cleptogrey Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 better pic of emily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyGrey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Found another dam! Not my dog - Buddy is from Pilot and Rose. http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?d=Sucker+punch+&sex=&color=&birthyear=&birthland=AU I was looking at this dog, originally from Australia that has been rescued in China, who has Pilot as a sire and a dam called Fleece. However her birth date is given as 1860 something while Pilot is 1820. So I’m not sure how accurate this is - someone mentioned artificial insemination in an earlier post. While it’s highly likely that this could have been used, it’s surely less likely that it would have been possible to preserve the sperm over that duration of time. Quote Buddy Molly 🌈 5/11/10-10/10/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocsDoctor Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Sounds as if it could be accurate to me - Pilot is 32 generations back, on that record, Fleece only 27. Five generations into forty years allows eight years for each, which is feasible. Indeed, sperm preservation would require reliable long-term refrigeration which only became available later in the nineteenth century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigeration Quote Clare with Tiger (Snapper Gar, b. 18/05/2015), and remembering Ken (Boomtown Ken, 01/05/2011-21/02/2020) and Doc (Barefoot Doctor, 20/08/2001-15/04/2015)."It is also to be noted of every species, that the handsomest of each move best ... and beasts of the most elegant form, always excel in speed; of this, the horse and greyhound are beautiful examples."----Wiliam Hogarth, The Analysis of Beauty, 1753. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmdsmoxie Posted August 26, 2019 Author Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, MerseyGrey said: http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?d=Sucker+punch+&sex=&color=&birthyear=&birthland=AU I was looking at this dog, originally from Australia that has been rescued in China, who has Pilot as a sire and a dam called Fleece. However her birth date is given as 1860 something while Pilot is 1820. So I’m not sure how accurate this is - someone mentioned artificial insemination in an earlier post. While it’s highly likely that this could have been used, it’s surely less likely that it would have been possible to preserve the sperm over that duration of time. It isn't that Pilot and Fleece were mated. The sire line of Sucker Punch, meaning from Where's Pedro back traces back to Pilot and the dam line from Osti's Delight traces back to Fleece. Edited August 26, 2019 by dmdsmoxie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerseyGrey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I see... Quote Buddy Molly 🌈 5/11/10-10/10/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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