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  1. I think JC something. I think the last part started with a P. I know he is alive because he posted on another forum maybe 7 days ago.
  2. I don't have a lot of information for you, but if we jump to the mid 1800's greyhounds were brought to the states from Ireland and England for one purpose and that was to hunt and kill jackrabbits. The jacks were eating the farmers crops. the greyhounds would catch and kill what they could and I don't know abut eating the jacks, but I would think the farmers didn't care if they did. if you go back a thousand years or more coursing was a sport even back then and it wasn't about the kill as much as it was about the chase. The hare would be given a head start and the chase was on. So catching and killing the hare wasn't a priority, but I'm sure if the dog caught the hare it was dead in no time. Even in more modern times into the 2000's coursing was still going strong in England and the rabbit always had places to escape to so the tradition of coursing was more about the chase than the kill and skilled rabbits were bred just for this. It wasn't just catch any rabbit and throw him out there. As you may or may not know General Custer had a lot of greyhounds and other sight hounds that traveled with him. When I say a lot I'm talking 30 or 40. I know some of the other dogs were salukis which can run forever. It might be a buffalo, antelope or probably anything else and these dogs would start to chase as Custer followed on his horse. If the chase was long the greyhounds tired and the salukis would soon be continuing the hunt from the front. A pack of anything can take just about anything down, but I'm not sure if the dogs made the kill or just tired the game out and Custer was able to shoot it. Maybe others can add to what I posted or correct something that I remembered incorrectly. While this doesn't answer your question there was a poster here on GT for a lot of years named Martin Roper. He is very intelligent and was a pedigree guru and greyhound historian. He did a lot of research and wrote this maybe 12 years ago. Everything You Know Is Wrong In the 1970s, an American comedy troupe comparable to Monty Python was the Firesign Theater. They never reached the superstar status of their English counterparts, but their albums were popular on college campuses across the country. The title of one of them, Everything You Know is Wrong, has become a personal motto of mine—it seems that almost daily new discoveries in science and exploration make us reassess what we once held to be true. The same can be said for Greyhounds. A long-held belief, published as fact in dozens of books and repeated on hundreds of web sites, is that the breed is of Egyptian or Middle-Eastern origin. The assertion is puzzling because there are no Greyhound breeds presently residing in the Middle East. The Saluki, Sloughi, and Afghan Hound are clearly of a different type than modern Greyhounds, and it’s hard to imagine that they descend from a common ancestor. On the other hand, Greyhounds and Greyhound-type dogs are common in central Europe, Spain and the British Isles. As early as 1853, John Henry Walsh, writing under the pseudonym "Stonehenge," made a clear case for a Celtic origin for the breed in his classic The Greyhound, but not too many authors since him seem to have been able to make the same connection. From the beginning of the first millenium B.C., the Greeks were seafarers and traders and regularly visited ports all along the southeastern Mediterranean in what is now Egypt and the Middle East. Much of what we know of that area in those times was recorded by Greek historians and there is no mention of Greyhounds. The breed was completely unknown to them prior to 200 B.C., the time of their first encounters with the Keltoi, as they called them, a tribal culture from the north. In 300 B.C., Xenophon made no mention of Greyhounds in his discussion of dog breeds in his treatise On Hunting. Two centuries later, the poet Grattius wrote of the Celts’ dogs that, "...swifter than thought or a winged bird it runs, pressing hard on beasts it has found." Arrian, another Greek, but who wrote in Latin, clearly identified the Vertragus, the predecessor of the modern Greyhound. The Celtic culture flourished from what is now Austria, west to northern Spain, and north to the farthest reaches of the British Isles and Ireland. Everywhere they went they took their dogs with them and left offshoots of the Vertragus. In Spain it was the Galgo; in the British Isles, it was a bewildering array of sighthounds in a wide variety of sizes and coats, from giant dogs we now call Wolfhounds to "Tumblers," by contemporary accounts a Whippet-sized dog. The Celts made no distinction among their sighthound varieties. To add to the confusion, English writers up until the 16th century called all the larger Celtic dogs "Greyhounds," and