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Easi Big Easi was all over the place ranging from A to D. Going back and looking again I think C/D might have been a better category to place him in.
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Getting ready to pick up Easi Big Easi this Friday; our first greyhound.
Easi Big Easi at trackinfo,
http://www.trackinfo.com/dog.jsp?runnername=Easi%20Big%
I was able to find his info but would appreciate your thoughts. I have zero knowledge on deciphering the information or putting it into context.
Thank you,
Larry
Easi Big Easi ran 127 races between Tri-State in WV and Orange Park, which is in Jacksonville FL. Only 9 of those races were at TS. He was all about speed and he had to get to the turn 1st to have any chance to win because he couldn't pass dogs. Once on top he usually cruised to the top of the stretch where he would start to tire. He would struggle to the finish line, sometimes winning other times being passed.
He was a nice B/C dog that made it A, but really didn't compete well. He was in the money almost 50% of the time which is pretty good.
Dick
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Mac's Bayou Baby ran 35 races all at Tri-State. She ran both 3/8th and 5/16th races and ran both pretty well. She didn't have much early speed, but as long as she was 4th to the turn she had a chance to win because she was a pretty good closer and being 4th or 5th to the turn she was almost always in the money.
While there is no way to tell why she retired she fell in her last race and whatever happened was the cause of her retirement. Shoulder, leg or something else I have no idea.
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Can you tell me about Duron Captain? Thanks!
Duron Captain ran over 170 races between Bluffs Run, Dubuque, Ebro, Sarasota and Birmingham. The reason she moved around so much is those three middle tracks are seasonal. She was a dog that had to be on top at the 1st turn to have a chance to win. While she could get caught in the stretch she usually was pretty tough to go by once on top. She was also a dog that could hold her position pretty well, so if she was 3rd to the turn she would many times end up 3rd or 4th. Because of this she was in the money a very nice 58% of the time.
If you want to see her run this is her on the trackinfo site.
http://www.trackinfo.com/dog-search.jsp?keyword=Duron+Captain&x=9&y=5&by=dogname
If you click the all it will put all her races on one page.
If you're not sure how to read what you are looking at the 1st bold number is the box she is in. If you look across the bold number, not counting the time of the race, in the top race it was 33.35, the 7 16 you see on the top race means she finished 7th and was 16 lengths behind the leader. So the second race down shows 2 hd and that means she was 2nd and lost by a head.
Any race with a 1 and then a number means she won and second number is by how much.
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Does he do it if you put the leash in your other hand and let him walk on the other side of you. I'll assume he is walking on the left so what happens if he is walked on the right?
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Shorten the leash even more so he isn't walking ahead of you. Now if he tries to cut in front of you your knee will hit him. It won't take long for him to figure out that walking in a straight line is better than getting hit with your knee.
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Dogs that break their toe while racing will many times have the toe taken off depending on the severity of the break, especially if it isn't a weight-bearing toe. They are usually back to racing in 6 to 8 weeks good as new.
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Try giving her some ginger snap cookies, or anything with ginger in it, about 30 minutes before you go in the car. Ginger settles a person or animals stomach, but depending on how bad it is will determine how well it works.
Many people drink flat warm ginger ale for their stomach and you could try that also.
Dick
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Ahh! I never thought to look for the weight beyond the main page...I see it now listed with her races. Thank you!
I just added her weight to her main page.
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Any chance you can find out about Sweep Thru? Her weight's blank on Greyhound Data. We adopted her five months off the track at 63 lbs and she's about 61 now. She has a good tuck but has never been especially ribby (which I've read about other Kiowa Sweet Trey offspring).
She raced between 57 and 59 pounds.
FWI: the weight is on GD, however it is in kilograms
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Hey dmdsmoxie, I have had a similar problem of not being able to find my girl's racing weight. She raced as Bart's Looper. Could you help me find it?
I, too, am trying to figure out what her ideal weight should be.
She raced at 63 pounds. She was retired at 2 years of age and some trainers will add a little weight to their racers as they get older. Just like people they haven't fully filled out. So if she raced at 3 years old her weight might have been upped to 65 pounds.
Dick
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Angela's Kiss raced at 62 to 63 pounds.
Direct Point was around 64 to 66 pounds, sometime a little higher.
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What were their racing names?
