Guest firegypsy Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 So I have to bribe Paladin to go out at night. This is new since the panacur, but within the range of normal I guess. Anyway, tonight I got out the treats, lured him downstairs and got him outside. A second later I hear a scream. I got my shoes on and ran out to see the two dogs playing tug of war. With a rabbit. He caught, killed and is currently eating a rabbit. I guess that answers some questions for me regarding raw. I've been doing raw with him (just chicken) and it's been going well-for him. Darby isn't taking to it 100% but is getting there. However after tonight I've no questions-if he's willing to eat what he's caught then I guess raw is the way to go. I've just never had a dog that has eaten it's spoils. It's kind of weird, but biologically normal I guess. In all of this my anxiety is shining through because the directions for panacur state that you shouldn't feed raw meat while they're on it. I couldn't have anticipated this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnedBySummer Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I know wild rabbits tend to have worms... so maybe it's a good thing you are currently treating for that? Quote Lisa B. My beautiful Summer - to her forever home May 1, 2010 Summer Certified therapy dog team with St. John Ambulance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firegypsy Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 that's what I'm worried about! His last dose was tonight. I'm going with he needs another round. Pronto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahsBlackPack Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Rabbits tend to have fleas too! Quote Sarah, mom to Stella and Winston . And to Prince, Katie Z, Malone, Brooke, Freddie, Angel and Fast who are all waiting at the Bridge!www.gpawisconsin.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 (edited) I think the main worm they could get from eating rabbits is hydatid tapes, which Panacur doesn't treat. You need praziquantel for those. That said, my pups have never gotten worms from any prey they've consumed. Edited because I'm wrong. Panacur doesn't treat common dog tapeworms but does treat the Taenia tapes they might get from eating infested prey. Edited August 22, 2011 by Batmom Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuff Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 My husky ate a rabbit (I think the greys caught it) I asked my vet about it and he said the chance of getting a tapeworm from one rabbit was minuscule. Ha also said the type of tapeworm a dog can get from rabbits doesn't cause illness, it's just a cosmetic problem. I have not verified this info, so just one vets thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 My husky ate a rabbit (I think the greys caught it) I asked my vet about it and he said the chance of getting a tapeworm from one rabbit was minuscule. Ha also said the type of tapeworm a dog can get from rabbits doesn't cause illness, it's just a cosmetic problem. I have not verified this info, so just one vets thoughts. I don't even understand this--the worms you can get from a rabbit are "a cosmetic problem"? Seems like an odd thing for a veterinarian to say. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firegypsy Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 My husky ate a rabbit (I think the greys caught it) I asked my vet about it and he said the chance of getting a tapeworm from one rabbit was minuscule. Ha also said the type of tapeworm a dog can get from rabbits doesn't cause illness, it's just a cosmetic problem. I have not verified this info, so just one vets thoughts. I don't even understand this--the worms you can get from a rabbit are "a cosmetic problem"? Seems like an odd thing for a veterinarian to say. agreed....worms can cause hair loss, rashes and all kinds of weird things that are on the "outside," but those are not just cosmetic. They're outward manifestations of a deeper problem. I guess I am just confused. I could be missing something-I'm no expert! I'd not worry about it at all in our case (or not much anyway) if panacur didn't have that explicit warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudzu Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I think the main worm they could get from eating rabbits is hydatid tapes, which Panacur doesn't treat. You need praziquantel for those. That said, my pups have never gotten worms from any prey they've consumed. My understanding is that Panacur does indeed kill the Taenia type of tapeworms which dogs may get from eating their rabbit kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest june Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 As I'm reading this I'm thinking, "Poor bunny." Sorry, I hope your boys don't get worms, but the bunny had it much harder. june Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think the main worm they could get from eating rabbits is hydatid tapes, which Panacur doesn't treat. You need praziquantel for those. That said, my pups have never gotten worms from any prey they've consumed. My understanding is that Panacur does indeed kill the Taenia type of tapeworms which dogs may get from eating their rabbit kills. Ah, you're right, it does! Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LindsaySF Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 If the rabbit is infected (tapeworm cysts in the muscle tissue), the tapeworms won't show up until several weeks from now (that's how long they take to "hatch" and mature), so you'll need to deworm again then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firegypsy Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 If the rabbit is infected (tapeworm cysts in the muscle tissue), the tapeworms won't show up until several weeks from now (that's how long they take to "hatch" and mature), so you'll need to deworm again then. Exactly. The panacur they're on now isn't going to help them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobesmom Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I'm a little confused over the OP. I don't think killing and fighting over a prey animal is really related to eating raw served as a meal. They're just different things. Lots of dogs with zero prey drive eat raw, and lots of dogs with tons of prey drive don't. As far as ill-effects from the rabbit - I really wouldn't worry about it. If your dog had worms, which I assume is why you treated with Panacur - I'd have the stool checked in a month regardless, sometimes it takes a couple treatments, they can reinfect easily from feces. Or maybe the rabbit - but I wouldn't necessarily blame the rabbit. I would suggest putting the dogs on Interceptor monthly, and you're covered. I also never read/heard that dogs shouldn't eat raw on panacur. I believe you, I just never heard that. I've fed raw and used Panacur before, and it was fine. huh. Maybe I goofed! ETA - what does "trigger warning" mean? Edited September 3, 2011 by sobesmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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