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Thanks Nancy
. Its funny everytime I think about posting that things are finally going well after all our troubles something like this happens. I sometimes wonder if I jinx him by doing that. -
Jen, thank you for finding and posting that information.
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Could you maybe try a different NSAID, and give it with Prilosec? A few of mine don't tolerate Rimadyl but do fine with Deramaxx...Pinky takes daily without issues as well.
Hope he's back on an even keel soon!
I'm really too afraid to try any nsaids long term after the problems that they have caused him. I will give them cautiously short-term, but never long-term again.
I gave him Enzymatic Acid-Ease Saturday night and yesterday and this stuff really worked wonders. I had to force feed him yesterday morning and early evening, but by late evening he was wanting his regular kibble. His bowel movement this morning started out not formed to start, but towards the finish actually held some shape. When his stomach got messed up by the ZD it took a week of Flagyl and Sucralfate to get where his poop wasn't liquid.
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For those interested here's the link to the product used.
http://www.imyunity.com/about/
To give a general idea of cost the 4-pack given at the rate of 100mg/kg would last a 65 lb grey 32 days.
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Because you love him? Because you are trying your best to make his life more comfortable?
Can he take an nsaid as well? It is my understand that Gabapentin & regular nsaids work in 2 entirely different ways.
Perhaps the Gabapentin for back/urinary issues & an nsaid for the limp?
Hoping for a break for Nadir (and you).
****oops****just went back to reread op & saw that he is on nsaid.......
That was George that was on the Nsaids. Nsaids are what caused Nadir's original stomach issues, I suspect ulcers, in the past so he can't be put on them long term.
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If It's Not One Thing It's Another
We had about 2 good years with no peeing issues after finding out that rice was causing his problems before the incontinence started again this past November. Because food had been an issue with this in the past I immediately started with an elimination diet to determine what was causing this sudden recurrence of this problem. So after a few months I figure out fish is the problem. So I switch him to beef and only beef, nothing else added to his diet. Problem clears up for about 6 weeks only to start again. Because the recent resurgence of his problem was caused by fish and then beef I'm thinking proteins are the issue. So starts the slew of foods I go through trying to figure it out. We tried Blue Buffalo Grain-free Chicken, Blue Buffalo Basics grain-free Turkey and Potato, Nature's Recipe grain-free Chicken, Sweet Potato and Pumpkin, Nutro Natural Choice Grain-free Lamb & Potato and Turkey & Potato, Nutrisca Lamb and Chickpea, Nature's Variety Limited Ingredient Turkey, Pure Vita's Grain-free Turkey, Bison & Sweet Potato and Duck and Oatmeal, and then several different varieties of Honest Kitchen, The problem would resolve for a little while only to start again. What's funny is that with all these food changes I put him through and his past stomach problems we didn't really have any bad issues there, save for some less than desirable poops. I should mention that Nadir was also being seen by my vet who was working with me trying to figure out what was causing his problem. I also want to mention that having to clean up after him was not the problem, it was that this problem was causing him obvious distress and he was not feeling well. Then about the beginning of July I notice that a slight limp he had had was getting worse. I didn't panic and think Osteo, but I did think about problems others here on GT had had with spinal issues causing incontinence. I especially thought of George and what Susan finally figured out that resolved his problem, which was keeping him on an nsaid and gabapentin. So I make another appointment with the vet, had to see another because our regular vet was on vacation. I give her Nadir's history and tell her I think its one of two things, he's either becoming intolerant to all proteins and if so I want to try ZD or its a nerve problem clued by the limp and weakness in his rear end and for this I want to try Gabepentin. She had never prescribed it before, she knew about its use in humans, but was unfamiliar with its application in veterinary medicine. I explained to her how it was being used so she looked up some information on dosing and gave me a prescription for it. Miracle of miracles after about 3 days on Gabapentin the problem goes away and I also find a food, California Natural Grain-free Venison Meal, that produces poops in all my crew that would have many of you green with envy. Life is finally good for about 6 weeks and the peeing starts again so this time I see about seeing if intolerance to protein is an issue so I ask for prescription ZD. BIG MISTAKE. Now not only does he have incontinence issues the ZD has caused a bout of very runny diarrhea, gurgly stomach and him not wanting to eat anything. I get him started on Flagyl and Sucralfate and end up force feeding him oatmeal with Manuka honey mixed in. I finally get his stomach settled and decide to increase the Gabapentin dosage. He had been taking 100 mg
twice a day and I talk to my vet about increasing to 200mg. Well the peeing stops once again and except for his system being screwed up by the ZD and his poops being less than desirable even after Flagyl life is fairly good once again. Finally, about a week ago, he start producing good bowel movements again, but I notice he still is bothered by a limp and he always wants to cut his walks short so I stupidly decide to put him on a supplement that has Glucosamine and Chondroitin even though I've made mention in other threads that it has caused him stomach problems in the past. I thought maybe I was mistaken and if I start slowly with it all will be well. NOT! Last night he refused to eat and this morning he's got stomach grumbling that could wake the dead. I gave him some Acid-Ease early this morning and ended up force feeding him oatmeal with Manuka honey mixed in. His stomach has finally quieted down. Why, oh why, oh why after things were going fairly
well did I try something that had given him problems in the past???????