the dog we call the Greyhound today, the "Coursing dog." Irish Wolfhounds in those days were prized in Europe for hunting Boar, and the demand for the largest Greyhounds "of the Irish type" was great and they fetched tremendous prices. The present Greyhounds, the ones we love, are the result of the coursing craze after the easing of the Forest Laws in the 17th century which prevented commoners from coursing or even owning Greyhounds. The coursing rules of the day dictated a very specific range of performance and traits, and those are the ones we see in our dogs today. Almost all the other varieties of Celtic sighthounds disappeared. Even the Irish Wolfhound is a re-creation of a breed that had all but gone extinct. Two recent landmark genetic studies have confirmed Walsh to be correct. The first, "Multiple and Ancient Origins of the Domestic Dog" (Science 1997), traced the mitochondrial DNA from ancient times to the present day Greyhound. Interestingly, three other breeds derive from the same mitochondrial strain, the St. Bernard, Miniature Schnauzer, and the Irish Setter, which suggests male-line introductions of other breeds to Greyhound-line females who were the foundations of those breeds. All three originate in areas where Celtic culture flourished. The second, and more definitive study, "Genetic Structure of the Purebred Domestic Dog" (Science 2004), used Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNPs), clumps of identical DNA strings that appear in groups of breeds, but often not in others. The study clearly showed that Salukis and Afghan Hounds were part of an "Asian" group along with the Chow, Akita, and Shar-pei. Predictably, the Greyhound appeared in what I’ll call the "Celtic" group along with the Irish Wolfhound, but also as a progenitor of more recent breeds including the Whippet, Borzoi, Belgian Sheepdog, Belgian Tervuren, Collie, Shetland Sheepdog, and the St. Bernard. A glance at a map clearly shows that all those breeds originate within the influence of Celtic culture in Europe. It’s time the Celts got their due as the caretakers of the breed, not Egyptian pharoahs or Mesopotamian kings who never saw a Greyhound. Dick
  3. I know there have been a number of threads about dog steps to help older dogs getting in and out of a car. A number of people have explained how to make them, but I saw this video of a greyhound using the steps and thought I would post it. https://www.facebook.com/KathyMal/videos/pcb.2892102547550708/10219655620513640/?type=3&ifg=1&__tn__=HH-R&eid=ARCNBVXyPbpv3AtoOqA_ee-nd5A2dkX9uEoiDYBYlE8R3Kxisad59tSSSw4x79nVRw7pyUy5e6H3B3oC
  4. Just a reminder that I, and a few others on GT, can edit your pups G-D page. There is now a field for adopted owner and pet name. There is also a bereavement section where we can add the date of death and a couple of sentences if you wish. Plus, up to three pictures can be posted on the G-D forum and if you want pictures posted just add them to this thread. G-D added a watermark to the pictures because pictures were being taken from G-D without the owners or G-D's permission. You still own your pictures, but G-D will go after people that steal pictures from their site. Post whatever information you want added to this thread and I or someone will add it. Dick
  5. Done, but I couldn't upload the video. I may not have permission to do that from the mods. If you need something changed or added let me know. http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?d=BGR+ShirlyTemple&sex=&color=&birthyear=&birthland=
  6. FYI: I can post pictures on her G-D page and there are now fields to enter who she was adopted by and also her pet name. If you want me to do any of these things just post the information here. Dick
  7. Daytona was scheduled to close on March 28th and they closed a week early because of the virus. Sanford Orlando was going to close the first week in June, I think after the Belmont, but with them closing because of the virus they decided to end racing last week. This put probably 1400 dogs into adoption at once. Both tracks would be considered low end tracks so not many of those dogs would move to another track so adoption is where most would go. Naples closes May 3rd, but I would guess a lot of those dogs will go to Iowa as their meet starts May 16th. Since Naples is a very good track dogs that don't go to Iowa would probably go to other tracks unless they are older and get adopted out. With Derby Lane, PB and Jax all closed, but will reopen when the time comes I would guess you will see some of the four-year-old dogs from those tracks also get adopted out. Some of the dogs from DL, PB, Jax and Naples will also go back to the farm. Sanford Orlando is the track that really threw a monkey wrench into the smooth flow of track closings and putting extra dogs into adoption, but all the dogs are being cared for and the tracks are helping by paying the kennels and some are buying food.
