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  1. Thank you for your reply! Does Rocket also have gas? Poor Max has had the most lethal gas since we've gotten him. I've started him on probiotics (just over the counter capsules, twice daily). I haven't taken him back to the vet yet, because it's just getting so expensive, and I am on a student budget :(

    What is Tylan? Does Rocket have to take it every day? The vet suspected that Max may have IBS, but he wanted to give him cortisone to sort it out, and I balked at that. I'm not super keen on giving the dog cortisone.

    I'm glad to hear that about the Panacur. The vet did not believe me that it was helping with Max's stools. Glad I'm not crazy!

    Also, Rocket is ADORABLE! <3

     

    Rocket says thanks!

     

    His stomach distress often starts with gas, especially in the wee hours. He usually has tummy squeals and sometimes he will pace and want to go out. When he goes out, he tries to eat grass. i know he's having issues when he turns down food. At this point, I will give him a Gas-X (regular - no acid reducers or additives.) I will also offer him some saltines or ginger snaps depending on which he will take. He will usually take some of those even if turning down kibble. i try to get something in him just to keep his tummy from growling. About 15 minutes after Gas-X, there will be a loud belch. That's fine. The we move on to some runs and bloody, mucousy stools. This is the stomach getting rid of whatever is irritating it according to my vet.

     

    Tylan is Tylosin which i see you already have. I have not heard of a vet trying all three of those together. Panacur for the usual 3 doses, Metronidazole for about 10 days, and another round of Panacur is the usual course to start. Tylan seems to be more of a long term solution, In Rocket's case, I give it with both daily meals, and we've not had any issues since. I will also give him one if he is going to have something unusual, like a meaty bone. We just had our first real success when he was boarded for 3 weeks and still had firm stools afterward. It seems like he usually gets tummy issues after boarding.

     

    One thing we learned with Rocket is that all of the usual suggestions like probiotics, yogurt, and pumpkin make him worse. They do not help him. it is important to only make one change in diet at a time, otherwise you won't know what actually works. Giving a bland diet of boiled ground beef or chicken and overcooked rice or pasta along with those meds will allow the tummy to heal. I use Evanger's Canned Organic Chicken along with very mushy rice when feeding bland diets. It;s less work and seems to work well for him. Once the bloody stools stop and things firm up a little, i slowly transition back to kibble about 1/4 cup at a time, slowly reducing the bland food.

     

    What food are you using?You also need to be aware that some treats will cause bigger issues than food. You need to change one thing at a time in order to figure out what the actual cause is.

     

    We have had the best luck with 2 foods, Precise Foundation Chicken Meal and Rice, and Precise Senior Kibble. I'm not sure if you can get those in Canada. Both are very bland and very digestible, but as everyone here will attest to, it;s just trial and error until you find what works for your hound. Many people also have great success with IAMS green bag when nothing else works. If it works, don't knock it . There is nothing wrong with feeding your dog what works for him, even if some people think it;s a lesser food than other brands. This is all about finding what works best for your hound and keeps you out of the vet's office.

     

    Sorry to write a book, but these are the things that have worked for us and I wanted to make sure i included all of it.

     

    Hope Max is feeling better soon.

     

    Edited to add - please forgive typos - it's been a long day.

  2. Depending on the type of worms, you may have to de-worm more than once a few weeks apart.

     

    As far as the bland diet, I usually find that its easier on the tummy to go to 4 smaller feedings a day than 2 larger ones. I just eyeball it and give about the same volume of food, even though the calories are fewer. The goal is to make the stomach work less and give it a little break from digesting kibble.

     

    Rice or pasta must be very mushy and way overcooked to be effective. I usually use about 3 cups of liquid per cup of rice.

     

    After numerous tummy issues with Rocket, the combination that works best for him is Evanger Organic Canned Chicken (it's a dog food) mixed with very mushy rice. I make a big batch of rice and just heat it a little in the microwave before adding it to the canned food. He licks the dish clean, and the canned food is very mushy and easier to digest than chicken cut or chopped by hand.

     

    We used to give metronidazole along with the bland diet and he would firm up after a week or so. The vet finally put him on Tylan full time. No tummy problems since starting the Tylan.

  3. We had a bite incident when a friend reached down to pet Rocket on his bed and he was sound asleep. She even knew better, but forgot.

     

    The doctor had to report it, so we got the visit from AC. Fortunately, the AC officer understood what had happened and the fact that Rocket was loving her up the whole time didn't hurt. He ended up being on house arrest for 2 weeks, no walks in public allowed at all. The alternative was that AC would take him to their facility for a 2 week hold. That was not going to be an option.

     

    If AC shows up and tries to take your hound, do not turn him over to them. Ask them to leave and contact the Lexus Project for advice. http://thelexusproject.org/

     

    it won't hurt to contact The Lexus Project in advance for advice what you should or shouldn't say during the AC visit.