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Pinky
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I'm glad to hear you have a diagnosis that is treatable.
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If it is environmental allergies off brand Zyrtec has proven to be most beneficial for Beanie's itchiness. Beanie's feet were affected to the point she was licking them raw and was having trouble walking. Since I started her on the Zyrtec, which was recommended over benadryl for seasonal allergies in a thread in H&M she has stopped the constant licking of her chest and feet which has enabled them to heal.
It might be worth it to give it a try top see if it helps.
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It's good that he is at least eating with your help. Is there any chance the tooth might end up being extracted if it looks like the bonding isn't going to work? If so I'd be sure to have Amicar on hand in that event.
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How is Desi this morning? Are the nsaids and Tramadol starting to give the poor guy any relief yet? I think the gum numbing stuff is a good idea and might help enough to lessen the pain and encourage him to eat. Jane's advice to warm food and liquids to body temperature makes really good sense. Pain numbing thoughts being sent out to Desi.
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Jane, thank you so much for sharing this. The one big drawback is the cost. To dose Bruiser at 55mg/kg it would cost $313.00 for a 40 day supply. We just celebrated his 3 month post splenectomy anniversary and I would love for him to be part of that 10% that makes it past a year. I wonder how the outcome would be affected when given in addition to chemotherapy. He goes in a week from Tuesday for his final chemo treatment and I have to say that except for a few days of depressed appetite after his 3rd treatment he's done amazingly well. He has had some bleeds, but Yunnan Baiyao has proven to be very beneficial in keeping them under control so far. I'm not sure how much of a role all the other supplements I'm giving him are playing a part in that also, but I definitely think they are helping. I'm going to have to give this very serious consideration. I know they didn't do it in the study, but I may look at pulsing it to lessen the cost. Please consider yourself virtually hugged Jane
Jen, I would love to read that study if you can locate it. Perhaps that is also an option I can consider.
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Mary there's nothing at all silly about panicking when it comes to a health scare in ones you love. I'm glad to read though that it was not as bad as you had feared.
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Feeding mainly turkey necks and chicken backs is going to add too much bone to their diet. You need to also feed muscle meat. Chicken leg quarters are good for this. If you were to divide a whole chicken into portions and feed it all over a few days then ideally you would be giving the right proportions of muscle, bone and organs.
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Oh Kim, I am so very sorry for you
Rest sweet Nube, your pain is no more.
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Kim, ramble on all you want
. I was unclear from your post, but did he quit eating the homecooked and that is why you put him back on the kibble? Or did you try the kibble to see if he would eat it and he did for a short while? If the latter is the case I would try the homecooked again. Maybe try switching up the ingredients, if you were feeding chicken try beef. At this point you just want him to start eating again. I went through this just last year with a friend's greyhound that had a brain tumor. We tried anything and everything to get him to eat including force feeding to try to prime his appetite. One thing he did gobble down almost taking my fingers along with it was Arby's roast beef, but even that only lasted a short while 
.Are you giving him anything for his stomach aside from Sucralfate and Pepcid? If not I would suggest ginger for nausea and upset stomach. Manuka honey is also very soothing to the stomach. When Nadir won't eat it is one of the things that will get him started again.
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I'm so sorry Kim, but in my very humble and heartfelt opinion I think Nube is telling you he's tired, he hurts and he's just wants relief from the pain he's in. I know this is a very personal decision that only you can make, but pretend for a moment that Nube is not yours and your reading about his last few weeks what would you think Nube would want from what you have shared with us?
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Thank you for sharing that. Bruiser has to take 11 pills twice a day and I'm sure that amount will be increasing. I've been wrapping his pills in cheese which has worked really good, but this may be even easier.
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That would be from the bee pollen in the Fresh Factors. One of it's benefits of bee pollen is increased endurance and energy.
http://www.beepollenhub.com/bee-pollen-benefits/
Edited to correct link.
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To lose him so quickly to something one would think is treatable going in makes it that much harder. I'm so very sorry you lost your boy this way
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I've seen 'The Compounder', which seems to be a site run by pharmacists, and the way it's written there made me wonder if there was a error. One of the other links only mentions MAO inhibitors (whose interaction with aged cheese is well-established), and I can't see where the other one is coming from, but it's worded so similarly to the Compounder's info that I wonder whether one was taken from the other. Sorry if I sound nit-picking here, but it's honestly something I've never, ever heard of before, and my own vets have never given me any warnings. I personally can't find anything trustworthy on the internet about it. All of the reputable links I've found - for people or animals - have only mentioned the MAO inhibitors, and in the case of the animals, the flea/tick collars.
We all know how misleading the internet can be at times. You're probably right, but I'd like to find two or three trustworthy and up-to-date links - or hear from one of GT's vets - before I pass that info on for myself.
If it were me I'd err on the side of caution and not give the idea to the OP that aged cheese is alright to give in this instance.
. Its funny everytime I think about posting that things are finally going well after all our troubles something like this happens. I sometimes wonder if I jinx him by doing that.
, you sound absolutely adorable 
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for B9 results.
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