MaryJane

I did have thoughts that it might have been that or the ace but, I went through some of my old stuff on recommended anesthesia and what they used was protocol for greyhounds and it came from Ohio State. I thought maybe I had given them an old copy but, it looks like that is what Ohio State recommends. However, looking back on some of the threads on anesthesia, it looks like some people have had issues with Ace and the Hydro. I went back and checked what they used on my seizure dog - who didn't seem to have any issues from her dental 2 years ago. They used Butorphanol and Midazolam for pre-anes, induction was Propofol and inhalant was Sevoflurane. I left it off with the vet that I was no longer comfortable using the Ace and Hydro combination with him or any of my other greyhounds in the future.

Thank you for the links - I had read the first article but not the second.

Any information would be appreciated on the titer test and how this affected your mom's poodle. Thx.

My boy Adam went to have a dental and gum flap done last week and while the surgery went well, there was an event after (ace and hydro anesthesia). When I went to pick Adam up and the nurse brought him in - he was really stressed and panting up a storm. My first thought -- "this is not good". The vet tech/nurse was unaware that my boy was heading for a crisis. I told her to get a thermometer, cold & wet towels, and the doctor. During the next 2 hours my boy's temp spiked to 105 but we were able to cool him down and ease some of the stress with a sedative and the temperature finally went down to a bit over 100. I suppose that this also could have also been a reaction to the Ace -- however, I'm thinking that it was primarily stress. It was touch and go all night as I monitored him every 20 minutes or so just in case we had to head out to the ER. It took a bit more than 2 days for my Adam to get somewhat back to normal - during that time, I was not sure whether the high temperatures could have affected his brain. I love this vet however, she left at 4 pm that day and my dog was left in the care of the vet tech/nurse for the 2 hours until I picked him up at 6pm. She didn't notice that my dog was having a problem - I'm finding it very hard to believe that my dog went into stress overload walking from the kennel to the office where I was. The vet called me the next day and checked to see how Adam was doing and I expressed my concerns about the nurse's "lack of awareness". This same vet has done a dental on my seizure dog and treated her very well with no issues. I trust the vet completely - however and because of this situation ... not the vet tech. Having said all this -- 2 questions -- Has anyone had a similar experience after a dental and if yes, did you go back to that vet after the incident ?

Frankie, my new greyhound started out as a foster. He had some less desirable traits that would indicate the need for an experienced greyhound home and one without children. As it turned out, he fit right in with my other two and is staying. His records indicated that he was Lyme positive and treated with doxy at a previous home. Needless to say I was a bit surprised when the results of his vet visit blood work turned up Lyme negative however ... Anaplasmosis positive ... Researching as much as I can but, not finding much. His platelets are OK at about 160 and liver/kidney values OK. Would be very interested to hear if anyone has experienced this before with their greyhound and what their story is. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. It doesn't look like there is a titer test for Anaplasmosis so, I can't track whether the levels are better or not - simply whether there are antibodies present. Right now he is a happy, healthy 5 year old boy who is energetic and has a good appetite - no symptoms of any joint/leg pains. I do plan on doing full blood work every year to track platelets.

It could be a seizure especially since you are describing the lip licking/drooling that can typically occur with a seizure. I suppose it could also be described as a neurological event - maybe a slight blockage of one of her brain vessels. Make sure you note the date and time it occurred as well as general notes about what happened. Sometimes the legs hyper-extend without the kicking and could also involve a hunched position.

I'm so sorry for your loss of Stan - he was a beautiful boy. My thoughts are with him today.

You mentioned that the food bowls are close even though one of your dogs is in the crate, The bed was also close. I'm going to suggest that you place the food bowls for each of the dogs far away from each other - the same with dog beds. The greyhound is new, keeping him so close with the other dog could be making him more anxious than he needs to be as he may be feeling that he needs to protect his food/bed. Eventually, the greyhound will feel more comfortable and the behavior may lessen.

My Lucy has IBD which was caused by one of her seizure meds. She is on B12 shots and at the beginning was also on probiotics. She is on a home-made diet (not raw) which has white fish (tilipia) as the protein and that has helped tremendously. She also gets veggies, rice, oatmeal and a few other snacks during the day. The oatmeal is very good for adding fiber. The internist and I discussed whether to use meds for the IBD and we both felt that she was already on too many meds (3) for the seizures and decided to try the route of fish only protein diet, B12, and Probiotics. It has been more than 2 years and she is stable and gained back the weight that she lost. I would suggest not using any chicken - cooked or otherwise as they treat chickens with antibiotics and with mass production - they are contaminated with bacteria (they used to dip chickens in bleach - don't know if they do that anymore). You can get tilapia at Walmart (sourced in China which is not great) for about $12 for 4 pounds which is a great price.

This could be getting into pet food... http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-corn-toxins-exclusive-idUSKBN17N2M5?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter

It's not clear from the thread - have you brought him into the ER vet ? If not, a trip is probably in order as he might still be bleeding. Good luck edited to add .. might I suggest that you check to see if the microchip may have been placed badly and is causing bleeding ... I personally don't know if this is possible.

Get a first morning urine and have them check the specific gravity - that will indicate whether he is concentrating his urine. Have them culture the urine (must be a clean catch) as sometimes a bacteria will grow and it is not easily see in the microscopic. Check the Protein % of the dog food that you are feeding. Sometimes as dogs age, they can not handle the amount of protein they did earlier in life. You can try a low protein (20%) dog food for a few weeks and see if it makes a difference.

