continue this way. We normally only let him out 90+ minutes after feeding. Angie (our Pug) got him going and once I realized he was outside and running, I got him in immediately and calmed him down. Quote Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaineysMom Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 you had to know I'd chime in here! both Nube AND Rainey bloated. Nube in 2006 and Rainey in either 2008 or 2009, getting fuzzy now. We ALWAYS were careful about the no running 1 hour before/2 hours after and fed (until Nube bloated) in the morning and in the evening (after he bloated we went to 3 x day, 5:30am, 1:30pm and 6:30pm). With Nube, he had last eaten at 5:30am and we left the house around 9:30am and when we got back (an hour later) he had thrown up in his crate -- and it smelled terrible, like feces (he was a poop eater so I thought he may have gotten into some, even muzzled). He "seemed" fine, but vomited again about 1/2 later. I thought maybe his tummy was just empty so I fed him a 1/2 cup of kibble. I said to Bruce if he threw that up, he'd need a vet visit. Well, he did, so off he went. I told Bruce to make sure they took an x-ray. They waited 15 minutes, got in, doctor didn't think much was going on, and Bruce insisted on the x-ray. 5 minutes later he comes rushing in the office saying Nube was bloating. Luckily, he hadn't tortioned much yet. Long story long, they opened him up, fixed him up, and did the gastroplexy while they were in there. Other than the vomiting, I saw NO other signs of bloat (stomach bloated, quizzicly looking at their belly, etc.). He had NOT run or done anything after eating that morning. Tragically enough, when we transported him to the e-vet (to watch him for the night) there was another dog owner paying his bill for his dog -- a Pointer that bloated -- and did not make it. I felt SO thankful Nube was so lucky. with Rainey, she had had a couple bouts of pancreatitus. So, one Sunday (Superbowl Sunday, actually, and we had a bunch of people over) I could tell something was wrong. She could NOT get comfortable on her bed, kept getting up and stretching out, did the looking at her stomach stuff. She eventually settled down after about 4 hours (I was worried sick). The next day, I stayed home from work and did not feed her her morning breakfast (withholding food for 24 hours is the usual treatment for pancreatitus, which is what I thought was going on). She was 100% FINE all day long. I fed her at 6:30 and within 45 minutes was back doing the same thing as the night before. We took her to the evet where they determined she too, had bloat. She had the same surgery Nube did at 1:00am. Same with her, no running or anything before after. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to why they get bloat. Surely, to try to NOT let them run hard before or after eating sure can't hurt. Several times Zeke has done the same thing RIGHT after eating and so far no issues. I just would suggest keeping an eye on them if they do -- if they start bloating you should know. We were SO lucky with both. as a side note, a good friend of ours had a greyhound/lab mix -- she came home -- he was fine -- fed him, went out to the store for 20 minutes and came home to a bloated dog. Unfortunately he did not make it. Quote Kim and Bruce - with Rick (Rick Roufus 6/30/16) and missing my sweet greyhound Angels Rainey (LG's Rainey 10/4/2000 - 3/8/2011), Anubis (RJ's Saint Nick 12/25/2001 - 9/12/12) and Zeke (Hey Who Whiz It 4/6/2009 - 7/20/2020) and Larry (PTL Laroach 2/24/2007 - 8/2/2020) -- and Chester (Lab) (8/31/1990 - 5/3/2005), Captain (Schipperke) (10/12/1992 - 6/13/2005) and Remy (GSP) (?/?/1998 - 1/6/2005) at the bridge"Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." -- Ernest Hemmingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Stewie is probably fine if nothing has happened by now. You can give an anti-gas treatment, if you have it on hand. Truthfully, most research is pointing to genetics rather than any physical factors as increasing the likelihood for bloating. Dude often did zoomies after dinner and he never had any problems. The gas build-up in the stomach is quite bad, as it can put pressure on the other organs, including the heart. But it's the torsion aspect of bloat that usually causes death. The stomach fills with gas an flips over on itself, trapping whatever is in the stomach and cutting off the blood flow through the digestive system. The tissues begin to die very quickly, and once that starts it's hard to recover. One of our Great Danes bloated, had the surgery, and lived for 8 more years. The trick is in getting treatment as soon as poosible. