Guest FinnsMom Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) For those wanting to feed raw but are put off by the cost or not enough freezer space to buy in large quantities when sales are on, here's another alternative. Sort of like a raw kibble. No additives, preservatives, and no "meal". http://carna4.com/ Edited December 6, 2012 by FinnsMom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DragonflyDM Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have seen something like this at the Pet Stores and it seemed extremely expensive for a dog the size of a greyhound, when I can get chicken for $0.99 to $1.99/lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FinnsMom Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have no idea on the price as they don't actually sell it here in Barrie. LOL I'd have to drive to a small town about 25 minutes away to buy it. I was told about it at my vet by the receptionist who feeds it to her dogs as she said it's the closest thing to raw without feeding raw she can get. So I thought I'd post it here as an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DragonflyDM Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 When I am not feeding raw.. I get these patties from Burton's Total Pets that just need to be thawed and served. Still not cheap. I think it comes to $1.50-2.50 lbs. I am sure it is good stuff-- but always comes down to return on investment (health vs cost). I would love to hear someone who knows more about this. I just know the similar looking product at the dog store was not cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FinnsMom Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 The receptionist at the vet had said her dog was sick, nearly bald and she had tried for 2 years to find a food that worked for him. She said she bought it and she couldn't believe the difference it made, and now I guess her dog has this full lush coat that needs grooming on a regular basis. LOL And since they don't sell the stuff at the vet where she works, I know she's not only after a sale. It's all natural ingredients, and she said the smell of it is amazing. LOL Which I don't think you can say about any other dog food. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytpups Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Lots of stores near us carry it according to the website (Global Pet foods). I'm going to check it out because I'd like to compare the cost. Thanks Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I'd call that an alternative to kibble before I'd call it an alternative to raw but it looks like it might be a nice option for someone looking for a higher quality kibble option. Not sure if the cooking method does in fact retain nutrients better, but it's promising if it does (their FAQ claims they've tested their product to confirm it), but the most appealing thing to me would be the use of only products from the USA/Canada and the fact that it's also made at a US facility. Lots of information in their FAQ although this is a total myth: Q: As dogs are carnivores, how can they even gain benefits from eating quality seeds or grains? A: Dogs actually need more nutrients than they can get from meat alone and they need calories without fat, supplied by the right carbohydrate sources. This is demonstrated by dogs left to fend for themselves in the wild. The first thing they eat after killing their prey is its stomach and stomach contents, which includes plants, grasses and seeds in a pre-digested form they can easily absorb. These foods provide the extensive vitamins, minerals and other nutrients needed for a complete and balanced diet. It’s hard however for dogs to benefit from whole, intact grains because they can’t easily break them down through digestion. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trihounds Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I agree, Jen. Seems like the only organ meat is chicken liver and there is no mention of bone content (and it's related vitamins / minerals). Looks like an amazing alternative to kibble, though, but I wouldn't give up on raw feeding for this food, even though it is more convenient. Quote Doe's Bruciebaby Doe's Bumper Derek Follow my Ironman journeys and life with dogs, cats and busy kids: A long road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FinnsMom Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Changed the title to Alternative Kibble. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Changed the title to Alternative Kibble. LOL Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubcitypam Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Man, they are all about sprouts! I just keep thinking of all the human salmonella and e-coli outbreaks with sprouts and wonder if the "gentle baking" would kill such cooties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trihounds Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Changed the title to Alternative Kibble. LOL x2, lol !! Quote Doe's Bruciebaby Doe's Bumper Derek Follow my Ironman journeys and life with dogs, cats and busy kids: A long road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FinnsMom Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Man, they are all about sprouts! I just keep thinking of all the human salmonella and e-coli outbreaks with sprouts and wonder if the "gentle baking" would kill such cooties. Since the sprouted seeds they use are lentil, barley, and flax I don't think there's much to worry about. http://carna4.com/sprouted-seeds When I read sprouts I was thinking alfalfa sprouts and the like as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest june Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I'd call that an alternative to kibble before I'd call it an alternative to raw but it looks like it might be a nice option for someone looking for a higher quality kibble option. Not sure if the cooking method does in fact retain nutrients better, but it's promising if it does (their FAQ claims they've tested their product to confirm it), but the most appealing thing to me would be the use of only products from the USA/Canada and the fact that it's also made at a US facility. Lots of information in their FAQ although this is a total myth: Q: As dogs are carnivores, how can they even gain benefits from eating quality seeds or grains? A: Dogs actually need more nutrients than they can get from meat alone and they need calories without fat, supplied by the right carbohydrate sources. This is demonstrated by dogs left to fend for themselves in the wild. The first thing they eat after killing their prey is its stomach and stomach contents, which includes plants, grasses and seeds in a pre-digested form they can easily absorb. These foods provide the extensive vitamins, minerals and other nutrients needed for a complete and balanced diet. It’s hard however for dogs to benefit from whole, intact grains because they can’t easily break them down through digestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rennina Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I tried this stuff before but my girl didn't like it...And it's expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_daerr Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'd call that an alternative to kibble before I'd call it an alternative to raw but it looks like it might be a nice option for someone looking for a higher quality kibble option. Not sure if the cooking method does in fact retain nutrients better, but it's promising if it does (their FAQ claims they've tested their product to confirm it), but the most appealing thing to me would be the use of only products from the USA/Canada and the fact that it's also made at a US facility. Lots of information in their FAQ although this is a total myth: Q: As dogs are carnivores, how can they even gain benefits from eating quality seeds or grains? A: Dogs actually need more nutrients than they can get from meat alone and they need calories without fat, supplied by the right carbohydrate sources. This is demonstrated by dogs left to fend for themselves in the wild. The first thing they eat after killing their prey is its stomach and stomach contents, which includes plants, grasses and seeds in a pre-digested form they can easily absorb. These foods provide the extensive vitamins, minerals and other nutrients needed for a complete and balanced diet. It’s hard however for dogs to benefit from whole, intact grains because they can’t easily break them down through digestion. Agreed, that Q&A is mostly crap. Dogs are omnivores who do fine with grain under most circumstances. If dogs truly couldn't digest grain, then no domestic dog would've survived in the past 30 years before all the trendy diets came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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