I had a similar occurrence with my younger dog when my oldest left - he didn't have accidents however, he was just so lost and unsettled. I found that what worked for us was just taking some long slow walks to give him some quality time. I also had an older girl so he still had company, he just missed my older dog. I also suggest going out with him when you let him out to make sure he does what he needs to.

I agree with the posts that noted that having roommates that are coming and going at all times and not taking any time to take her outside is NOT good. It is waking her up and then she has to go and she ends up going in the crate. This does not sound like it is workable because of the roommates - it sounds like you are trying. Return her -- the sooner the better.

I suggest not using chicken as it could be the cause of allergies - use hamburger instead (about 88% to 90% lean). If you feed about 2 cups of dry food twice a day, you will need to increase the amount to about 2 1/2 cups of home-made food twice a day. Use about 1 1/2 cups rice to 1 3/4 cups rice (I don't overcook and my dogs are fine with it) mix with about 1/2 to 3/4 cup of sauteed hamburger (90%, you don't want to much fat) and add about 1/4 to 1/2 cup of cooked and mashed veggies like green beans. I would recommend that you add about 1/2 cup hot water to it to make sure that it gets mixed well and is a bit "mushy". I also warm the rice up so it is warm. You can also add a bit of shredded cheese on top or a tablespoon of applesauce. You don't need to add supplements if you only do this for a few weeks however, if it continues longer than that, you will need to add calcium and vitamins. Note that if diarrhea is a problem, you can add cooked oatmeal to the food.

That was my impression also however, my vet told me that it was suitable for the amount of recession that Adam has. I'll let you know what happens - right now he is scheduled for mid April.

Check his paws for corns - they can be very hard to spot. If you are unsure, take pictures of his paws and people here will be able to tell.

Yes... I know ... the title is a mouthful It seems that this is a procedure that can be done on teeth that have some gum recession however, it can not be too much recession. It takes the existing gum and pulls it down over the exposed tooth root to give a longer life to the tooth. Has anyone has this done for their dog's teeth and if yes, how did it go. There are stitches (dissolving) involved and since the gum takes time to heal, ONLY soft foods for a few weeks which is not a problem because Adam is on home-made food. It looks like Adam has some recession on 3 of his teeth that this might help with and since he is only 7 1/2, I'm inclined to try the procedure. It only adds about 15 minutes to the total dental procedure.

It could also be a corn on one of his pads. Regardless, I would not have him walking if he is limping -- taking him to the event is fine, just not walking.

I thought about one other item while I was walking the dogs - it doesn't look like the cook the final mixture and if that is the case, it will probably not last much past 3 days refrigerated after it is all mixed together. I found out when I was experimenting and mixing the cooked items together so I could store them more easily in the frig - they would go bad much sooner than I expected. I corrected the problem by either putting a step in to cook it all together (not feasible long term in my case) or by simply doing the mixing at serving time.

I'm 20 minutes out of Boston in an area with heavy ticks - I vaccinate my dogs with the Lyme vaccine every year and this has been for a few years now. There has been a newer vaccine out and that is the one that my vet uses. There is supposed to be a titer test coming so that you might not have to vaccinate if the titer is high enough but, not out yet (that I know of). The flea and tick preventives will kill the tick within 48 hours (or so) but they don't prevent the initial injection of the anticoagulant which may contain the Lyme.

I agree, all this stuff smells good when it is cooking and ... people can eat it too. As you noted, the dogs just seem to be more happy eating the home-made stuff than the kibble. The really nice thing about dogs eating this food is that they rarely have gas. I had looked into the slippery elm powder for Lucy but since it can hinder medicine absorption, I couldn't take a chance because of all the medications she takes for her seizures. That's also why I give the snacks because the different times that she takes pills during the day. As I already noted, you have a great recipe - much thought went into it.

Great video! I have been feeding my dogs home-made food for more than a decade but, my methods are a bit different and maybe less time-consuming (at one time). I usually buy about 6 pounds of hamburger, bake it and then freeze into about 4 containers. I also do the same with fish for my IBD girl (and seizures). I defrost the containers as needed In the mornings, I make the dogs fresh oatmeal and mix with either the hamburger or the fish along with some milk, a bit of honey and a few tablespoons of rice. For dinner, they get rice (I usually make about 5 cups rice at a time and it might last almost 2 days), either hamburger or fish, and veggies. I usually buy frozen bags of veggies and bake 2 packages at a time and that will last a few days. They also get toast and peanut butter in the am and, yogurt and applesauce in the PM for snacks. They also get home-made treats as Lucy (seizure and IBD girl) cannot have preservatives or chicken. I give them 1 fish oil a day along with calcium in the AM and PM. At PM, they also get a multi-vitamin. While I like your recipe, I would not have the freezer space to store all the food. By keeping most of the ingredients separate - I can keep the rice and oats in room temp storage until needed. I also noted your remark about what comes out of the dog and that brought up early memories of them pooping the rice almost undigested however, that changed over a short duration and then the rice was all digested. The vegetables can be an issue but that is solved by cooking and mashing the vegetables. Again, great job on your recipe and the steps that you use to get the finished product.

I suggest having the urine cultured to find out what type of bacteria and what it is sensitive to. Giving an antibiotic that is not going to work can create problems such as getting rid of good bacteria in the body and can cost more in the long run because of additional tests and more antibiotics.

I've had 2 greyhounds that could not tolerate chicken - would cause diarrhea. I would suggest switching out the chicken for cooked hamburger (90%). Also try adding cooked mashed green beans which have fiber. If it continues, add cooked old-fashioned oatmeal (5 minute cooking time) to the food - about 3 to 4 tablespoons and you can mix with a few drops of honey and milk. You might want to try a probiotic to add good bacteria to the intestinal tract.