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Oh I think the OP has already been driven away. Never mind the hijack.
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I'm sorry Bev. How lucky was Tetley to be a Doyle dog.
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"I feel like he just graduated from med school or something!"
I love your mother! Good job both of you!
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Susan, I am so so sorry, both for your loss and because even after trying to get answers to make the process as painless as possible, things didn't go as expected.
I will be calling hte vet that I hope will come to my home when the time comes and will be asking her these questions. I'll let you know what seh says.
I do have a really morbid question for those of you who have had the vet come to your home. When it's over, obviously teh vet needs to remove the body. What did you do while that happened? Did you stay in teh room, did you go with them outisde, did you leave the room until they were gone?
I've only done this with one animal, my childhood cat who I took to the vet and I made the mistake of trying to pick him up to hold him after it was over. Naturally his body was limp and that is an image/feeling I will never forget so I'm afraid of seeing that again but it doesn't feel right to just leave the room.
I suppose maybe that is somethign I will just know when teh time comes, but I would like to hear what other people have done. Wow, I can't think of a worse thing to talk about. 
I took the other two dogs and left the room. I knew it would be awkward for them to move Jack and I did not want to see and I felt they would be more comfortable without me hovering. They carried him out on a stretcher and it was not anymore upsetting than it already was.
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Susan I'm so sorry Your long journey with your dear Wizard ended not in a way that gave you comfort.
I had a good experience. Jack left me at home in his own bed where he felt most safe. The vet did insert a catheter which was easy. A sedative was given and I cuddled him and talked to him as he fell asleep. Then when I was ready the anesthetic was given and he left. The other two dogs were asleep beside us. I don't know though what sedative was used but would be happy to ask.
Wizard is healthy now and you did everything for him that was possible with all the love in the world.
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I know you will get many differing responses but introducing Jill into the house with Jack was a non issue. I didn't crate or muzzle. I also never left any food or kongs with them when I wasn't there. Still don't. And again when Josh came home to Jack and Jill it was simple. No crates or muzzles. Well wait, I did use a crate for a week for Josh cause his foster mom said he loved it. He disagreed. Again I never leave anything they would consider high value alone with them. So I think it depends on the dogs. Mine are pretty easy.
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What a very special boy. I'm sorry.
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I hurt for both of you. Your girl was so very beautiful.
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I won't even say anything as silly as don't worry Robin cause that's impossible. But we will channel all kinds of positive thoughts your way!
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Josh is okay on walks with wind, but he is very wind phobic in the house if it is very noisy. But I have to say only in the summer, not winter wind.
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It is okay to consider cost Jen - none of this is curative and that includes amputation. It is totally realistic to think of what your family can reasonably handle. Of course our hearts want to do everything possible in the world but that is not always realistic or rational.
Without amputation, it is intractable pain that will dictate when she will have had enough. With amputation, generally it is lung cancer.
I did palliative care only for Jack. We got 6 months of wonderful time after diagnosis. But I have to say that is not common and especially not with shoulders. His was a distal femur.
If you choose palliative care it is just important to be generous with analgesics and to enjoy every single good day. Every day is a gift.
There is no right or wrong decision. Just what is right for your family and your girl.
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She will be missed that very special lady.
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Maggie landed in heaven before she had to leave. There is no doubt she died with love in her heart and all around her. Nothing matters more than that. have a blast with your disc sweetie.
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I'm so damn sorry. You get to fall apart today. That's okay. Then it's all about your most darling girl. It's like a blow to heart each and every time I read that ugly word. I chose no amp for Jack because he was far to shy to have to deal with all that would have meant for him. I'm not sorry. Whatever you choose will be right. And we all will be here.
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Obviously you are going to get advice all over the board so to speak. But the only factor in the equation that will make the difference is you. If you have had dogs before especially large dogs, if you are a multiple vs a single preference kind of person; easy going or uptight etc. And if you are ready for the financial implications that two at once mean. You always double you food costs and some vet costs but the initial outlay can be a bit pricey. One added later can be less of a financial hit. Otherwise really I think the case can be made either way.
I love having more than one. I found having the first one as a single for awhile very helpful but always had the intention of getting another. Hey there is that too!
If you space it out, you get to have the excitement of getting a new dog twice rather than just once!
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Nope none.
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Same thing happened with my bare boy Josh. It took about 8 months I guess. Unfortunately it doesn't help what I originally gave it too him for but hey hairyness is good!
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I am so very very sorry. My heart is so broken for you.
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I missed this! Welcome home beautiful grey faced girl!
Yeah this feels better. The Poopon house wasn't quite right.
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It's like that in my house too. Cody and the pit bulls will do anything for a treat, they would die to please you. The Greys, not so much.
I got lucky and got a foodie.
:lol OMG, YOU HAVE A PIECE OF BANANA!!! *SIT* *DOWN* *SIT* *SHAKE* YOU LIKE THESE?? I HAVE MORE! *BOW* *SIT* *SHAKE* *SHAKE WITH OTHER PAW* *DOWN* YOU WANT ME TO GO GET MY STUFFIE FOR YOU???
Yeah that's Jilly
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I share your pain. I didn't realize until I got Josh how intense thunderphobia could be. Jack's was so mild compared to this. Josh would no more take a treat in that state than fly to the moon. In fact I haven't found a dose of valium that has helped yet but I am still working up. I think in your situation a daily anti anxiety med is at least a reasonable option to try and I certainly don't say that lightly. In fact it may well be a kind thing to do. Good luck with Jade.
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I have somewhat of the same problem. My adoption kennel said to use a squirt bottle of water, rolled up newspaper and muzzell (I am a terrible speller).
I would really really discourage any of the above! Seriously! You start hitting or squirting a dog for reacting to another dog and you will have major major problems. I would recommend "Feisty Fido" by Patricia B McConnell. Or search any of Giselles posts on Look at That training.
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I would suggest that the marrow bone was just, for him, too much a high value item that he wasn't ready to handle yet. He needs to be more confident that an item of that extreme wonderfulness is okay to give up to you because he will always get it back.
You need to continue to consider whether he is ready yet for such a treat. And to continue to work on the trade up exercise. That is not unusual behavior at all even though it almost always takes us by surprise when our dogs do it. My gentle Jack was a dog that I could literally reach down his throat for anything. Then I gave him his first marrow bone. It was a easily two years after I got him. I didn't know about trading up or high value treats. It was one of my first posts here. My sweet boy gentle boy.......
It really isn't an issue of being the boss or alpha. He just needs to develop trust with those kind of items. He will.
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I don't understand the "no punishing a growl" idea. I think of it like back-sass from a child and no parent would put up with that.
A child can and should be expected to speak politely. A dog cannot speak to you and is pretty limited in ways to communicate displeasure. A growl is a legitimate and safer expression of unhappiness or pain than a bite.
Poppy Doyle
in Remembrance
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I am so sad for you and Marc, Bev. At least Tetley and Poppy have each other to cuddle with. But enough now okay??? Go chase baby Grace. Puppies always help heal.