greytpups Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Yesterday DH got home first and when he came in the house, Ben was just standing there panting heavily and shaking. When I got home I wondered if something had scared him...that's how he reacts to hot air balloons. However, it was dark, cold and rainy so I wasn't sure what it could be. But he wasn't his happy tail-wagging self. Nor would he eat ice cream or tripe. I fell asleep and DH came up and woke me up and said he thought we should take Ben to the e-vet. He was panting heavily, wouldn't lie down and seemed to try to hack something up. He was also shaking. Although, he wasn't retching exactly, bloat was clearly on my mind. However, the x-rays were clear, blood tests were normal, but he had a temp of 40C (104F) and was still panting and standing up. This is a dog who is rarely on his feet if there is a pillow nearby. We were there for about 3 hours and he finally laid down and fell asleep. He was dehydrated so he was given fluids (IV) and then we went home. This morning he did not want to go for a walk and this guy loves to go on a walk no matter what the weather. He wouldn't eat his breakfast though, and he did not eaten his dinner last night either. He also had a big pee on the carpet...he never pees in the house. He's lethargic...I keep checking to make sure he's breathing. Something's wrong and I'm really worried about him. Any ideas?? thanks Jan Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGreys Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Sounds like something is hurting him. What about your regular vet? Hoping you get some answers so he'll be comfortable Quote Missing my little Misty who took a huge piece of my heart with her on 5/2/09, and Ekko, on 6/28/12 For the sick, the lost, and the homeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4greyhounds Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 It does sound like his is hurting, we will be praying for him. Please keep us posted. Quote Darlene Mom to: Aladdin, Sophie ,Pongo, Jasmine, Relic Forever in our Hearts Champ at the Rainbow Bridge. Let a greyhound race into your heart Adopt Bay Area Greyhound Adoptions INC. Naples/ Fort Myers Chapter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazehund Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Dang Jan, that just isn't like Ben is it? I don't know him well enough to even hazard a guess as to what might be wrong. It does sound like he is having pain of some kind, but from what I have no clue. Please keep us posted on sweet Ben. You are in our prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EmilyAnne Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Oh no!!! ing for that desperately needed answer to come SOON! Can you get a hold of Ben's regular vet after hours? Is there an answering service at his vet who perhaps could reach Ben's vet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greyhound1 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carronstar Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Sending lots of good thoughts and prayers Ben's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoulsMom Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I have no idea, but not eating and panting like that sounds scary. Isn't a 104 temp on the high side? Sending tons of good thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SusanP Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Is there more than one e-vet to consult in your city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GiJenn51 Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 That is definitely not like Ben. Did they happen to get his belly in the xray? Maybe a blockage? A temp of 104 indicates an infection or some distress. How do his gums look? Are they good and pink, or red or whitish with slow refill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytluck Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Yesterday DH got home first and when he came in the house, Ben was just standing there panting heavily and shaking. When I got home I wondered if something had scared him...that's how he reacts to hot air balloons. However, it was dark, cold and rainy so I wasn't sure what it could be. But he wasn't his happy tail-wagging self. Nor would he eat ice cream or tripe. I fell asleep and DH came up and woke me up and said he thought we should take Ben to the e-vet. He was panting heavily, wouldn't lie down and seemed to try to hack something up. He was also shaking. Although, he wasn't retching exactly, bloat was clearly on my mind. However, the x-rays were clear, blood tests were normal, but he had a temp of 40C (104F) and was still panting and standing up. This is a dog who is rarely on his feet if there is a pillow nearby. We were there for about 3 hours and he finally laid down and fell asleep. He was dehydrated so he was given fluids (IV) and then we went home. This morning he did not want to go for a walk and this guy loves to go on a walk no matter what the weather. He wouldn't eat his breakfast though, and he did not eaten his dinner last night either. He also had a big pee on the carpet...he never pees in the house. He's lethargic...I keep checking to make sure he's breathing. Something's wrong and I'm really worried about him. Any ideas?? thanks Jan Not trying to scare you, but these symptoms sound a lot like what Hobbes initially had. He ended up being a very sick dog and still isn't better. They suspect it's lepto but it's still inconclusive. His first blood test came back normal except an elevated bilirubin value and a high red blood cell count. By the next morning his kidney and liver enzymes were very elevated. Is Ben refusing all food even treats? Is he vomiting? How is his gait, is it slow and short? Having just been through all of this I would insist on a lepto test of his urine. You know your dog best, if you think there is a problem there probably is. I'm keeping Ben in my prayers. Hope you find the answers soon and it's nothing. Quote Hobbes-Ricard Hatch09/23/99-12/21/09 Always loved, never forgotten. Wally TNJ Boy Howdy, GLS Genuinerisk Corinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K9_Lady Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Jan, no suggestions just positive and healing thoughts coming Bens way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greysandmollie Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 How is sweet Ben doing tonight Jan?? I hope he is better!! Quote Donna and...Lucy and Chubb Rascal H 10/1/91-5/22/04 My best friend and Bounty Boon 1/23/99-6/25/07 My boy with the biggest heart Cody 7/28/99-8/1/13 My boy that always made me laugh and Dylan 5/12/04-12/29/2017 The sweetest boy ever Miss Mollie 1/1/99-1/30/15 and Pixie -10/10/2017 Lincoln -2/14/2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan41 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Prayers going out to Ben. Is he any better this evening? Quote Linda, Mom to Fuzz, Barkley, and the felines Miss Kitty, Simon and Joseph.Waiting at The Bridge: Alex, Josh, Harley, Nikki, Beemer, Anna, Frank, Rachel, my heart & soul, Suze and the best boy ever, Dalton.<p> ....for all those hounds that are sick, hurt, lost or waiting for their forever homes. SENIORS ROCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytpups Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yesterday, he didn't even get up when DH got home from work...Ben usually is jumping around and making happy sounds when daddy comes home. And we almost had to drag him outside last night so we could all go to bed. Ben seems to be OK today. He ate most of his breakfast with a little bit of coaxing and baby food mixed in. He went for a walk this morning and has been acting pretty normal...not sure what was wrong but I don't begrudge paying the e-vet bill (just over $500). I would feel worse if something was wrong and I didn't do anything about it. Hopefully, he'll continue to be OK. I've been to the vet's office too often these last couple of weeks. Bailey had her toe removed (bit bloody) and then Ben was sick. Yesterday both dogs threw up and Ben peed on the floor. DH shampooed the carpets this morning Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 So happy Ben is feeling better today. Sending more prayers for good measure. Quote Patti-Mommy of Lady Sophia 7-28-92 - 8-3-04... LaceyLaine 8-2-94-12-5-07... Flash Gordon 7-14-99 - 8-29-09... BrookLynne...Pavé Maria... and 18 Bridge Kids. WATCHING OVER US~SOPHIA~QUEENIE~LACEY LAINE~ CODY ANGELO~FLASH GORDON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yikes Jan - it's so scary when something is wrong and we can't do anything to help them, isn't it! Hopefully it was just something "off" and he'll recover. But a trip to the vet tomorrow might not be remiss. He could have a pinched nerve or something like that, hurting. Today's it's better (just like a sore neck on us is sometimes better the next day) but a check on it might help. Gentle little kissies to the boy... Quote My boys, together again... A hui hou kakou, my loves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChasesMum Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Do you have a vet that does chiropractic? Maybe something was out (or pinched as was suggested above)? I too immediatley thought "maybe a blockage?" because Chase was acting like that when she was blocked, keep a eye on it though and if he has a relapse I would take him back into the vet and get abdominal films done again...maybe it moved and unblocked kinda thing? UUGH these pets we love... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheila Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I don't know if this is worthwhile or not. I'm going to copy/paste an excerpt from an experience I had with my Kiowa that I have written about in the past. I'm wondering if your dog may have had a less severe episode of an allergic reaction to a bite of some kind. The symptoms you describe sound eerily familiar with the panting/shaking and the hacking like something was choking him. ~ One night after I had him for about 9 mo I had a very terrifying experience. The evening had been normal, Kiowa had had a long walk, had eaten his dinner and had tossed a stuffy around for a bit. I was in another room when I heard him yelp. When I checked on him he seemed fine, I couldn't find anything wrong, but about 20 min later he started pacing and panting and shaking. I called the vet who told me K probably had gas and to give him an antacid. I went to the store to buy some and when I came back K was laying on the floor and wouldn't get up, wouldn't even move. I called the vet back and insisted he needed to be seen NOW. The vet was in the city about 35 miles away but said he would return to his clinic as soon as he could. Now keep in mind K weighed over 80lb and I only weigh about 100 myself. I couldn't pick him up so I pulled my car around to the front porch and drug K by his legs and pulled him into the car. When I arrived at the clinic we had to wait about another 20 min for the vet to arrive. By the time the vet got there K had stopped breathing. He was alive but couldn't breathe. The vet tried injections of benedryl and epinephrine but they had no effect. Kiowa started to thrash in my arms at that point because he was suffocating. The poor guy even bit me during his panic and I didn't even notice until one of the staff noticed the blood pouring out of my hand later. The vet grabbed a scalpel and performed a tracheotomy and put a tube into K's neck and blew into it. K was then able to breath on his own a minute or so later. During his time on the table we discovered a bruised and bloody mark on his inner thigh which lead us to suspect some kind of bite, most likely from a spider. K spent the night at the vet and came home the next day. ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greytpups Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 I don't know if this is worthwhile or not. I'm going to copy/paste an excerpt from an experience I had with my Kiowa that I have written about in the past. I'm wondering if your dog may have had a less severe episode of an allergic reaction to a bite of some kind. The symptoms you describe sound eerily familiar with the panting/shaking and the hacking like something was choking him. ~ One night after I had him for about 9 mo I had a very terrifying experience. The evening had been normal, Kiowa had had a long walk, had eaten his dinner and had tossed a stuffy around for a bit. I was in another room when I heard him yelp. When I checked on him he seemed fine, I couldn't find anything wrong, but about 20 min later he started pacing and panting and shaking. I called the vet who told me K probably had gas and to give him an antacid. I went to the store to buy some and when I came back K was laying on the floor and wouldn't get up, wouldn't even move. I called the vet back and insisted he needed to be seen NOW. The vet was in the city about 35 miles away but said he would return to his clinic as soon as he could. Now keep in mind K weighed over 80lb and I only weigh about 100 myself. I couldn't pick him up so I pulled my car around to the front porch and drug K by his legs and pulled him into the car. When I arrived at the clinic we had to wait about another 20 min for the vet to arrive. By the time the vet got there K had stopped breathing. He was alive but couldn't breathe. The vet tried injections of benedryl and epinephrine but they had no effect. Kiowa started to thrash in my arms at that point because he was suffocating. The poor guy even bit me during his panic and I didn't even notice until one of the staff noticed the blood pouring out of my hand later. The vet grabbed a scalpel and performed a tracheotomy and put a tube into K's neck and blew into it. K was then able to breath on his own a minute or so later. During his time on the table we discovered a bruised and bloody mark on his inner thigh which lead us to suspect some kind of bite, most likely from a spider. K spent the night at the vet and came home the next day. ~ Thanks for taking the time to post this...this is a lot like what happened...of course without the breathing problem...but he is still doing a fair bit of hacking. However, I've checked him over and there aren't any bite marks. Right now he's almost back to normal so I hope whatever it is has passed. I'll keep an eye on the hacking and if it still continues tomorrow, we'll go to our vet. He has improved 99% though from the last couple of days. I'm so not ready to lose him...he's only 6 and he's the sweetest dog, well-behaved pup ever Quote Jan with precious pups Emmy (Stormin J Flag) and Simon (Nitro Si) and Abbey Field. Missing my angels: Bailey Buffetbobleclair 11/11/98-17/12/09; Ben Task Rapid Wave 5/5/02-2/11/15; Brooke Glo's Destroyer 7/09/06-21/06/16 and Katie Crazykatiebug 12/11/06 -21/08/21. My blog about grief The reality is that you will grieve forever. You will not get over the loss of a loved one; you will learn to live with it. You will rebuild yourself around the loss you have suffered. You will be whole again but you will never be the same. Nor should you be the same, nor would you want to. ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sheila Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I don't know if this is worthwhile or not. I'm going to copy/paste an excerpt from an experience I had with my Kiowa that I have written about in the past. I'm wondering if your dog may have had a less severe episode of an allergic reaction to a bite of some kind. The symptoms you describe sound eerily familiar with the panting/shaking and the hacking like something was choking him. ~ One night after I had him for about 9 mo I had a very terrifying experience. The evening had been normal, Kiowa had had a long walk, had eaten his dinner and had tossed a stuffy around for a bit. I was in another room when I heard him yelp. When I checked on him he seemed fine, I couldn't find anything wrong, but about 20 min later he started pacing and panting and shaking. I called the vet who told me K probably had gas and to give him an antacid. I went to the store to buy some and when I came back K was laying on the floor and wouldn't get up, wouldn't even move. I called the vet back and insisted he needed to be seen NOW. The vet was in the city about 35 miles away but said he would return to his clinic as soon as he could. Now keep in mind K weighed over 80lb and I only weigh about 100 myself. I couldn't pick him up so I pulled my car around to the front porch and drug K by his legs and pulled him into the car. When I arrived at the clinic we had to wait about another 20 min for the vet to arrive. By the time the vet got there K had stopped breathing. He was alive but couldn't breathe. The vet tried injections of benedryl and epinephrine but they had no effect. Kiowa started to thrash in my arms at that point because he was suffocating. The poor guy even bit me during his panic and I didn't even notice until one of the staff noticed the blood pouring out of my hand later. The vet grabbed a scalpel and performed a tracheotomy and put a tube into K's neck and blew into it. K was then able to breath on his own a minute or so later. During his time on the table we discovered a bruised and bloody mark on his inner thigh which lead us to suspect some kind of bite, most likely from a spider. K spent the night at the vet and came home the next day. ~ Thanks for taking the time to post this...this is a lot like what happened...of course without the breathing problem...but he is still doing a fair bit of hacking. However, I've checked him over and there aren't any bite marks. Right now he's almost back to normal so I hope whatever it is has passed. I'll keep an eye on the hacking and if it still continues tomorrow, we'll go to our vet. He has improved 99% though from the last couple of days. I'm so not ready to lose him...he's only 6 and he's the sweetest dog, well-behaved pup ever I know just how you feel. K was my heart hound. He passed in June of this yr and I miss him so much. However I still laugh when I remember at the end of that awful evening when K was stable the vet gave me a funny look. Only then did I look down and realize I was wearing a threadbare T-shirt with the words 'Because I am the mom and I said so' .....and NO bra...OMG! I don't know who blushed more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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