ok, three things, first I'm not a fan of crates unless it's for the dog's safety ,and secondly, I don't have children, and thirdly, i don't want this topic to go off track because you know how people can exert their opinions at times.
Why would you crate train a grey when you have crawling babies? Isn't it enough for them to have a safe place upstairs in a bedroom for instance? Our greys get up and go to their pillows in our bedroom if they are scared or want to go to another comfortable area. Neither of them ever wanted to go in a crate once they came home to us.
People in the UK rarely use crates and must face the same issues. Why are people suggesting crating? Flame me if you feel it's necessary but I hope the topic stays on track for sake of the OP...just wondering if crating is a good answer in this instance.