     

    As far as moving on, the walker has to be someone that your hound trusts. Not someone who just shows up in his house and tries to take him out. It's a process, just as everything else is while your hound figures out what is expected of him in his new life.

     

    Good luck.

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    :bgeorge - Sorry. Had to do it.

     

    Most of us have given up on lawns long ago, but you are right about them getting hurt by the holes. It is necessary to fill them back in as much as possible if they are a hazard. if it's a few big holes that you can live with, you might try filling them with sand and see if they will only dig in those spots. Then it's easy to fill the sand back in.

  5. He's most likely bored. The best bet is to wear him out with play and long walks.

     

    Rawhides are a choking hazard, so he should not be left unattended with one while no one is home. I won't use rawhide at all since it can break off and damage the tummy.

     

    Nylabone might be a better choice and maybe a Kong with some frozen treats in it.

     

    Good luck!

  6. Rocket has had similar bouts of loose stools, bloody stools etc.

     

    There have been a few occasions when I tried Panacur just in case there were worms that were undetected, and his stools firmed up. It was like we had a new hound in about 24 hours. Sometimes it fixed the problem for a long time, and sometimes it was only a temporary fix. Panacur seems to soothe the tummy and firm things up. We've seen that happen several times.

     

    Our vet doesn't think that Rocket has IBS, but probably has bouts of Stress Colitis triggered by various changes to his routine. We have put him on Tylan and had no more issues.

     

    It takes a while to figure out what's going on, but the Panacur having the effect you describe is not out of the ordinary in our experience.

  7. A fluffy cat probably looks more like a racing lure to your hound.

     

    Others who have had this issue will be able to provide some help here, but you should also contact the adoption coordinator at your group and ask for some help as well. The group is there to support you and your hound, and will most likely have a member who can help you work through this.

     

    Good luck!

  8. Definitely try a Gas-X. Been through this with Rocket many times, and you will probably hear a loud belch or fart shortly after. Rocket just takes the Gas-X and swallows it. It will take longer to work if you put it in something, so plain is better.

     

    Also, offer him a graham cracker, saltines, or a ginger snap (works better if you call it a cookie or treat) to get a little something in his tummy. A missed meal is fine. He will want to eat when the gas subsides.

  9. Make sure your boyfriend takes him out before he leaves the house and lets him do his business. Sometimes the excitement of someone leaving will get them worked up, especially if he thinks he gets to go for a ride and then doesn't. Either way, it;s always good to make the last thing anyone does before leaving a hound alone is take them out, in case you get delayed returning to the house.

     

    These hounds are very adaptable. Routine is great, but most do just fine when the routine varies a little.

  10. You might want to look at the website for Precise Pet Foods and see if they have anything that meets your needs. http://precisepet.com/

     

    Rocket has done well on both the Precise Foundation Chicken Meal and Rice, as well as their Senior Kibble. We ultimately got his tummy issues under control with Tylan, but he did best on these foods for longer time periods than on other foods. Now, with the addition of Tylan, the food is working great for him.

     

    The various foods can be a little hard to find depending on your location, but we are able to order from WAG.com and Petflow. If we were in a larger city, we probably wouldn't have to order online, as it seems they have plenty of dealers in major cities. I am also able to have a local Feed and Tack store order it for me. .

  11. Our 85lbs male grey has eaten something in the yard and now has terrible gas and possibly a stomach ache. Is it ok to give him pepto bismol and if so how much? Like I said he weighs 85lbs and it quite meaty. Thanks. Also any suggestion would be helpful.

     

    For Gas Pains - GasX works better. just make sure to get the kind that is plain Gas-X, not Acid control or other varieties. You will usually hear a loud belch shortly after giving it.

     

    Pepto is fine for diarrhea. I usually start with 1 tablet and see how it goes. I will give a second one if it persists. Pepto will turn tongue and stool black. Nothing to be alarmed about. You might need to put the Pepto tablet in cheese.

     

    I would start with the Gas X and monitor from there.

  12. Definitely a vet check first. Then if you need to re-home her, contact your original adoption group. If your group no longer exists, or you are unable to contact them for any reason, post your location here. There are numerous people here affiliated with groups who can connect you with someone who will have your pup's best interest in mind when they re-home her. It is important that the group find the right home, especially if she continues to have issues that need to be dealt with.

     

    There is no harm or shame in returning her if that's what has to be done. The safety of your family, and your greyhound may depend on it. As much as we all hate to think about having to return one of our hounds, it may ultimately be a lifesaving decision for your hound.

     

    Good luck, I hope it all works out for you.

  13. Given the experience you've had with local vets, you might consider a consult with the diagnostic clinics at either Penn State Vet Med in State College, or U Penn Vet Med in Philly. I've always heard great things about both of them.

     

    Good luck. Hope you can get some relief for Dylan.

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