Guest starr511 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Is there any medications for UTI that don't make a greyhound's stomach upset? Star has been on 2 different meds and both make her sick to the point where she no longer has an appetite. Are there any vets/anyone else on the forum that might give me some suggestions. This would greatly be appreciated. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Might want to ask your vet about getting a convenia injection rather than give oral meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnF Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Apart from giving a dose of antibiotic at night (it will stay in the urinary tract longer), there's injections as already mentioned. Also put a spoon of live culture yoghurt on the dog's food because even though the next tablet may kill most of it off at least some of it may get to stay and help retain a protective biofilm along the gut walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytexplorer Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Convenia injection! One and Done! I have been the convenia advocate here on GT for at least 2 years. Mandy is a horrible pill-taker, so it just makes sense for her to get the injection. AND convenia covers several "bugs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starr511 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I am going to call my vet Monday and see if he will give her the shot. Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmom Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If the injection isn't an option (can't imagine it wouldn't be, but still), what we do is: - Give 1 regular Pepcid (10mg famotidine) - Wait 30-40 minutes - Feed meal or substantial snack (such as a piece of bread) - Give pill Hugs and best luck! Quote Star aka Starz Ovation (Ronco x Oneco Maggie*, litter #48538), Coco aka Low Key (Kiowa Mon Manny x Party Hardy, litter # 59881), and mom in IllinoisWe miss Reko Batman (Trouper Zeke x Marque Louisiana), 11/15/95-6/29/06, Rocco the thistledown whippet, 04/29/93-10/14/08, Reko Zema (Mo Kick x Reko Princess), 8/16/98-4/18/10, the most beautiful girl in the whole USA, my good egg Joseph aka Won by a Nose (Oneco Cufflink x Buy Back), 09/22/2003-03/01/2013, and our gentle sweet Gidget (Digitizer, Dodgem by Design x Sobe Mulberry), 1/29/2006-11/22/2014, gone much too soon. Never forgetting CJC's Buckshot, 1/2/07-10/25/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Apart from giving a dose of antibiotic at night (it will stay in the urinary tract longer), there's injections as already mentioned. Also put a spoon of live culture yoghurt on the dog's food because even though the next tablet may kill most of it off at least some of it may get to stay and help retain a protective biofilm along the gut walls. You have to be careful with this, depending on which antibiotic is being used. For example, you cannot use dairy products within 2 hours of administering doxycycline as dairy inhibits the absorbtion of the drug. It's not likely that doxy is being used for a UTI, but it's always a good idea to check with the vet first to see if dairy products will counteract or otherwise interfere with the a/b Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 On the same thought as the post above some ab's need to be given without food i.e. Orbax/baytril. So yes, always check with your vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starr511 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Doxy is what the vet gave her. Should I suggest something else? She stopped eatting her dog food on Saturday. We've been this route before with her. She will eat *people food* and dog treats. I'm wondering if she stopped eatting because I was hiding her pill in soft dog food along with her hard food. Also, I was adding yogurt to this mixture. Now, I read this is not good to do. Some time ago, I was reading here on the forum, can't find it now, about a vet on facebook? Anyone remember this post? Sounds like that person would be good to add as a *friend*? Please keep the suggestions coming as I am a newbie dog owner and need lots of help. Thanks again I forgot to add that Star had an x-ray and the vet didn't see any stones. But she did have a lot of stool in her intestines. Maybe another x-ray is needed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotaina Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Did they do a culture and determine doxy is the best choice? Did they try her on amoxy first? I just posted something on treating UTIs and the research presented suggested that amoxy should be used as an initial treatment, however if your vet did a C&S, s/he may have thought doxy more appropriate for the particular organism. If you find my post - it may be on page 2 or so of this forum - there's a link to the research. A few pages in, they list drugs that can be used to treat UTIs. Many, if not most, dogs tolerate doxy just fine, so it's a bummer that Star is not falling into that group. Keflex may be an option for you, assuming amoxy has already been tried. Really, there are a lot of different meds that can be used. I'd just let your vet know that she's having trouble and see what else he/she can suggest. Anyway, yeah, no dairy within 2 hours doxy Hope you can find something to get rid of the infection that doesn't upset her tummy! Quote Meredith with Heyokha (HUS Me Teddy) and Crow (Mike Milbury). Missing Turbo (Sendahl Boss), Pancho, JoJo, and "Fat Stacks" Juana, the psycho kitty. Canku wakan kin manipi."Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devotion Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If amoxicillin or doxy isn't working may need to use baytril. they use this antibiotic for uti and really bad bacteria infections. and you can take baytril with food. it may delay but will not hinder absorption capability. baytril can cause some nasty side effects so be warned. however, i've never experienced digestive problems as one of the issues. Quote Pam with greys Avril, Dalton & Zeus & Diddy the dachshund & Miss Buzz the kitty Devotion, Jingle Bells, Rocky, Hans, Harbor, Lennon, NoLa, Scooter, Naomi and Scout at the bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If amoxicillin or doxy isn't working may need to use baytril. they use this antibiotic for uti and really bad bacteria infections. and you can take baytril with food. it may delay but will not hinder absorption capability. baytril can cause some nasty side effects so be warned. however, i've never experienced digestive problems as one of the issues. Gotta diagree here- certain foods and some medication containing zinc, iron, magnesium..... wlll bind with the medication preventing proper absorption. Kind of surprised the OP's vet first used doxy to treat the infection-- not really the first go to drug to treat UtI's. Perhap a urine culture/mic was run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devotion Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If amoxicillin or doxy isn't working may need to use baytril. they use this antibiotic for uti and really bad bacteria infections. and you can take baytril with food. it may delay but will not hinder absorption capability. baytril can cause some nasty side effects so be warned. however, i've never experienced digestive problems as one of the issues. Gotta diagree here- certain foods and some medication containing zinc, iron, magnesium..... wlll bind with the medication preventing proper absorption. Kind of surprised the OP's vet first used doxy to treat the infection-- not really the first go to drug to treat UtI's. Perhap a urine culture/mic was run? been with more vets than ever thought possible the last couple of weeks and vet school etc. Food will not interfere with baytril. not a vet there would agree. like i said it may delay but not hinder absorption capability. my girls on this for encephalitis and believe you me they know the meds at the vet school. again will not hinder absorption capability. no argument on you knowing stuff but this one's wrong. Quote Pam with greys Avril, Dalton & Zeus & Diddy the dachshund & Miss Buzz the kitty Devotion, Jingle Bells, Rocky, Hans, Harbor, Lennon, NoLa, Scooter, Naomi and Scout at the bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If amoxicillin or doxy isn't working may need to use baytril. they use this antibiotic for uti and really bad bacteria infections. and you can take baytril with food. it may delay but will not hinder absorption capability. baytril can cause some nasty side effects so be warned. however, i've never experienced digestive problems as one of the issues. Gotta diagree here- certain foods and some medication containing zinc, iron, magnesium..... wlll bind with the medication preventing proper absorption. Kind of surprised the OP's vet first used doxy to treat the infection-- not really the first go to drug to treat UtI's. Perhap a urine culture/mic was run? I don't want to stray from the op's original post but, this is one of those things that you'll ask 10 differnt vets and you'll get maybe 5 different answers. Bottom line is you need to comply by you own vets wishes. been with more vets than ever thought possible the last couple of weeks and vet school etc. Food will not interfere with baytril. not a vet there would agree. like i said it may delay but not hinder absorption capability. my girls on this for encephalitis and believe you me they know the meds at the vet school. again will not hinder absorption capability. no argument on you knowing stuff but this one's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starr511 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Yes, vet ran a culture. When we first started with the problem there was blood and crystals in the urine. Now, just blood. Vet is changing the meds to amoxy. Haven't tried that yet. So, can I give her yogurt with her meal or wait an hour. I am hoping this is the drug that helps. Amoxy doesn't do anything for my cats or my kids when they were young. Thanks for all the comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhounds Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Ugh iPhone- hard to quote sometimes. Ok- just thought I would double check myself and after a quick google search I will stand behind my facts. "Compounds that contain metal cations (e.g., aluminum, calcium, iron, magnesium may reduce the absorption of some Quinolone class drugs." to the OP and Devotion hope your hounds recover quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 From Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook's (6th ed) entry on enrofloxacin (Baytril): "Pharmacokinetics Enrofloxacin is well absorbed after oral administration in most species. In dogs, enrofloxacin's bioavailability (approximately 80%) is about twice that of ciprofloxacin after oral dosing. 50% of Cmax is reportedly attained within 15 minutes of dosing and peak levels (Cmax) occur within one hour of dosing. The presence of food in the stomach may delay the rate, but not the extent of absorption." My apologies to the OP for the hi-jack. I hope you'll be able to find an antibiotic that does the trick and doesn't upset her stomach. Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's perfectly okay to add food with baytril. Amoxy and Doxy are used for general UTI. Baytril is a desirable antibiotic to be added with these two. To the OP please have more specific tests completed. I am a vet and although I can answer general questions you can't expect a vet to give you diagnosis/treatment over internet. This isn't a negative to the OP but just a reminder it's important to have a vet to see the canine. best of luck. IMO it's probably an infection that needs an antibiotic for an extended length of time not the rountine 7-14 protocal. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJNg Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Mike, I belive the OP is working closely with their vet, and it also sounds like they've been pretty thorough and have already done both abdominal rads and urine culture. Quote Jennifer & Willow (Wilma Waggle), Wiki (Wiki Hard Ten), Carter (Let's Get It On), Ollie (whippet), Gracie (whippet x), & Terra (whippet) + Just Saying + Just Alice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest starr511 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Picked up the amoxi today and Star is back on ground chuck and rice. She couldn't wait to eat/was so excited while I was cooking for her. Gave her the pill with peanutbutter. So, everyone cross your fingers that this will stop the *runs* and the UTI. At least she is eatting again! Thanks for the comments and I'll keep you posted with her progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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