Guest Sandy Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 I am adopting Fallon straight off the track and he was neutered over a week ago (he is still in the kennels). One of the kennel staff noticed the day after that his leg had swollen up. They took him back to the vet and they had to put him under again and it was discovered that an artery was left untied! He is on 5 tabs a day inc. anti flammatory and the kennel staff have been told to keep massaging his leg. It's huge and his foot looks like a pigs trotter, my poor boy. Has anyone experienced this? Quote
Guest CDNgreys Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Never experienced it but I sure hope your boy gets better fast!!! Quote
Guest luckydog Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Sure hope this vet doesn't charge you for all this extra expense! Quote
Guest 4baddogs Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Wow, that's really bad! I hope he heals quickly and yes, the vets better not charge you! Quote
seeh2o Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Poor boy. I hope he recovers quickly. Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014
tbhounds Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Things happen---even though a castration is considered routine it's still surgery. Perhaps one of the vessels that was ligated broke down? Congratulations on your adoption----pictures please????? (after he's feeling better of course ) Quote
Hawthorn Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 That's disgraceful! I hope Fallon is much better soon and look forward to seeing pictures . Quote When a relationship of love is disrupted, the relationship does not cease. The love continues; therefore, the relationship continues. The work of grief is to reconcile and redeem life to a different love relationship. ~ W Scott Lineberry Always Greyhounds Home Boarding and Greyhounds With Love House Sitting
Anne Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 I hope he does well and if feeling all better soon. I would have to question an artery, it would seem to me that the dog would never have made it out of the office alive if an artery was left bleeding. Doctors and Veterinarians and Nurses and Vet Techs all make errors, they are humans, so try not to think too badly of the vet. Quote
Guest greymama002 Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 How sad for the sweet boy! Hope that Fallon recovers quickly and will be just fine! Quote
Ullaluv Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Like Anne, I would question it being an artery. Quote
Guest nerak254 Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I hope you are reporting this vet too. Quote
Guest Sandy Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) I hope he does well and if feeling all better soon. I would have to question an artery, it would seem to me that the dog would never have made it out of the office alive if an artery was left bleeding. Doctors and Veterinarians and Nurses and Vet Techs all make errors, they are humans, so try not to think too badly of the vet. I have been thinking this which is why I called the vet myself this morning. He showed not ONE BIT OF REMORSE! He said that there was a "complication" during surgery, I asked what happened and he said that a ligature has been left untied and that blood/liquid had clotted down one side of his leg. He said it could be weeks before it went down IF it went down at all! I said what are the consequences of this happening and he said, he would be at risk of infection if he had an injury and this could lead to amputation... He said that I should think twice about taking Fallon home while his leg was still swollen. If I bring him home next week I can massage and try to do everything required to help him....has anyone else experienced this kind of swelling? Edited April 27, 2009 by Sandy Quote
GeorgeofNE Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I don't believe that a simple neuter involves any arteries. If the vet is suggesting it's not in his best interest to go home yet, I would heed his warning. Whoever is adopting this dog out to you should be all over the vet's office making sure the proper follow up care is done. I hope it all turns out fine. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck
Anne Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 I hope he does well and if feeling all better soon. I would have to question an artery, it would seem to me that the dog would never have made it out of the office alive if an artery was left bleeding. Doctors and Veterinarians and Nurses and Vet Techs all make errors, they are humans, so try not to think too badly of the vet. I have been thinking this which is why I called the vet myself this morning. He showed not ONE BIT OF REMORSE! He said that there was a "complication" during surgery, I asked what happened and he said that a ligature has been left untied and that blood/liquid had clotted down one side of his leg. He said it could be weeks before it went down IF it went down at all! I said what are the consequences of this happening and he said, he would be at risk of infection if he had an injury and this could lead to amputation... He said that I should think twice about taking Fallon home while his leg was still swollen. If I bring him home next week I can massage and try to do everything required to help him....has anyone else experienced this kind of swelling? He certainly doesn't seem to be helping his own case does he? If you want to bring the dog home, I would find a vet who you like and take him to that vet. I would think that the blood would eventually be absorbed by the body, though it may take a while. I wonder if a compression bandage would help? I would ask your personal vet that question. Again, the surgery had problems, that happens. It may or may not have been his error even, he could have had a tech or another vet assisting and if there are more than one vet in the practice, it may not have been him doing the actual surgery etc. etc. etc. There are too many "ifs - ands - or buts" that could have been responsible. It seems though that he has been honest with you about it and that's a plus for him. Honestly, I'm surprised he even talked to you unless it was you who paid for the neuter, so again, even though he seemed unremorseful over the phone we don't know the details etc. If you don't like him, make sure that you never use him for your dog/dogs. I personally would allow the track/trainer take care of him until he's recovered. You have to do what your heart tells you to do. I hope Fallon recovers quickly and fully, I will keep him in my thoughts and prayers. Quote
