Guest dougbb Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 In his friendly greetings of other dogs on walks, my grey wags his tail, sniffs appropriately, and happily goes on his way. But I noticed recently that his hackles are always raised during these greetings, whether he's saying hi to a dachshund, a Great Dane, or even his greyhound bffs. Anyone else notice this with their hounds? I'd always heard that his is a sign of aggression, but he shows zero other signs of annoyance or fear. He loves other dogs of all shapes and sizes, so maybe it's more a display of excitement? Anyway, just curious to hear from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Summer hackles when she's running with other greyhounds and that's just excitement. The only time she ever hackles at other dogs is when she gets startled in her own yard by the unsocialized Shih Tzu that lives behind us. Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I've met labs and other dogs who do it when happy excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philospher77 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Hackles are a sign of arousal. That could be aggression, excitement, or several other things. It's something to keep an eye on, because it means your dog is getting worked up. Whether that is to suddenly attack a dog or to go darting off because he wants to play, you need to be aware of the potential for sudden activity. Quote My blog about helping Katie learn to be a more normal dog: http://katies-journey-philospher77.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yep, they can be raised in excitement too! Sid gets very excited to meet other greyhounds sometimes - for instance when a friend dropped round unexpectedly with her two, he was beside himself with happiness and excitement to see 1) a hound he already knew and 2) a completely new hound. His hackles were up as far as they could go, but lowered after less than a minute's greeting. Philosopher77 is correct, though, unless your know your dog extremely well, be prepared for unexpected behaviour. Even if you DO know your dog extremely well, it's worth being aware that he or she can jump one way or the other. Quote The plural of anecdote is not dataBrambleberry Greyhounds My Etsy Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Peggy doesn't do hackles to any noticeable extent, but Angel my last one did and she was a Grey x GSD lurcher. Her hackles would come up like the back of a dinosaur at the rare times that she was not sure about another dog's intentions. Hackles up plus ears flat and lips pulled back, plus tail out straight, is the imminent trouble indicator. Semi-raised hackles is more polite to other dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yep, as others have said, its just a sign of arousal. My (mixed breed) foster does it a lot when playing with other dogs at the park and she's incredibly well socialized and good with other dogs. So if his behavior is proper and polite, I wouldn't worry too much. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJane Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Check the state of the tail - if the tail wagging is a fast swishing and is held lower, then it should be OK. If the tail is held out almost level to the back and the wagging is very slow then the dog is in a state that he should be watched because he is "on guard". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FastDogsOwnMe Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I only have one who does this, and only when he's pissed. But it doesn't have to mean that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schultzlc Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 This is a good question that I've often wondered about as well. Luna also raises her hackles when she meets other dogs, or even when we have a get-together with some of her long time buddies. I've never noticed any aggression from her either, so I assumed she was just showing her excitement. She also tends to be a nervous dog, so sometimes I wonder if it's the result of being in an unsure situation. Regardless, I always keep an eye on her when she's with other dogs just to make sure things go smoothly. Quote Laura, mom to Luna (Boc's Duchess) and Nova (Atascocita Venus).Forever in my heart, Phantom (Tequila Nights) and Zippy (Iruska Monte). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dougbb Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thanks for the responses! This is my first dog since childhood, so I'm still learning their language. He always has his tail low and wagging and his ears slightly perked despite the hackles; in the six months I've had him, he's only ever been a model of gentlehoundly behavior with other on-leash dogs. I of course always check out the approaching dog, ask the owner if he/she's friendly, watch my grey closely, and keep the greeting short, but mostly I'm keeping an eye on other dog -- a few dogs here and there transition so quickly from being receptive to saying hi to "oh, wait, now that I think about it you're kinda tall and pointy and scary and YAP YAP YAP." Doug is also still learning that not every dog wants to sniff butts with him, and that maybe that's a good thing. :-) He loves greeting dogs, but there are so many unsocialized apartment pets in my area that it's best to leave the bulk of them be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I'm not a fan of on leash intros in general so I tend to avoid them unless the other dog is CLEARLY well socialized and not overly exuberant and the owner seems capable of handling a loose leash while the meet and greet occurs. Sound advice I've also received from multiple trainers, the greeting should happen for 3 seconds, no more before you call (not pull!) the dogs away. If your dog can't be called away, probably best not to do the intros until he can. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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