JaneW Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Now I'm worried! Greta has been having some chronic pain/debility in her back/right hind leg. Xrays showed little or nothing and she has been getting accupunture since she doesn't tolerate meds well. She has been feeling better, I thought, but when the mutt up the street charged out and attacked her (his owners removed his shock collar months ago and he finally noticed), she barely defended herself, much less taught him a lesson. Afterward, she was nervous and upset instead of bouncing around asking if we could do it again. Quote Greyhound Fabric, Wallpaper, and Gift Wrap by Jane Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamsmom Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm a little comfused... I don't think one has anything to do with the other but I am not sure if you were wanting her to fight back? If she has been in pain and not feeling well that could have also shown in her body language. I am really sorry that she was attacked and hope that she is ok?... Did she recieve any injuries? How is her pain? Quote ~Beth, with a crazy mixed crew of misfits.~ Forever and Always missing and loving Steak, Carmen, Ivy, Isis, and Madi.Don't cry because it's ended, Smile because it happened.Before you judge me, try to keep an open mind, not everyone likes your taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGreys Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think I may be a bit confused too. You wanted her to fight back? And you think something is wrong that she didn't? Quote Missing my little Misty who took a huge piece of my heart with her on 5/2/09, and Ekko, on 6/28/12 For the sick, the lost, and the homeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonder Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I don't get it either Quote Kari and the pups.Run free sweet Hana 9/21/08-9/12/10. Missing Sparks with every breath.Passion 10/16/02-5/25/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetdogs Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 she barely defended herself, much less taught him a lesson. Did you? I'm sorry this happened to Greta, especially since she's not feeling so strong. Time for you to with the dogs owners. Quote Deirdre with Conor (Daring Pocobueno), Keeva (Kiowa Mimi Mona), & kittehs Gemma & robthomas. Our beloved angels Faolin & Liath, & kittehs Mona & Caesar. Remembering Bobby, Doc McCoy, & Chip McGrath. "He feeds you, pets you, adores you, collects your poop in a bag. There's only one explanation: you are a hairy little god." Nick Galifinakis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Energy11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I wouldn't want ANY OF MINE to "feel" they had to defend themselves. I WOULD DO THAT FOR THEM!! Hope all is well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneW Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Sorry! I haven't been here in a while, so folks maybe don't remember Greta. Greta is a fighter--I do NOT want her to fight, but I can't always stop or avoid loose dogs. She is is always willing to teach other dogs that she is the BOSS, and if a fight occurs (I keep dog repellant on me at all times, but I didn't have a chance to use it this time), she is normally stimulated, not cowed. She was bitten, but no blood, and she was in pain, so I think her back hurt. She has a vet appt Fri anyway, so we can discuss this new symptom of her change in attitude. The other dog's owner put the shock collar back on him and asked me to walk Greta past his house to make sure his dog knew it was on him again. I won't even get into the electric fence issue... Quote Greyhound Fabric, Wallpaper, and Gift Wrap by Jane Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneW Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 And I mean she is normally thrilled even if I'm the one who tangles with the other dog! The admiration in her eyes is embarrassing! Quote Greyhound Fabric, Wallpaper, and Gift Wrap by Jane Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eaglflyt Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I would tell the other dog's owner to find someone or something else to be the shock collar guinea pig. That's just rude, IMHO, to expect you to submit your dog to a stressful situation again and to expect your dog to risk another attack. What is that person thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nerak254 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Sorry! I haven't been here in a while, so folks maybe don't remember Greta. Greta is a fighter--I do NOT want her to fight, but I can't always stop or avoid loose dogs. She is is always willing to teach other dogs that she is the BOSS, and if a fight occurs (I keep dog repellant on me at all times, but I didn't have a chance to use it this time), she is normally stimulated, not cowed. She was bitten, but no blood, and she was in pain, so I think her back hurt. She has a vet appt Fri anyway, so we can discuss this new symptom of her change in attitude. The other dog's owner put the shock collar back on him and asked me to walk Greta past his house to make sure his dog knew it was on him again. I won't even get into the electric fence issue... ASKED you to walk her by his house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek Don't think I would have, I'd be calling AC and then handing him a bill for an additional vet visit today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurnerMiller01 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 And I mean she is normally thrilled even if I'm the one who tangles with the other dog! The admiration in her eyes is embarrassing! Ok... i am still trying to understand this thread... Can you please explain ... your dog is a fighter and you fight back for the dog? And this makes the dog happy? I'm confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeForHounds Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think I understand. You're worried because Greta's behaviour is way out of character for her, is that right? It sounds like you do have a cause for concern, since you know she is already in some pain. Perhaps