  8. If you watch the race closely you will notice near the finish line after the break Chill has a problem with the 3 and gets knocked back. Then as they enter the backstretch he jumps out and goes around the 3 and one other dog. As far as having an extra gear, that is what most dogmen and women and gamblers call it.
  9. Chillaxification is probably one of the top two or three dogs in the country. If you like a closer he is the dog to watch. He is never out of it even when he looks like he is and this is the way he runs most of his races.. He is in the 1 box http://www.trackinfo.com/video-box.jsp?raceid=gSL%2420200306T02
  10. With Big Kenny Moon it is impossible to give any information since he only shows one race, the other race he was scratched, and in that race he was last all the way around. There is a good chance he ran more than that one race since back then we put in all races by hand and a lot of dogs have incomplete records. Mac's Gideon shows 7 races all at Tri-State and he didn't have any early speed and didn't have any late speed. You can figure out that isn't good. He had one maiden race where he finished second and his other races he was between 5th and 8th. Mac's Zed ran 70 races all at Tri-State. He had no early speed with most races being 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th out of the box and to the turn. However, he was a really good closer so he did all his running from the backstretch to the finish line. While he didn't go from 8th to win he could go from 5th or 6th to win or be 2nd. Races he was 7th or 8th to the turn he would usually be passing dogs and had a chance to be in the money. Though he only had 6 wins he was in the money a nice 41 of his 70 races and he was always moving forward. Nice that they were all therapy dogs. Dick
  11. I would continue to pay the 100 dollars a month to myself. Open up an account and put the 100 dollars in it ever month just like you pay ever other bill. If you need the money for the dog it is there.
  12. https://www.ocregister.com/2020/02/26/therapy-dogs-take-the-bite-out-of-travel-at-john-wayne-airport/ I like the last sentence. “I’m happy to be covered with dog hair,” Wagner said. “It’s a great look.”
  13. SJ’s Princess ran 27 races all at Sanford Orlando. She was a dog that needed to be on top at the 1st turn to have any chance to win. Her problem was she didn't have great early speed. LOL In her 27 races she had one win, two 3rds and three 4ths. They tried putting her in the shorter 330 yard races, but that didn't work out and she is now your pet and I'm positive she is a better pet than a racer. Dangerous Lion ran 140 races between Sanford Orlando, Mardi Gras and Palm Beach. He was a dog with not much early speed. He could rush the turn a little, but nothing that would get him to the top or even 2nd in most races. To run 140 races you have to be able to do something and that something was to close. He did most of his racing from the middle of the backstretch to the finish line. He could come from far back to be 3rd or come from 4th or 5th to be 2nd or win. He was a nice racer with 86 races in the money out of his 140 starts. While he ran in grade A I would consider him a nice B dog who could win B, but not A. Dick
  14. I would think a number of groups will be getting dogs in the next few months. Daytona will close the end of March and Sanford Orlando is closing in early June, the 5th I think. Between those two tracks there are about 1350 dogs and since those are considered low end tracks most of those dogs will do to adoption and not another track to race. While I can't speak specifically about your group getting dogs, there will be a lot of dogs available. Just to give everyone an idea as to what is going on with breeding greyhounds in 2017 there were 7,181 individuals whelped, in 2018 that number was close to the same at 6,867. For 2019 I have the numbers through November and that number is 6,249. That is about 570 a month so the 2019 total should be about the same as 2018. Dick
  15. Bam's Barney ran 176 races all at Caliente He was a dog that at the peak of his career he ran a lot of A and B races. In those races he really needed to be 1st or 2nd to the turn to have a chance to win. He had the early speed to do that so as long as he hit his break he was usually near the front at the turn. If he broke poorly he finished near the back. In the lower grades he could be 3rd or 4th to the turn and have a chance to win. Of his 176 races he was in the money 91 times and that is pretty good and pretty consistent. Mega San Onofre ran 215 races all at Caliente. She was a little better racer than Barney running in A and B for longer periods of time. She could close a little and if she was 3rd or better to the turn she was a threat to win even in A. She also never gave in a race and even if she was 7th to the turn she could end up 3rd or 4th. She couldn't close enough to win, but she tried more often than not. She was in the money a very good 130 times with 39 wins. Dick
