Burpdog

I feel so sad Many of the old timers remember Maria was involved with our Rememberance Fund on GT. She cared, and she understood. From a correspondence we had regarding said fund (from 2004): I really hope she had people with her this past year who understood and gently helped her move on. Kiss all the babies for us Maria.....

A stuffy? Sending lots of prayers.

Sending prayers for peace and comfort

Sending my sympathy My heart sunk when I saw the title of the thread. Run like the wind sweet girl

Sending lots of prayers!

Knowing what others have gone thru who opted for surgery (it wasn't pretty), I would do the same as you are doing. I know how heartbreaking it is Eat lots of ice cream together!

Nothing on the counters My friend calls it "shopping" Her dobe did it all the time.

Should have done a culture. 7 days in my experience is not long enough. At least 10 and maybe 14.

Back to the OP's question: Yes, you can use alternative methods and be successful. None of my seniors have had a NSAID since rimadyl killed my first greyhound. I (and many others here), use Joint Health and Fresh Factors from Springtime Inc. I've tried other brands on dogs that are very painful and the results are not as good. I've been using Springtime products for almost 20 years. Acupuncture and chiropractic are wonderful. Dr. Robinett has been adjusting my dogs since 1998. She now has a rehab clinic and the underwater treadmill is quite affordable and helps. When the "kids" get real old and bad, I've added pred. Lucky -- all of the ones who needed it, tolerated it.

Bringing to the top

How much tramadol was he on? Many vets underdose it. Has he had a TBD panel done?

I have found people who say that haven't used the right brand or amount to give. With blood work like that, I would not treat but that is my personal opinion. Just FYI, his HCT is fine, but should not go under 50 PCRs are not the end all because the particular sample taken may or may not have critters in it. In other words, your dog can be positive for a particular disease and have it not show up.

What exactly is his blood work? Especially RBC, HCT & PLT? Imicarb can be well tolerated and can be bad--depends. Most do not treat 1:80 I believe it is atropine. In addition, the needle must be changed after drawing the med. In the rump and alternate sides. Most of his symptoms can be associated with his paws. Is he on supplements?

The dog needs to go to the vet.

Yes, the first time can make them uncomfortable for a day or two if they are really out of alignment. It should get better.

I haven't read all the replies. Did he see a specialist? It's a must.

What a cute little guy! Sending my sympathy

I've used 100mg every 4 hours. Also have added morphine to the mix. No to loss of appetite on tramadol but yes on morphine.

I remember LynnM having a guy with a severe bone infection in the leg they managed to treat. Stomach meds: cannot stress them enough. Carafate is very good. Try EVO canned, 95% meat.

Health Packet Is this vet familar with greyhounds? There is a different sound than other dogs. If I remember right, there is an echo type effect. From Dr. Feeman's health packet: HEART SOUNDS The heart sounds normally heard in healthy dogs are S1 (associated with closure tensing of the AV valves at the onset of systole) and S2 (associated with closure of the aortic and pulmonic valves at the end of the systole). In addition to these normal sounds, other sounds may be present, such as heart murmurs. Heart murmurs (abnormal heart sounds) are not usually part of the normal cardiac physiology, however, sometimes they are not clinically significant. The heart murmurs are described by their timing during the cardiac cycle as systolic (when the heart is emptying or diastolic (when the heart is filling). The intensity of a murmur is graded on a 1 to 6 scale, and its point of maximal intensity is located and described as apex (apical or lower part of the heart) or base (basilar or top portion of the heart). In 2006 we made the observation that a grade 1-2/ 6 left basilar systolic murmur was ausculted in many Greyhound blood donors, without evidence of abnormalities on echocardiograms, sometimes the murmur is not heard by auscultation of the heart, but the finding of a bruit (a heart sound heard over a vessel), which is heard using a stethoscope in the carotid artery in the neck, confirm the presence of the murmur. In our study, we found that the b1ood flow velocity in the aortic valve in the Greyhounds with murmurs was significantly higher than in the Greyhounds without murmurs. In conclusion, although a soft murmur is common in adult Greyhounds, it does not appear to be associated with a congenital defect (e.; it is normal in sight hounds) or any CBC differences unique to this breed. Due to these peculiarities in the Greyhound, we frequently receive referrals or consults of Greyhounds suspected of having heart disease, when indeed these findings are normal breed-related idiosyncrasies. This should be taken into account to avoid misdiagnosis and unnecessary medication.

I'd take with the vet and have it out next week.

Sending my sympathy

Sending my sympathy. How difficult to lose them so close together

Good news! 2.2 is normal for my guys in creatine. As long as that BUN stays normal!

I'll disagree Most dogs will sleep the night if they don't have to go. There is nothing worse than having to go and not being able to. If you have to go in the middle of the night, no one makes you hold it Don't kid yourself: there are wet crates at the track at times. When you got to go, you got to go!!!