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytkidsmom Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Hope your Stewie is okay - unintentional post-meal zoomies worry us too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about it. Activity after eating hasn't been shown to be a risk factor for GDV. Interestingly, there's a study that even showed that dogs who played with other dogs and ran the fenceline after eating seemed less likely to get GDV. There have been lots of theories about what causes 'bloat' but the only really consistent factors identified seem to be genetics and stress. And while AKC greyhounds do seem prone to GDV, it isn't that common in NGA greyhounds. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22657929 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9138229 Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racindog Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 you had to know I'd chime in here! both Nube AND Rainey bloated. Nube in 2006 and Rainey in either 2008 or 2009, getting fuzzy now. We ALWAYS were careful about the no running 1 hour before/2 hours after and fed (until Nube bloated) in the morning and in the evening (after he bloated we went to 3 x day, 5:30am, 1:30pm and 6:30pm). With Nube, he had last eaten at 5:30am and we left the house around 9:30am and when we got back (an hour later) he had thrown up in his crate -- and it smelled terrible, like feces (he was a poop eater so I thought he may have gotten into some, even muzzled). He "seemed" fine, but vomited again about 1/2 later. I thought maybe his tummy was just empty so I fed him a 1/2 cup of kibble. I said to Bruce if he threw that up, he'd need a vet visit. Well, he did, so off he went. I told Bruce to make sure they took an x-ray. They waited 15 minutes, got in, doctor didn't think much was going on, and Bruce insisted on the x-ray. 5 minutes later he comes rushing in the office saying Nube was bloating. Luckily, he hadn't tortioned much yet. Long story long, they opened him up, fixed him up, and did the gastroplexy while they were in there. Other than the vomiting, I saw NO other signs of bloat (stomach bloated, quizzicly looking at their belly, etc.). He had NOT run or done anything after eating that morning. Tragically enough, when we transported him to the e-vet (to watch him for the night) there was another dog owner paying his bill for his dog -- a Pointer that bloated -- and did not make it. I felt SO thankful Nube was so lucky. with Rainey, she had had a couple bouts of pancreatitus. So, one Sunday (Superbowl Sunday, actually, and we had a bunch of people over) I could tell something was wrong. She could NOT get comfortable on her bed, kept getting up and stretching out, did the looking at her stomach stuff. She eventually settled down after about 4 hours (I was worried sick). The next day, I stayed home from work and did not feed her her morning breakfast (withholding food for 24 hours is the usual treatment for pancreatitus, which is what I thought was going on). She was 100% FINE all day long. I fed her at 6:30 and within 45 minutes was back doing the same thing as the night before. We took her to the evet where they determined she too, had bloat. She had the same surgery Nube did at 1:00am. Same with her, no running or anything before after. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to why they get bloat. Surely, to try to NOT let them run hard before or after eating sure can't hurt. Several times Zeke has done the same thing RIGHT after eating and so far no issues. I just would suggest keeping an eye on them if they do -- if they start bloating you should know. We were SO lucky with both. as a side note, a good friend of ours had a greyhound/lab mix -- she came home -- he was fine -- fed him, went out to the store for 20 minutes and came home to a bloated dog. Unfortunately he did not make it. Similar to my Slim. Came home he was fine. A few short hours later he had left-bloat/GDV. Just that quick. Really very few symptoms per se. Had I not been an overly protective mother hen I would not even have gone to e vet when I did. He was just off; I actually thought maybe he had just over heated a little. As a result he was there very early in the occurence but it didn't make any difference in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies_Dad Posted October 23, 2013 Author Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thank you everyone. Stewie is fine thankfully and we've always been so careful about no activity just before or after eating, it just scared us. Quote Kyle with Stewie ('Super C Ledoux, Super C Sampson x Sing It Blondie) and forever missing my three angels, Jack ('Roy Jack', Greys Flambeau x Miss Cobblepot) and Charlie ('CTR Midas Touch', Leo's Midas x Hallo Argentina) and Shelby ('Shari's Hooty', Flying Viper x Shari Carusi) running free across the bridge. Gus an coinnich sinn a'rithist my boys and little girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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