  16. HRF needed to have more speed out of the box, but most of the time he got out poorly and that set him up for getting in trouble at the turn. He finished in the money three times and in each of those races he got out of the box third, second and third. His other seven races he was 7th or 8th out of the box except for one time when he was 4th. What you don't want to do is get to the turn with the pack and be on the outside because all it takes is one dog that goes a little wide and you get blocked or pushed around. He is a big boy at 85 pounds. Good luck with your new boy I'm sure he will be a great pet. Dick
  17. Interesting trial going on. https://www.thenorthernlight.com/stories/innovative-therapy-puts-blaine-dogs-cancer-into-remission,9264
  18. As was mentioned above Kay Kay System was bred and had two pups. They were born in July and most females go into season every 6 months so whether she was bred again or adopted out I don't know. http://www.greyhound-data.com/d?i=2103995 When you mentioned your pups sire was Flying Train it caught my eye because he was a great racers many years ago and he was whelped in 1989. Dick
  19. If you are on FB try joining the Pro Greyhound Movement group and ask there. https://www.facebook.com/groups/470273329733654/ I'm always amazed that there is almost always someone that knows the dog someone is asking about. There are farmers, kennel owners, trainers and people from adoption groups on that site. Dick
  20. It is always nice to start gaining daylight. While our earliest sunsets were earlier this month, so we've been gaining time at night and our latest sunsets still haven't happened we do start gaining more time at night than we lose in the morning. The other thing about being in the northern hemisphere is we will be closest to the sun on January 4th and farthest from the sun on, it's either July 3rd or 4th forgot which it is this year.
  21. Those that have been on GT for a while know Dennis and his great knowledge of greyhounds and how well he expresses his thoughts into words. To those that don't know Dennis I would say he is the person that knows every in and out of what makes a greyhound tick. https://www.facebook.com/groups/470273329733654/permalink/2670897666337865/
  22. I think it's great that the adoption groups will take back a dog for whatever reason can't stay in the adoptive home. It's the language in the contract that I'm against. Having a place to fall back on would be a perfect scenario except that you are legally bound to do so. What if you had a friend or relative that would love to take your dog. Legally, according to the contract, you can't give your dog to a person like that. I guess the adoption group could sue you. That is what I'm against. I don't want a dog ending up in a shelter when a group will take the dog back. To me it's a win, win situation without the perceived legality of where the dog has to go. Here in the U.S. you can safely say greyhound adoption is at 100 percent. A couple of groups have imported greyhounds from either the U.K or Ireland, forgot which, because they have no dogs to adopt out and there are a number of adoption groups that have a few dogs or no dogs and are waiting for some. When demand is more than supply you are at 100 percent. I hope you find a good solution to your problem and it sounds like fostering the dog and letting potential adopters come to your house to see the dog works well for everyone. Dick
  23. For years I've said the same thing. It would be nice if the adoption groups said if the need arises and you need to rehome your pup we would be happy to take the dog back and do the rehoming again. Either I own the dog or I don't and if I don't then why am I paying all the food and medical bills? If I do then I can do with the dog as I please. Is there anything else that you purchase that you don't own except for big ticket items like a house or car that you own with a bank? Even the house or car there is no stipulation that you can't sell or give the house or car away as long as the lender gets their money.
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