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My new 12 year old boy Mikey ( Doray's Patuti ) didn't race, nor did most of his littermates. When does a trainer decide a dog has no interest or focus in racing?
If they never raced it would be when they are being finished that the farmer would tell the owner. Many dogs have the interest, but aren't fast enough and others, like you say, have no real interest.
I'm sure there are exceptions, but getting them on the training track is where you can tell for sure. I had a pup I adopted out at 16 months. The farmer told me he wasn't going to make any track and at that point you have to believe him. It saved me 330 dollars plus a haul because he was honest. If I told him to keep working him for the other two months he would have.
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Thanks, it's interesting reading your perspective. Do you think Capri was near champion material? Or does it take a lot more than that to be a champ? Also if she was as good as she sounds I'm curious they didn't breed her.
Since Daytona is a lower end track the answer would be no. While you can't say people never breed from a Daytona type track it would be rare. Plus Sharon Williams is one of the bigger names in the business and would have females at other tracks that would be better candidates to breed.
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I already know my dogs' track records, but curious about your perspective. Capri (Get Ready Capi) had a nice bell curve record: worked her way up the grades all the way to AA and then started slipping down to B and C when they retired her. I'm curious how typical it is to see bell curve records?
And Ajax (JJ Mix It Up)... he's interesting in the opposite direction. Raced for two years at 8 different tracks, some of which were seasonal. He seems to have spent more time in a hauler. I read somewhere that dogs like him are kept up as something for the other dogs to compete against (sort of like training tools). Of course I know his real career is to be a Teddy Bear and he's a champion at that!
How often do you see this kind of record?Get Ready Capi ran 212 races all at Daytona. She needed to be 1st or 2nd to the turn to have a chance to win and when she was in that position she almost always finished either 1st or 2nd. She was a hard to pass and didn't give an inch.
If you go to Trackinfo you will see the rest of her career. Except for page 8 and a few races on the bottom of page 7 those races are the continuation of her career.
For any dog that runs till they are 4 or 5 that bell curve would be very typical. Early on they are full of piss and vinegar, but have no experience and you see them do things that they will never do at 24 months or older. I would say from 24 to 36 months is the peak of their career.
Then as they get over 36 months they have the experience, but father time starts to catch up to them. When you are dealing with a sport that is timed in hundredths of a second a half second is about 7 lengths.
Some dogs can run top grade up to 48 months, but they are more the exception. They are still good enough to win top grade, but being consistent in top grade gets harder.
JJ Mix It Up is a hard dog to figure out. He had some early speed, but once at the turn 3rd or 4th he might continue on and be 2nd or win and other times he would drop back. While trackinfo shows six tracks there easily could be a couple that show because not all tracks report to trackinfo. I would guess he would have stayed at Dairyland except his last race there was their last night for live racing so he moved to Melbourne.
The first track he was on was Bluffs run and he was a little over his head at one of our best tracks. At Mardi Gras, also a pretty good track, he seemed to like, but being seasonal he was moved again.
He was all over the place as far at what grade he ran in. He would be in A,B,C and sometimes drop to D before moving back up.
If they gave out frequent hauler miles he would a lot of them.
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Badge of Silver Born 11/2001 black male
Badge of Silver ran 24 races all at Melbourne one of our lower end tracks. He had very little speed out of the box and more often than not he didn't do a good job of rushing the turn. However, in the races he did rush the turn pretty good he could finish and most times when he was 4th or better to the turn he was in the money or even better win which he did three times.
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new foster from Derby Lane. Hi Noon N Cognito
I see this dog as a great story and kudos to the kennel for not giving up. Hi Noon N Cognito ran 201 race and was in the money in 101 of them for an almost perfect 50%. While he won his maiden race in his second try coming from 4th to get the win he really struggled in D. He went 13 races in D and didn't break, didn't rush the turn and close very little never finishing better than 5th and most of the time 7th and 8th. Then all of a sudden he started breaking better and finishing 3rd or 4th. He was starting to figure out his break.
It took him another 19 races before he won a D race, but he was breaking better and finishing in the money a lot.
After a couple of C races he won C and was in B. But, he figured out his break and for the most part he was breaking well and was in the money a lot. He had a bunch of A races and won a couple of them at the height of his career, but was mostly a good solid B/C dog.