the pain has increased significantly. I would push your vet to look very carefuly at where her source of pain is, and to find a medication that she can tolerate. Quote Casual Bling & Hope for HoundsJanet & the hounds Maggie and Allen Missing my baby girl Peanut, old soul Jake, quirky Jet, Mama Grandy and my old Diva Miz Foxy; my angel, my inspiration. You all brought so much into my light, and taught me so much about the power of love, you are with me always.If you get the chance to sit it out or dance.......... I hope you dance! Missing our littlest girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenn8 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 (edited) Welcome back, Jane. We have another member here who's dog is named Greta and I think of you whenever I see him post. Greta's change in behavior could be from pain or she may just be getting on in age. I hope things go well at the vet. Jenn ETA: Tramadol worked well for Onyx's pain. Edited June 23, 2009 by jenn8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longdogs Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think I know what you mean. My girl Nugget was always there waiting in eager anticipation if another dog made an aggressive move on her. Most realised en route they had picked on the wrong dog and chickened-out, otherwise there was a whirlwind waiting for them. For her not to react, or to back down, would have been unusual and a sign she wasn't feeling right. I know some people believe in accupuncture for pets, but the few good experiments that have been done indicate it works on the perceptions of their owners rather than providing any real benefit. There are a range of treatment options out there. My current 11yo grey, Angel, has hip and shoulder pain that can make her life miserable. She is doing well on carprofen (Rimadyl generic). William, a previous dog who was terribly sore in all joints from auto-immune polyarthritis, did better on meloxicam. Both were much better on medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I know what you mean - you're worried because you never did get to the bottom of what was troubling her and now she's acting out-of character? I would take her back for a thorough check up and tell the vet what you've told us. IMHO, it seems she's still not feeling right by quite a long way if she's acting this much quieter than usual, and I'd want to know why, too. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racindog Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I know exactly what you mean. Slim was a FIGHTER. In fact he loved nothing more than the possibility of a good fight. For him not to have responded aggressively would have signaled something terribly terribly wrong and we would be on the way to the e-vet. a lot of folks have a hard time envisioning a greyhound so aggressive- I myself didn't think it was possible- before I met Slim. Hope she is feeling better soon! PS -I have had outstanding results with accupuncture especially where pain is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneW Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 A lot to reply to! Yes, normal behavior for Greta to try to goad other dogs into a fight. I have worked hard with her to reduce this behavior on her part, but it is the way she is, and all she has to do is raise the base of her tail a little (the dogging equivalent of the middle finger) and any other dominant dog will take offense. For those of you who have the "typical" laid-back greyhound, I can see that you might find this a bit of a shock! Accupuncture--I have my doubts since it did nothing for ME when I tried it. However, one of Greta's treatments gave instant and measurable results in increased range of motion and less favoring of the leg. That was the only one that did so. Greta is very sensitive and/or allergic to so many meds that her vet (who loves the accupuncturist and uses her himself) wanted to try it. Yes, what concerns me is her reaction was so out of character, and when I ran my hand over her to check for bites, she almost bit me! When she tangled with a groundhog last year and got her lips badly bitten, she let me swab her mouth out with disinfectant with no more reaction than making faces at the taste, so for her to nearly bite me for no visible injury is scary. She has her annual checkup on Friday, and I'm emailing my vet today to give him a heads-up. He will probably want to send her to an orthopedist. Even with pet insurance, that's going to to be a financial strain. I appreciate the sentiments regarding my neighbor! Quote Greyhound Fabric, Wallpaper, and Gift Wrap by Jane Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Energy11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Good Luck and keep us posted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TurnerMiller01 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Ok... i understand better now... i'm sorry it just didnt make sense at first.. but i think i misread your post... and I kept envisioning this mean GH and I was really confused.. but it makes sense now... and i just want to say that i hope she gets better soon.. and i hope you get to the bottom of this. keep us posted... many prayers to you and Greta... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Jane, orthopods around here are pretty spendy, but if you can make the trek out to Dr. Radcliffe in Wheeling, it's worth it. He's much less expensive than local specialists and he knows greyhounds very, very well. Hope you can get to the bottom of it Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneW Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 I really suspect it's a pinched nerve--xrays taken a couple months ago showed a slightly out-of-alignment vertebra that the vet didn't think was a problem. I only know that when MY back looked like that it WAS a problem. It may have been the root cause of the more acute symptoms she had then--it may have caused her to stumble and strain something. We have an appt for 9 am tomorrow. Quote Greyhound Fabric, Wallpaper, and Gift Wrap by Jane Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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