NeylasMom Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I keep reading that a small amount in urine is normal, especially in male dogs, but there's no reference scale so how do I know what a "small amount" is? Zuri's is 2+ or in one in house reading it's just listed as "large". Help? Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF_in_Georgia Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Jen, do you know what abbreviation they'd use on lab results? (because of course they wouldn't just say "bilirubin in urine")I have super-healthy 7-year-old Tigger's lab results from last year from IDEXX, and it lists their reference range. (And they knew it was a greyhound.) I can tell you what his test said, if you can tell me what I'm looking for. Quote Kathy and Q (CRT Qadeer from Fuzzy's Cannon and CRT Bonnie) and Jane (WW's Aunt Jane from Trent Lee and Aunt M); photos to come. Missing Silver (5.19.2005-10.27.2016), Tigger (4.5.2007-3.18.2016), darling Sam (5.10.2000-8.8.2013), Jacey-Kasey (5.19.2003-8.22.2011), and Oreo (1997-3.30.2006) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF_in_Georgia Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Okay. On the Microscopy page, I found an entry that just says "Bilirubin" with +1 for results, but doesn't list a reference range. Quote Kathy and Q (CRT Qadeer from Fuzzy's Cannon and CRT Bonnie) and Jane (WW's Aunt Jane from Trent Lee and Aunt M); photos to come. Missing Silver (5.19.2005-10.27.2016), Tigger (4.5.2007-3.18.2016), darling Sam (5.10.2000-8.8.2013), Jacey-Kasey (5.19.2003-8.22.2011), and Oreo (1997-3.30.2006) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 It actually says Bilirubin Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KF_in_Georgia Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Okay, then. When Tigger had "+1," they didn't put any comments on it or give a range. Sorry this isn't more helpful. Edited March 31, 2015 by KF_in_Georgia Quote Kathy and Q (CRT Qadeer from Fuzzy's Cannon and CRT Bonnie) and Jane (WW's Aunt Jane from Trent Lee and Aunt M); photos to come. Missing Silver (5.19.2005-10.27.2016), Tigger (4.5.2007-3.18.2016), darling Sam (5.10.2000-8.8.2013), Jacey-Kasey (5.19.2003-8.22.2011), and Oreo (1997-3.30.2006) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4My2Greys Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Looking at Chase's urinalysis from Idexx the reference range given is NEG TO 1+. His level was 3+ immediately following his episode with rhabdo. It is back down to 1+ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Jen, I'm at work, so I don't have it with me, but the CRRG has an index with a bunch of reference ranges and scenarios. Not sure if they say anything about bilirubin, but might be worth a peep if you have it handy. Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Jen, I'm at work, so I don't have it with me, but the CRRG has an index with a bunch of reference ranges and scenarios. Not sure if they say anything about bilirubin, but might be worth a peep if you have it handy. I had looked at it the other night. It just shows a normal urine profile with bilirubin being negative. Says bilirubin in urine isn't normal for a greyhound and lists diet as a cause (wouldn't apply here because the samples weren't taken anywhere near his mealtime). Then there's a tiny little paragraph where it says a more likely causes is stress causing the release of cortisol, which I think leads us back to the "water disease" or some adrenal thing. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, crap. I've got nothin'. Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, crap. I've got nothin'. Well if my vets have noticed it, they are apparently completely unconcerned, but at this point I'm looking for anything that would give us clues. I'd ask the specialist about it, but apparently she's never going to call me back. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Bilirubin is not unusual to be found in a urinalysis. Usually the reference range is neg to +1 but, to be honest I have seen a lot of +2 results in completely healthy dogs (FYI--you should never see bili in a feline u/a). Keep in mind also that the number can be increased with an elevated USG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeylasMom Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Bilirubin is not unusual to be found in a urinalysis. Usually the reference range is neg to +1 but, to be honest I have seen a lot of +2 results in completely healthy dogs (FYI--you should never see bili in a feline u/a). Keep in mind also that the number can be increased with an elevated USG. Yeah, specialist confirmed this for me today. Quote Jen, CPDT-KA with Zuri, lab in a greyhound suit, Violet, formerly known as Faith, Skye, the permanent puppy, Cisco, resident cat, and my baby girl Neyla, forever in my heart "The great thing about science is that you're free to disagree with it, but you'll be wrong." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Humm-greyt minds! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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