Guest greytexplorer Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 WOW that's a lot to handle isn't it?? If I was a first time greyhound owner, I would definitely leave Fallon at the track until he was recovered. Did the vet say anything about blood clots in Fallon's system? I would be worried about that! I am so sorry this happened for you and especially for Fallon, bless him! Hope he recovers "riteawayqwik" so that he can have that forever couch. hugs, ~Pat Quote
Hawthorn Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Poor Fallon and poor you for having to deal with this. I don't have any experience of this sort of thing but I wonder if an holistic vet might be able to offer any advice? Please do let us know how Fallon gets on. Quote When a relationship of love is disrupted, the relationship does not cease. The love continues; therefore, the relationship continues. The work of grief is to reconcile and redeem life to a different love relationship. ~ W Scott Lineberry Always Greyhounds Home Boarding and Greyhounds With Love House Sitting
Guest knitkass Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 poor Fallon. I hope he does heal fast. That's pretty rotten that the vet's showing no remorse or culpability, but he's probably trying to avoid a lawsuit over this. If he says anything like, oops, or I'm sorry he's admitting responsibility for it. HOpefully he's at least doing the honorable thing of taking care of any after-care Fallon needs himself. Quote
Guest IrskasMom Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Even a Vet has a Responsebility and is held accountable for his doing. I feel terrible for that poor Boy . Hopefully he will recover from that totally and fast. Fallon Honey ..... your Mama is waiting . Thank you Sandy ,for giving this Boy a Home Quote
Guest fatesrelease Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Poor sweetie. Hope he feels better soon. Quote
Guest speedoketo Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) Artery doesn't always mean something huge like aorta that will spurt everywhere until you bleed to death. So yes there are arteries running to the testicles. Edited April 28, 2009 by speedoketo Quote
Guest Chasems Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 My greyhound, Chase, recently underwent amputation surgery for OS. One week after the surgery, he had a serious bleeding event (scared me to death) - two thick streams of blood shooting up 6" in the air! One week later, he had another. Just before surgery, I had consulted with Dr. Couto's team and they were very insistent that Chase be given Amminocaproic Acid right after surgery and for five days after. My new vet was not familiar with it. OSU followed up via e-mail and phoned me to let me know how important it was! I insisted and my vet called in the presription. However, Chase was not started on it until about 24 hours after surgery. I don't know if that contributed to the bleeding, or if the surgeon had anything to do with it, or we may have just been unlucky. However, I learned from the OSU website that they have done a lot of research on how our hounds have such a tendency to bleed. They routinely use the AA even for routine spay/neuter surgeries. On their website are some pictures of normal post surgery spays/neuters and some pictures of dogs that experienced bleeding complications. Melinda Quote
dmswartzfager Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 My greyhound, Chase, recently underwent amputation surgery for OS. One week after the surgery, he had a serious bleeding event (scared me to death) - two thick streams of blood shooting up 6" in the air! One week later, he had another. Just before surgery, I had consulted with Dr. Couto's team and they were very insistent that Chase be given Amminocaproic Acid right after surgery and for five days after. My new vet was not familiar with it. OSU followed up via e-mail and phoned me to let me know how important it was! I insisted and my vet called in the presription. However, Chase was not started on it until about 24 hours after surgery. I don't know if that contributed to the bleeding, or if the surgeon had anything to do with it, or we may have just been unlucky. However, I learned from the OSU website that they have done a lot of research on how our hounds have such a tendency to bleed. They routinely use the AA even for routine spay/neuter surgeries. On their website are some pictures of normal post surgery spays/neuters and some pictures of dogs that experienced bleeding complications. Melinda I think some dogs have a poor reaction to it - we followed OSU protocol when Blitz had his exploratory abdominal surgery, and we almost lost him to DIC. He spent a miserable week in compression bandages - his legs were so swollen that they were seeping serum. Quote Deanna with galgo Willow, greyhound Finn, and DH BrianRemembering Marcus (11/16/93 - 11/16/05), Tyler (2/3/01 - 11/6/06), Frazzle (7/2/94 - 7/23/07), Carrie (5/8/96 - 2/24/09), Blitz (3/28/97 - 6/10/11), Symbra (12/30/02 - 7/16/13), Scarlett (10/10/02 - 08/31/13), Wren (5/25/01 - 5/19/14), Rooster (3/7/07 - 8/28/18), Q (2008 - 8/31/19), and Momma Mia (2002 - 12/9/19).
Anne Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Artery doesn't always mean something huge like aorta that will spurt everywhere until you bleed to death. So yes there are arteries running to the testicles. Um, yeah, pretty much it does, not as big as the aorta, but it will pulse (arteries are where we feel pulses) and you will bleed to death from a severed artery and it won't take very long. Quote
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