Morning Vomit With Bile

[Mercsmom]

I am starting a new thread because Mercury's issue is a little different from previous threads.

In a nutshell:

Friday morning: out for p & p, in for three small cookies, 5-10 minutes later vomiting. This was truly vomiting, not the regurgitation that comes from eating too fast (though that happens on occasion as well). After a day of very small meals, and watchfulness, all seemed well.

Saturday: fine

Sunday morning: A repeat of Friday but maybe 1-2 minutes after cookies. Same pattern of vomit: horrendous noisy effort to bring it up. bile, then, cookies, then 2-3 more efforts to bring up yellow, slightly frothy bile.

Here's where it's different from other empty-tummy morning vomit threads:

(1) This occurs after eating

(2) He gets a large milkbone before bed

(3) For the first time, he was kenneled. I picked him up Thursday morning.

 

After 2 and 1/2 years together, this is only the second time he's ever really vomited.

 

Thoughts?

 

[macoduck]

I wonder if he ate something he shouldn't have at the kennel. Would he have had any opportunities to score a snack there that he's not used to? Chewed up part of a toy?

 

How is his poop? Quantity out from quantity in? Any change in consistency?

 

Does he want to eat? Have you tried giving him a Pepcid?

[Mercsmom]

Hungry, plus wanting some grass

Pooping, peeing, snuggling

Hard to tell change in behavior as he's a relatively low energy hound

My big fear is a foreign object. But, would that present as every-other-day vomiting? I get the empty stomach/ acid connection, perhaps in conjunction with a foreign object, but every other day?

If it's only once a day, or every other day, how soon to go to the vet for x-rays?

 

(edited to add: y'know..... Mercury has a dental additive in his water which is a mild acid. While he was at the kennel, he did not get the additive. Could the reintroduction of the additive be too much for his stomach?)

Edited October 23, 2016 by Mercsmom

[Batmom]

Stop the additive for a week or two and see. If all is well, then reintroduce.

 

Is this just in the morning, after a cookie or two but not after a full meal?

[Mercsmom]

 

Is this just in the morning, after a cookie or two but not after a full meal?

 

Has only ever happened twice. Both were right after cookies. Meals are fine.

[XTRAWLD]

I assume in 5-10 mins the cookies were not really well digested that you could tell? If they were nearly the same as when they went in, I wonder if they never even made it to the stomach?

 

I'd experiment with a different treat for bedtime/snacks and see what the reaction is. Ryder has slowly transitioned from eating milkbones (as they are so dry) to soft Bacon Strips instead just because the milkbones keep getting stuck in his throat before bed, and he hacks and coughs to get them up if they went down wrong. I find during the day when he's "active" the milkbones don't get stuck (and I've figured this is a result of an "awake" body....if he's been napping for a while and I give him the milkbones, it's like the saliva and mouth isn't working yet!)

 

Bile means the stomach is empty, and has been irritated in some form. I'd suggest Pepcid as well, but I don't think this situation warrants that yet, since there isn't this reaction during meal time. I'd try different treats first.

Edited October 23, 2016 by XTRAWLD

[Guest drvs]

Great advice above but would second the change of cookies/treats. My angel Annie had that exact issue before with treats on empty stomach... come to find out they changed the formula slightly of the cookies. Would only bother her on an empty stomach. I gave plain unsalted rice cakes for a treat on empty stomach and she liked them. Also helped because it expanded a little in her stomach after some water, so it helped keep it down.

 

Good luck.