ChiliDog Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Joe is on a bronchodilator (Theo LA 300mg) twice a day for his chronic bronchitis and Zeniquin (an antibiotic for his pseudomonas) 150mg once a day. Last weekend (in the middle of a dinner party - naturally) he peed in the kitchen and then had a bout of *very* umm explosive Big D. I took him out right away and he had another few rounds of this explosive Big D but things seemed to have settled. (I came back to find the dinner party breaking up - wussies!) Today he's upchucked a few times and has had NO interest in food. Of course in the last bout of barf his pills lay undigested in the bile (I know I know TMI...) He just seems off, and nowhere near his usual happy goofy self When the diagnosis of pseudomonas was confirmed I asked the prescribing vet regarding the pills together and was told to keep him on the TheoLA with the Zeniquin, but Joe doesn't seem to be taking them both together very well. Since the pseudomonas is the "worse" of the two conditions, should I stop the bronchodilator until he's finished the course of antibiotics? I really hate to see him like this. And yes, I will ask my vet but it will have to wait til Monday and I really don't want to start with the EVet ("oh you'll have to bring him in for a complete check up" ka-ching!)... Thoughts for my poor barfy boy...?? Quote Donna & The League of Extraordinary Greyhounds Adoption Squad; Buffy and Rik T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinM Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Don't know a thing about this, hope you can get to the bottom of it before Monday. Quote ROBIN ~ Mom to: Beau Think It Aint, Chloe JC Allthewayhome, Teddy ICU Drunk Sailor, Elsie N Fracine , Ollie RG's Travertine, Ponch A's Jupiter~ Yoshi, Zoobie & Belle, the kitties. Waiting at the bridge Angel Polli Bohemian Ocean , Rocky, Blue,Sasha & Zoobie & Bobbi Greyhound Angels Adoption (GAA) The Lexus Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazygang Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Sending well wishes for Joe the poor sweetheart.... Hope he feels better soon Quote Run free our beloved Sir Snowy, Pip, Queenie, Sadie, Tess & Rosie until we meet again......I would rather feel the thorn than to never see the rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysmom Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Are you giving his pills before or after he eats, and does it make a difference according to his dosing instructions? If it doesn't make a difference I might try giving him pills after food to try and protect his tumtum from da nastee pillz! Or if you can give him a TUMZ, then food then pills - but check if the tumz is counterindicated with his meds first. greysmom Quote Chris - Mom to: Felicity (DeLand), and Andi (Braska Pandora) siggy by Chris Harper, on Flickr Angels: Libby (Everlast), Dorie (Dog Gone Holly), Dude (TNJ VooDoo), Copper (Kid's Copper), Cash (GSI Payncash), Toni (LPH Cry Baby), Whiskey (KT's Phys Ed), Atom, Lilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhndz Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 My first thought as to the culprit would be the Theodur (Theophylline). Theophylline toxicity can certainly present (in humans) with vomiting, diarrhea, loss of appetite, tremulousness, etc. A vet should be able to check a theo level (blood test), but I'd give serious thought to decreasing or stopping the theo until you can see your vet again. OTOH, this is on the Pfizer website of side effects for marbofloxacin: The following clinical signs were reported during clinical field studies in dogs receiving marbofloxacin at dosages up to 2.5 mg/lb daily: decreased or loss of appetite (5.4%), decreased activity (4.4%), and vomiting (2.9%). The following signs were reported in less than 1% of cases in dogs: increased thirst, soft stool/diarrhea, behavioral changes, shivering/shaking/tremors and ataxia. So, either could be the problem. This is one you really need to run by the vet - is anyone in the office on Saturday, just to discuss this with by phone? I'd be hesitant to recommend d/c'ing either an antibiotic or bronchodilator without knowing more about the medical history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest p51crazyhorse Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Poor Joe!!! he has been thru so much the poor guy, maybe he and Streamer can have a pity party together. I hope he feels better soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EmilyAnne Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I'm not familiar with any of those meds, but I can tell you what worked for my Henry who is currently on antibiotics that were making him vomit and lose his appetite. I give Henry original strength Pepcid AC 20 minutes before meal time, then I feed him, then I give him his antibiotic after he has eaten some of his food. I don't know though if original Pepcid AC conflicts with any of the meds Joe is currently on. Are you able to call your vet on weekends and check with him/her first on wether or not Pepcid AC would be OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGreys Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I'm not familiar with either med so I can't offer any advice. But I do know that Joe T Better Feel Better!!!! Quote Missing my little Misty who took a huge piece of my heart with her on 5/2/09, and Ekko, on 6/28/12 For the sick, the lost, and the homeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Sending prayers and good wishes for your little man. Quote Patti-Mommy of Lady Sophia 7-28-92 - 8-3-04... LaceyLaine 8-2-94-12-5-07... Flash Gordon 7-14-99 - 8-29-09... BrookLynne...Pavé Maria... and 18 Bridge Kids. WATCHING OVER US~SOPHIA~QUEENIE~LACEY LAINE~ CODY ANGELO~FLASH GORDON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Know nothing about the bronchodilator. Zema had a course of Zeniquin and had no difficulties (maybe slightly soft poop) but she has iron guts. When in doubt I use the method EmilyAnne describes. Hugs and best luck with your boy. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoulsMom Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I don't no anything about those meds either, but I hope Joe is feeling better riteawayquik! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greyt2love Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Oh, no. Poor Joe T. Bad Tummy, please feel better soon. I wish I had a magic answer for you, Donna, but this is not something I've had experience with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby172 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Valor, my galgo is currently taking the same meds in addition to amoxicillin for a lung infection. I have noticed looser stool, increased appetite and he peed in the house the other night, not usual for him. I give him his meds with food. Luckily Valor has not lost his appetite as he does not have any extra to lose at this point. Good luck with your boy, hope things work out and he is feeling better soon. Linda, Valor, Keeva and Bella Oh yeah, Valor is acting more lethargic and just off lately. Hard to tell if it is the meds or he's still just not feeling that great. The other factor is that he is going to be 11 and is feeling his age. No throwing up here. When Valor was sick over the summer and the meds upset his stomach I used pepcid with good results. Again, good luck. Linda, Valor, Keeva and Bella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeForHounds Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Gee, it's hard to say which one is causing the problem given the possible side effects. I'd try the pepcid for a day or so to see if that resolves things. If not, take my boy to the torturnarium. Hugs to you both. Quote Casual Bling & Hope for HoundsJanet & the hounds Maggie and Allen Missing my baby girl Peanut, old soul Jake, quirky Jet, Mama Grandy and my old Diva Miz Foxy; my angel, my inspiration. You all brought so much into my light, and taught me so much about the power of love, you are with me always.If you get the chance to sit it out or dance.......... I hope you dance! Missing our littlest girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RooCroo Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Have you tried homeopathics for the nausea? They don't interfere with prescription meds. I have had good results with Nux Vomica for nausea due to antibiotics. Feel better, Joe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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