Guest wylie_coyote Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I took Magic in for his heartworm check the other week and had them run a senior blood panel so we can have a baseline as he gets older. I don't think anything is wrong with him, just thought it was a good idea to have a baseline (the scientist in me). Magic is currently 6 and seems to be in good health, and has a good energy level. Magic has always had a hard time keeping weight on, even on the track. Anyway the only only things that seems out of range is the Creatinine level is high and the T4 is low. So my questions? What is a typical Creatinine and T4 level for a greyhound? Actually do any or all these ranges apply to greyhounds? Is there a set of standard ranges that we should look at for our hounds? The actual results are below any advice or comments would be appreciated. The oldest(7) will be having this done at his visit too. ______________________________________ Tests Results Ref. Range Units Tests Results Ref. Range Units Total Protein 6.1 5.0-7.4 g/dL Albumin 3.5 2.7-4.4 g/dL Globulin 2.6 1.6-3.6 g/dL AVG Ratio 1.3 0.8-2.0 Ratio AST (SGOT) 50 15-66 U/L ALT (SGPT) 45 12-118 U/L AIk Phosphatase 35 5-131 U/L GGTP 5 1-12 U/L Total Bilirubin 0.2 0.1-0.3 mg/dL Urea Nitrogen 6-31 mg/dL Creatinine 0.5-1.6 mg/dL BUN/Creatinine Ra 4-27 Ratio Phosphorus 2.5-6.0 mg/dL G1ucose 116 7--138 mg/dL Calcium 10.0 8.9-11.4 mg/dL Magnesium 1.6 1.5-2.5 mEq/L Sodium 147 139-154 mEq/L Potassium 3.9 3.6-5.5 mEq/L NalK Ratio 38 Chloride 110 102-120 mEq/L Cholesterol 153 92-324 mg/dL Triglycerides 47 29-291 mg/dL Amylase 762 290-1125 U/L Lipase 1254 (HIGH) 77-695 U/L CPK 166 59-895 U/L WBC 5.9 4.0-15.5 103/μL RBC 8.3 4.8-9.3 106/μL Hemoglobin 19.9 12.1-20.3 g/dL Hematocrit 56 36-60 % MCV 67 58-79 fL MCH 24.0 19-28 pg MCHC 35.5 30-38 g/dL Platelet Count 203 170-400 103/μL Platelet EST Adequate Adequate Differential Absolute % Neutrophils 3009 51 2060-10600 /uL Bands 0 0 0-300 /uL Lymphocytes 2301 39 690-4500 /uL Monocytes 590 10 0-840 /uL Eosinophils 0 0 0-1200 /uL Basophils a 0 0-150 /uL Comment Hemolysis 1+ No signiiicant interference. HEARTWoRM ANTIGEN Occult Heartworm Antigen Negative There were no measurable amounts of adult female heartworm antigen in this sa not be detected for 5 to 7 months following e:lg)osureto early larval stages. TOTAL T4 T4 Note new Canine reference range Test Requested Results Units Ie. Adult Dirofilaria immitis antigens will ug/dL The Total T4 result is less than 1.0 mcg/dl. A Free- T4 by equilibrium dialysis may be helpful in supporting the diagnosis of hypothyroidism in patients demonstrating clinical signs compatible with hypothyroidism. Please use test code 9816 for this additional testing. URINALYSIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoduck Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) I'm not seeing the actual creatinine result, just the range: Creatinine: greyhound .8 - 1.6 other dogs .0 - 10 T4 could be OK. Are there any clinical signs of thyroid problems? T4 for greyhounds .5 - 3.6 other dogs 1.52 - 3.60 Edited May 14, 2013 by macoduck Quote Freshy (Droopys Fresh), NoAh the podenco orito, Howie the portuguese podengo maneto Angels: Rita the podenco maneta, Lila, the podenco, Mr X aka Denali, Lulu the podenco andaluz, Hada the podenco maneta, Georgie Girl (UMR Cordella), Charlie the iggy, Mazy (CBR Crazy Girl), Potato, my mystery ibizan girl, Allen (M's Pretty Boy), Percy (Fast But True), Mikey (Doray's Patuti), Pudge le mutt, Tessa the iggy, Possum (Apostle), Gracie (Dusty Lady), Harold (Slatex Harold), "Cousin" Simon our step-iggy, Little Dude the iggy ,Bandit (Bb Blue Jay), Niña the galgo, Wally (Allen Hogg), Thane (Pog Mo Thoine), Oliver (JJ Special Agent), Comet, & Rosie our original mutt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 What you posted looks fine but, I don't see the renal values nor the T4 (which is most likely low). I'd you run a U/A too? Wonderful idea to get baseline values! http://www.greyhound-data.com/dir/446/Making_Sense_of_Blood_Work_in_Greyhounds.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeofNE Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I think it's a little nutty for a vet to suggest a six year old needs a senior panel--which at the vet I use costs a heck of a lot more than a normal blood work up-- George's creatinine is ALWAYS high. Unless his BUN is also elevated, it's probably meaningless. Quote Susan, Hamish, Mister Bigglesworth and Nikita Stanislav. Missing Ming, George, and Buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 A "senior panel" is usually just a CBC + chemistry + urinalysis, with heartworm and maybe T4 added as above. Those are useful things to run for every dog, every year. Sometimes the chemistry for a senior panel adds/subtracts a few values from the comprehensive chemistry -- for example, some focus on kidney and liver values. This one looks pretty comprehensive. Usually the panels are a bit cheaper than ordering the tests separately. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wylie_coyote Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 So I guess my scanning abilities are lacking as well as my proof reading, but yes several results are missing from above. The Creatinine was 1.8 and the T4 was 0.5. So not terrible high or low. Thank you for the values macoduck, and tbhounds that is a lot of info in the pdf I will need to digest it but looks very informative, thank you. But this was our idea not the Vet. I have issue with the way human doctors and vets look and say everything is in range but do not have any individual data to make that assumption. Everyone is different so the "normal" ranges may not apply that is why we did a base line now. And yes it was cheaper to run this then do individual test. With shots and this panel my bill was less then 200.00 I thought it was reasonable. As always the people of greytalk have answers and help thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Greyhounds can run a little high on creatinine. If the BUN is normal (or just 1-2 mg/dL above normal) and urinalysis isn't showing protein loss, then you wouldn't worry. Sounds like you got a good deal on all that . We like to have a comprehensive workup periodically too. Sometimes you catch treatable things early, and if the dog does become ill, it's very helpful to have a healthy baseline for comparison. Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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