greyhoundlov Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Gidge's urine was checked today as a follow-up to a test in December. Her protein level is up a little. Vet wants to check it again next month. In the meantime, he wants to check her blood pressure. He says sometimes oncoming kidney issues are sometimes preceded by high blood pressure. ?????????? Quote Mary in Houston Everyone has a photographic memory, but not everyone has film. LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyTzu Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 True, there is a correlation. JD, our old Shih Tzu has high blood pressure and his kidney values are askew. He is on two BP meds. and we sprinkle Epakitin, a phosphorus binder, on his food every day. Kidney Disease Quote Wendy and The Whole Wherd. American by birth, Southern by choice. "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!" ****OxyFresh Vendor ID is 180672239.**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suzye Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 (edited) Kidney disease and high blood pressure can be related. Sometimes kidney failure will cause high blood pressure and sometimes high blood pressure can cause kidney problems. Currently my dog has high blood pressure which I believe is caused by kidney failure, but I don't know for sure because her blood pressure was never checked before. That's something I will definitely add to the yearly check-up for future dogs, even it costs an extra fee. It sounds like you have a great vet. If worried about kidney issues, did you check creatinine and BUN? Edited January 25, 2008 by suzye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyTzu Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Something I found out is the most generics Vets don't check BP, nor do they have the equipment to check it. To get JD's checked, I have to drive 20 miles and pay an extra fee, beyond the regular office call. Quote Wendy and The Whole Wherd. American by birth, Southern by choice. "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!" ****OxyFresh Vendor ID is 180672239.**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greyladydown Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Gidge's urine was checked today as a follow-up to a test in December. Her protein level is up a little. Vet wants to check it again next month. In the meantime, he wants to check her blood pressure. He says sometimes oncoming kidney issues are sometimes preceded by high blood pressure. ?????????? Absolutely! We went through this with our eldest greyhound this summer. His blood pressure got so high, so fast that he sneezed out blood clots. Everything happened so quickly and we almost lost him, but he's fine now. Kidney's are back to normal, although he'll be on medications for his blood pressure the rest of his life. Something I found out is the most generics Vets don't check BP, nor do they have the equipment to check it. To get JD's checked, I have to drive 20 miles and pay an extra fee, beyond the regular office call. Same here. Our vet uses a traveling specialist that comes to her office when we need to check blood pressure. BTW, normal blood pressure in greyhounds runs higher than most other breeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Snowy8 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I did not know this....I learn so much here on GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MorganKonaAlex Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Kona's BP was very high and she was put on BP meds with her kidney failure. I'm not sure which was the cause or the side effect. But she perked up a lot after starting the BP meds. What position are your greys in when the BP is checked? We were getting widely varying readings. My local Vet and the renal specialist conferred and decided the BPs must be taken while she was lying down. The specialist said there was a recent study that BP wasn't accurate if the dog was standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 We have checked Zema's BP a couple times. Apparently GH BP's can run a bit higher, normal for GH being up to @ 180. My vet has a portable doppler unit, quick and easy, no trauma for the dog other than being in the vet's office in the first place! That is an issue for Zema -- we believe she is testing higher than her BP really is because she is tense and frightened ..... However, we have seen a reduction in her "I'm terrified" BP after switching to a no-salt-added homecooked diet. dmswartzfager also has some experience with GH BP's so you might PM her for more info. Hope Gidge's protein etc. are just little blips and she is healthy as can be. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_the4pack Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Yes, hypertension can cause or be caused by kidney disease. In Pearl's case it looks like the kidney disease caused the high BP. The kidney disease was caused by a bad tooth!!! So keep those toofes clean!!! For anyone interested. Once you get a baseline BP on your grey, you can go to any medical supply store and buy a sphegomamanometer (I think I spelled it right) with an infant cuff. (for humans). $20 With your dog laying down take the BP from the bottom front leg (or tail if you were able to get the smallest cuff possible). ANd watch the needle as you release the pressure. It will start bouncing at the point that the blood starts flowing through. It is not as accurate as listening to the pulse, but it's a good way to keep track. That's how I knew Pearl's BP was running over 240 when she was on prednisone. I got concerned. Took her in for an official reading. When they saw how high her BP was she was immediately started on the weaning process. And you need to have a baseline so that you can tell when you read the needle how close you are to the real numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ss556 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Alan has glomerularnephritis - a form of kidney disease. My vet did a BP check when he was diagnosed and it was good he did. Alan's BP was 250's and up. He was put on benazepril and norvasc and spironolactone for life, twice a day. It has dropped the BP, but it's hard to tell what it really is, as he is high strung at the vet's and his BP does rise during testing. And he takes 1/2 baby aspirin daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spider9174 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 hypertension can be a symptom of kidney disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trudy Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 If your vet does surgery, they likely have the ability to do BP checks as I would think (just a guess) that vets would monitor BPs during surgery. I know my vet does. And correct, you will not get an accurate BP read if a dog is standing - kind of like how a person needs to have a relaxed arm for BP readings... standing is not relaxed due to the pressure. Ryan did about a 30 min BP study at our vet in Oct/Nov. I brought in a nasty raw marrow bone and he followed me into the ER where the vet laid out a bunch of blankets on the floor for us, hooked Ryan up and left. Each time he walked in, Ryan's BP spiked We had the option of laying down outside as well since Ryan is very nervous at the vet, but it was quite chilly that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest suzye Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Something I found out is the most generics Vets don't check BP, nor do they have the equipment to check it. To get JD's checked, I have to drive 20 miles and pay an extra fee, beyond the regular office call. Wow... I guess I have it good. I was stunned the first time when they charged $25, but my regular vet can do it, and I guess $25 isn't that bad. What position are your greys in when the BP is checked? We were getting widely varying readings. My local Vet and the renal specialist conferred and decided the BPs must be taken while she was lying down. The specialist said there was a recent study that BP wasn't accurate if the dog was standing. Uh oh.... I saw them take Jazz's last time and they lifted her (automated) on to some giant $30,000 machine. She was standing. I think greyhounds are supposed to be 149 +- 20. Most breeds are supposed to be in the 130s. Jazz's last reading was 163. She's on Benazepril 10mg twice daily. It's been a struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundlov Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Gidge's bp was 120. She is having 3 teeth extracted on Tuesday. Quote Mary in Houston Everyone has a photographic memory, but not everyone has film. LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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