The kennel could have given up on him early on, but they didn't. They must have seen something in morning schooling that made them think he was better than what he was showing.
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any info on ZW Skidder Man ( Derby Lane)
ZW Skidder Man ran 117 races all at Derby Lane one of our better tracks. Like all dogs he started in sprints and had very little early speed and also didn't have a lot of late speed. That isn't a combination that leads to a long career so they tried him in routes, 660 yd races.
Like many sprinters, even bad ones, he had early speed in routes. He would get out on top and run as far as he could, as fast as he could. The problem was as far as he could was about 600 yds and he would tire and be caught.
That is how he ran for the whole time he was in routes, about 70 races. However, because he was caught late he was in the money a number of times and would occasionally win a D race. As you can imagine in C he had a much harder time getting out on top and it didn't take long for him to drop back to D.
Twice in his career he got out to big leads in C and held on to win by a nose and was in B. In B it was three bad races and back to C.
He had a nice long career as a C/D dog that gave it all he has most every time he ran.
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Ginger - WV's Friendly
Fred - WV's Fairdale
WV's Friendly shows two races at Tri State, she finished 8th and 7th. There are a few schooling races, but for the most part she didn't break, didn't rush and didn't close. That is a recipe for a couch and I'm sure she has a very good one.
Wv's Fairdale was also not a great breaker, but at times he would break 3rd, 4th or 5th and when he did that he had a chance to be in the money. When he broke poorly he didn't contend. He had one win in D really struggled once getting out of maiden races. He never won a maiden race, but once you are two years old you get moved to D if still a maiden.
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Hoops Jade , Thanks
Hoops Jade ran 79 races between Orange Park and Sanford Orlando with the majority at OP. OP is a good mid-level track and SO is a lower end track. At OP she had no early speed and no rush to the turn. Many of her races she would break 6th, 7th or 8th and at the turn she didn't improve much if at all. She could close a little and because of that she would finish 3rd or 4th at times, but didn't do much better than that.
After more than 30 races they moved to the longer 660 yard races. She did better by being able to break better, a couple of time broke on top, and put herself in a better position to win or be 2nd. She won a couple of C races, so she ran in B, but was overmatched in B and quickly dropped back to C.
After moving to SO she was back in the shorter 550 yd races, but because of the lesser competition she could break a little better and won a few races before being retired.
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I was never able to find anything on Cody and it may be waaaay too late now... I suspect she was pretty good 'cause she didn't retire till she was 4 years old.
Rovin Gemini
Born 1992 (couldn't read her tattoos well either...)
sire: Kelso
dam: Rovin Linda
That is so far back that there is nothing on her.
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Hotkisses (now Autumn) born Feb. '06, female brindle.
I know she became a broodie and (I think) had 24 offspring.
Thank you in advance; I love learning info on my amazingly delightful houndie.
Autumn ran 69 races all at Mardi Gras except for one at Gulf. She also ran more than the 69 because her first race at MG was a D race. So she ran at a track that didn't report to Trackinfo.
She had great early speed, many times out of the box first and would go box to wire. Even if she was second out of the box and second to the turn she would end up second or third. She didn't pass dogs, but many times there were no dogs to pass.
Once she made A she stayed there most of her career. Only at the end at MG did she drop in grade.
She was a good racer at a good track
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I will try and tell you how your dog raced by looking at the charts so ask away.
How often do you see this kind of record?
How Your Dog Ran At The Track
in Everything else Greyhound
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Devil Himself ran over 120 races between Palm Beach, Melbourne and Sanford Orlando. Over 100 of those races wee at PB. He was all about speed. Get out on top and be first to the turn. Once he did that he wasn't easy to catch and won most of those races, especially in the first half of his career. The first half of his career he was an A/B dog and I would say more A than B. Then it looks like he got hurt and was off for about three months. He wasn't quite the same dog after coming back. He still had the early speed, but was getting caught more. However, even at that point he was still a good racer mostly in grades B and C.
Tangerine Roll shows 17 races all at Birmingham and a few schooling races at Flagler. The first races that show she was already over two years old so she may have run at a track that wasn't reporting to GD or Trackinfo.
She didn't have much early speed and most races didn't close much. There are a couple of races where she did close and was 2nd or 3rd, but those races were few and far between.