Guest masa Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) I talked to our vet about Swirls storm fears, she is so scared she is to the point that she could really hurt herself, so he recommended Acepromazine (AEC), has anyone ever used this before? and or liked or disliked how it worked? On another topic about storms that I had posted, some said they used it and others said they didn't like it because of the sedative type quality. Our vet gave us 25 mg. Wouldn't all medicine for storm phobia have a sedative quality? Im at a loss Thanks guys Edited March 30, 2012 by masa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 If you do a search on here for that you'll see most people don't like it. The dog may appear knocked out by it but they can still sense, and be terrified, by the storm. Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Rita the podenco maneta, Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I used it for a little bit for Tootsie because she was going to kill herself. I really dislike ace and once her thyroid was supplemented (we did tests), the Calm Spirit started working again. Most people I know use either Xanax or valium with good results. Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) I have used it in SMALL doses. My dogs have taken it in 5mg and 2.5mg doses. Most vets recommend WAY too much. My dogs sleep on 5mg of it, and if needed, they can get up to eat and go outside if it's not storming. Now having said all that, some dogs don't do so well with it. I've never had a dog have an adverse reaction to it. Some people hate ACE, but for me for very severe storms it works very well in the 5mg range. My original vet recommended I think 20mgs of it, and that was WAY WAY too much, my dog slept for hours and hours and wouldn't budge for almost 15 hours. So I would never give that amount unless we had worked up towards it and it was a life and death situation or vet controlled situation. I don't use it often anymore. I tend to use benedryl or the generic form, diphenhydramine HCL. My dogs take 100mgs of this. The average dose is 1mg per pound of your dogs body weight. Most greyhounds fall into the 50mg dose. And it helps a lot for storms and for separation anxiety here. My dogs take 100mgs and that was approved by their vet, in fact, they can have that up to 3 times a day. At first it tends to make them really sleepy, but after a while, less so. My dogs got no help from various other recommendations, including herbal meds and drops and such, nor the plug in things or the herbal collars. But my spook has horrific thunder and wind phobia along with other noise issues. And even after thyroid testing and thyroid meds, it made NO DIFFERENCE at all in her phobias. WE tried and I prayed that it would help, but it didn't. In her old age, a new vet and she's been weaned from thyroid drugs and is doing so well with good levels. But that's another whole ball of wax. Edited to add thyroid stuff. Edited March 30, 2012 by Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest masa Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Thanks guys, I was looking at this med and didnt like how they said it worked, but never having to use medicine for storms before I thought maybe I was just overreacting. From what you all have said, it really worrys me that the vet wanted to give us 25 mg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Years ago, I gave Trevor 25 mg (my LP dog) and he was out flat for 22 hours. The next time I have him half and he was out for 10 hrs. Never used it on him again. Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riverhound Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Try Xanax; it does wonders for Joe. Ace turns him into a zombie, and scares the heck out of me! Quote Masterful Joe and Naughty N Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 There are a lot better meds out there than Ace - valium and xanax come to mind. Greyhounds seem to be unusually reactive to it - a dose that would make another dog slightly slow simple puts them unconscious. Or conversely - they can also have the opposite reaction. We gave it to Dude one time after he came home ater his amp to help keep him quiet and he could not lay down for about 8 hours - just kept pacing and pacing and panting! Plus, there is the added effect that it does NOTHING to relieve their anxiety. They still feel terrified but are simply unable to react to stimuli. That's not an effective way to manage an anxiety attack. Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jettcricket Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Fortunately, I've not really had a problem with Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Ace is really not used for phobia's any longer. As already mentioned your hound may look sedated but, in fact their minds are still in a panic but, their bodys can not react-- what a horror it must be for them. May want to ask your vet about scripting you Xanax. Btw- 25mgs would knock most hounds on their butts for an extended period of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatricksMom Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Does anyone know if this is okay when paired with Xanax? I just read the bill from Patrick's stay and realized they had used it--now I'm worried he was scared in the hospital and couldn't express it. He was really sedated when we visited, but they said that was the Methadone for pain. Quote Beth, Petey (8 September 2018- ), and Faith (22 March 2019). Godspeed Patrick (28 April 1999 - 5 August 2012), Murphy (23 June 2004 - 27 July 2013), Leo (1 May 2009 - 27 January 2020), and Henry (10 August 2010 - 7 August 2020), you were loved more than you can know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marigold Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I did use it and it worked for my galgo's storm anxiety. However it began to cause major aggression in him. He ended up going after our husky mix while on it and she bit him in the head. He needed 6 stitches (it also got me a job at the vet clinic I took him to but that's another story). We now use a thundershirt and prozac during storms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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