Guest anneh Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Hi just thought I would check here for some tips regarding dogs with frequent urination due to taking prednisone. My little non grey has been dx with an auto immune disease and is currently on a high starting dose Of course now she is drinking more water and during the day I have managed her frequent urination because someone is usually home but night time its a different story. Last night I stayed up until after 11p to let her out but at 6a this morning when she barked (I think for food) she had already done a whopping pee. I have been bringing a little bowl of water into bedroom but not sure if I should deny her access to drinking water during the night. I guess I was tired but somehow everything seemed too much and very depressing but I told myself that probably someone on greytalk had an answer for me anneh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicocat Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 My answer has always been to plan on losing a little sleep until their body adjusts to the pred. They just need those shorter hours between trips outside when they start on pred. Quote Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burpdog Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Yes, what she said Do NOT deny her access to water. She needs to flush the kidneys. Quote Diane & The Senior Gang Burpdog Biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anneh Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 thanks to both of you for response and for telling me not to withhold night time water So, generally speaking its possible that it will get easier for her to hold it? I will also put down paper in bathroom and hope she uses it instead anneh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mom2Gr8dawgs Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 So, generally speaking its possible that it will get easier for her to hold it? It does get better. My Toy Poodle, Sassy, has been on prednisone for a little over a year because she has an insulinoma. She had frequent accidents and got us up during the night at first. Now she rarely has an accident and is able to hold it through the night every night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 When B started pred, it took 7-10 days for the Extreme Pee Effect to wear off. For the first 5-6 days, he could make it 6 hours overnight but no longer. I took him out @ 10:30 and then set my alarm for 4:00 so I'd be able to whisk him out. During the day I got him up and out every @ 2 hours until it was obvious he didn't have to go that often. Hugs and much luck going forward. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandm Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 When I had a greyhound on high dose Pred, this is what I did & it seemed to work for us. The dog usually slept on the floor of my son's bedroom anyway. So when she went on Pred, I let her sleep as usual, but closed the bedroom door. I tried to get up once or twice during the night to let her out, but after a few weeks, I became exhausted. If I missed letting her out, she peed on the floor anyway. So I laid plastic (old shower curtains) where she peed, then covered that with old towels. Then all I had to do was launder the towels in the morning. It was not pretty, but it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShantisMom Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Any chance of a dog door? Shanti is on prednisone and we are about to increase the dose. That is my life saver, or my floors life saver. My parents used kids crib waterproof pads (without the mattress wrap arounds on them) on their floors for their old dog. Washed them in the morning. They were large, but easy to wash. Quote The Girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovinggreysslp Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I agree that it will get better. I did lose sleep at the beginning but as the pred dose was decreased, the urgency to pee and drink also decreased. I also agree that you do want your hound to have access to water. Quote Cosmo (Fuzz Face Cosmos), Holmes (He's a Dream), Boomer (USS Baby Boomer), Ella and missing our angels Clay (Red Clay), Train (Nite Train), Trip (Bock's Teddy Bear),Larry (Bohemian Frigid) and Jimmy (Bohemian Raw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona3 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) This hint worked really well for us. Hobbes was on Prednisone and in the beginning was leaking & urinating frequently. We purchased a few bed pads that were water proof on one side & quilted on the other measuring about 29" x 33", just the right size to fit on a dog bed. Then we put an oversized bath towel on top of that. It usually caught the overnight flow and the leaking during the day. Sometimes it was flooded but easy enough to throw in the washer (I washed & dried them together). Eventually he adjusted to the medication and we kept them on the beds for occasional "senior" leaks. You can purchase these mats in most pharmacies. Good luck with your girl and keep us posted on her progress. Edited April 12, 2008 by Fiona3 Quote Hobbes - April 2, 1994 to April 9, 2008-----Tasha - May 23, 2000 to March 31, 2013 Fiona - Aug 29, 2001 to May 5, 2014-----Bailey - March 22, 2001 to Jan 20, 2015 Zeke - June 1, 2004 - Jan 26, 2016----Callie - July 14, 2006 to July 27, 2019 Forever in my heart: Chooch, Molly, Dylan & Lucy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahicks51 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 What's the timing on your dosages? If you only have to give it once a day- maybe wishful thinking in your case, but anyway- give it early in the morning. Quote Coco (Maze Cocodrillo) Minerva (Kid's Snipper) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onrushpam Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 What's the timing on your dosages? If you only have to give it once a day- maybe wishful thinking in your case, but anyway- give it early in the morning. We have managed quite a few dogs on pred for various reasons and various time periods. Timing of the meds is important and totally depends on your life schedule and the dog. It can take some experimenting to figure out what works. It varies from dog to dog as to how soon after the pred is given the dog will have the uncontollable need to pee. It really IS okay to pick up the water at night, IF it is not for too long a time. None of our dogs have access to water from 10-11 pm until 5-6 am. We all go to bed in the bedroom. The babygate gets closed and nobody gets water until morning, when the babygate is opened. If a dog needs to go out in the middle of the night, we let that dog go out, along with however many others want to go along. But, the water bowl is empty. They can't come back in and "tank up". As long as they have free access to water during the day, there is absolutely no reason to provide water throughout the night. Just my experience... Quote Pam GPA-Tallahassee/Southeastern Greyhound Adoption "Fate is unalterable only in the sense that given a cause, a certain result must follow, but no cause is inevitable in itself, and man can shape his world if he does not resign himself to ignorance." Pearl S. Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheila Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I have a senior that CAN hold it some nights and some nights he can't. Even on the nights he can hold it he is dancing by morning and may not make it all the way to the door when he gets up. So middle of the night pee breaks are just part of the routine here. Luckily I have a fenced yard so I can let the hounds out and take a quick potty break myself and have used the time to write in my 'dream log' (a new fascination of mine). I would never withhold water for a dog whose diagnosis and treatment increased the need for frequent hydration and elimination. If a creature is thirsty they should be able to drink, and if they need to pee they should be allowed the opportunity to do it appropriately. Even if it means I have to get up for 5-10 minutes in the middle of the night. Forcing my dog to go w/o water that he craves just because it's inconvenient to me is not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhndz Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I would not withhold water under any circumstances unless the vet specifies that you should do so. If you can't install a dog door, a good alternative is washable potty pads: valethics. I have an iggy who is on pred for autoimmune polyarthritis, and also now developing renal disease, so she does a lot of drinking/peeing. I buy the used pads, pop them on the floor near her bed, and she can potty at will. Then, the pads go into the wash, and the floor isn't peed on (well, except when her aim is off ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longdogs Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 It's just one of those things unfortunately. William was always fine until he was put on pred, then used to have to go out a couple of times a night. On high dosages he couldn't help leaking in his sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anneh Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 How wonderful you all are, thank you for all being so kind and generous with your help. I have read each post and love the encouragement and advice. I will look into the underpads and place them around the bedroom or at least purchase something similar A doggy door would be perfect but won't work for our house but I am blessed to have a fenced yard which is very helpful. I guess its always so helpful when others have gone thru same experience (misery loves company LOL) anneh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cris_M Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Anneh, Two inexpensive things that helped us were plastic tablecloths from the $1 store and $1/yard fabric from Wal-Mart (any fabric store would do). We tossed the tablecloth over Gabriel's bed (it fully covered his bed plus some) and then tossed the soft fabric on top of that (it was maybe 60"X72" -- we are talking a huge bed for a grey here). The nice thing was that the fabric could be washed without filling up the whole washing machine and the tablecloth could be thrown away once it couldn't really get clean anymore. I hope you find something that works for you and your pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kick Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Dealing with this now using: Waterproof picnic blankets - under dog bed/over rugs ...$19 at bed bath beyond Plastic table cloths - over dog beds w/sheet on top easily washable Adult Bed pad protectors -washable (cover dog beds - under table cloths Pet pads-tuck under her bum once she settles down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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