Guest greytbookert Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 ok, I know sometimes boy dogs can get "excited" and their "crayon or lipstick" will make an appearance. However, last night Eric was sleeping and his came out and it was fully out and stayed out for almost an hour. DH said he was very needy today, which is kind of normal for Eric (he'll be 11 in November). Eric is our resident leaner hound and likes to attach himself to people, so it didn't seem that out of the ordinary. When I got home from work, I noticed that his "lipstick" was out and it has been for about an hour...yes, it is still out. Any ideas from the great knowledge base of GT? DH will ask the vet when he gets to work tomorrow, but I'm curious if anyone else has ever heard of such a thing. oh and DH went to wipe the area and Eric arched his back. I'm thinking that it is sensitive oh and he was neutered years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 My friend's toy poodle has this problem. Basically she was told by the vet that he needs surgery to correct the problem. The skin is too tight to let it release and go back to normal... She has not had to do the surgery as when it happens she lubricates it and it's able to retract. It's not a normal condition by any means but I think it can be managed without surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 My friend's toy poodle has this problem. Basically she was told by the vet that he needs surgery to correct the problem. The skin is too tight to let it release and go back to normal... She has not had to do the surgery as when it happens she lubricates it and it's able to retract. It's not a normal condition by any means but I think it can be managed without surgery. eeek, was it a sudden onset with your friend's poodle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jettcricket Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 hmmm....I know my boy, Jett, had some boy part problems when he had his surgery for mast cell cancer. The growth was very close to his penis and because the vet had to get clean margins it affected his prepuce. It wouldn't retract all the way. The tip basically stuck out. We had to keep the poor boy lubbed with KY jelly. They did do surgery and managed to stretch the skin to get it to cover properly. It is a full erection? The one thing that my vet did tell me to watch that his penis doesn't start turning dark. It could be cutting off the circulation if it is a full erection and doesn't go down. I would definitely, if it continues, take him to the vet, but in the mean time keep it lubricated and let us know how the boy is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 My friend's toy poodle has this problem. Basically she was told by the vet that he needs surgery to correct the problem. The skin is too tight to let it release and go back to normal... She has not had to do the surgery as when it happens she lubricates it and it's able to retract. It's not a normal condition by any means but I think it can be managed without surgery. eeek, was it a sudden onset with your friend's poodle? I don't know. I do know that it's been going on for a couple of years and he's ok. THe vet did say the danger was if it started to turn black, as that meant the circulation was cut off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SusanP Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd probably have the vet take a look at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) hmmm....I know my boy, Jett, had some boy part problems when he had his surgery for mast cell cancer. The growth was very close to his penis and because the vet had to get clean margins it affected his prepuce. It wouldn't retract all the way. The tip basically stuck out. We had to keep the poor boy lubbed with KY jelly. They did do surgery and managed to stretch the skin to get it to cover properly. It is a full erection? The one thing that my vet did tell me to watch that his penis doesn't start turning dark. It could be cutting off the circulation if it is a full erection and doesn't go down. I would definitely, if it continues, take him to the vet, but in the mean time keep it lubricated and let us know how the boy is doing. It's still out If there is no KY on hand, what else can I use? oh my lord, I never thought I'd ask that to anyone, let alone on a forum It doesn't look like full erection but pretty darn close! it better not turn black ! His olives are not making an appearance, if that helps! Edited November 2, 2009 by greytbookert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StriderDog Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Olive oil will work - works for humans too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd probably have the vet take a look at him. oh yes, I'm starting to get pretty freaked out by this. I know it isn't an emergency, so we'll take him in tomorrow for a looksee! I guess my boys didn't listen to me when I told them last week that they aren't allowed to get sick or hurt for awhile. I'm still reeling from losing Sahra and Annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Don't freak out, as it's something that can totally be managed. Use any kind of cooking oil (vegetable, canola, olive, etc...) Or vaseline or even unscented lotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I just lubed him with olive oil and he winced and jerked away. How long should I wait to see an improvement? oh and I would like to mention that DH is laughing at me... asking if I'm going to be on penis watch all night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jettcricket Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'd probably have the vet take a look at him. oh yes, I'm starting to get pretty freaked out by this. I know it isn't an emergency, so we'll take him in tomorrow for a looksee! I guess my boys didn't listen to me when I told them last week that they aren't allowed to get sick or hurt for awhile. I'm still reeling from losing Sahra and Annie Don't fret...he'll be ok. Just see what the vet says. It can be managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BoogieDown Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Oh, good lord, the things we do for our dogs... But on the serious side, I hope everything is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerlinsMum Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Gosh I hope the oil helps. That would worry me too. But from the other posts in this thread it seems to be a manageable issue, thank goodness. Keep us posted! And tell your husband that mayeb he should take first shift Quote Kerry with Lupin in beautiful coastal Maine. Missing Pippin, my best friend and sweet little heart-healer 2013-2023 Also missing the best wizard in the world, Merlin, and my sweet 80lb limpet, Sagan, every single day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Gosh I hope the oil helps. That would worry me too. But from the other posts in this thread it seems to be a manageable issue, thank goodness. Keep us posted! And tell your husband that mayeb he should take first shift It's still out but he doesn't appear to be in any pain. He is being the sloth that he is I think I found the technical term for this canine paraphimosis...of course, I googled it and now I'm slightly more of a wreck. When I say a wreck, I mean, I'm worried but not a full out anxiety attack. I'll just watch him tonight and DH is going to take him into work with him, so the doc can look at him before they open.... our version of the evet, I guess. But if there are any other experiences, please let's hear them. Don't worry, I won't go over the deep end. I'm calm, well, as calm as I can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hoolyghans Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I just lubed him with olive oil and he winced and jerked away. How long should I wait to see an improvement? oh and I would like to mention that DH is laughing at me... asking if I'm going to be on penis watch all night Is he jealous? Of the penis watch I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jettcricket Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) Gosh I hope the oil helps. That would worry me too. But from the other posts in this thread it seems to be a manageable issue, thank goodness. Keep us posted! And tell your husband that mayeb he should take first shift It's still out but he doesn't appear to be in any pain. He is being the sloth that he is I think I found the technical term for this canine paraphimosis...of course, I googled it and now I'm slightly more of a wreck. When I say a wreck, I mean, I'm worried but not a full out anxiety attack. I'll just watch him tonight and DH is going to take him into work with him, so the doc can look at him before they open.... our version of the evet, I guess. But if there are any other experiences, please let's hear them. Don't worry, I won't go over the deep end. I'm calm, well, as calm as I can be. Jett's never really retracted....we just didn't want it to dry out as I imagine it might be a bit uncomfortable. We tried different things, i.e., we tried stretching the prepuce - yes I had to do that a couple of times a day , they even stapled it leaving enough of an opening that he could urinate in hopes that it would retract and that's when my vet did the surgery and it worked. Wait and see what your vet says...I know it's hard. Hang in there....he will be ok! Edited November 3, 2009 by jettcricket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I just lubed him with olive oil and he winced and jerked away. How long should I wait to see an improvement? oh and I would like to mention that DH is laughing at me... asking if I'm going to be on penis watch all night Is he jealous? Of the penis watch I mean I'm pretty sure that he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoulsMom Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Holy Crap Deb! I have no advice, but wow how scary for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Holy Crap Deb! I have no advice, but wow how scary for you I'm on the phone now with Chad and his going to text one of his teachers about it for me I'm actually doing ok, surprisingly...I've talked myself off the cliff and since he doesn't appear to be in any pain and the tissue looks healthy, I'm not going to get too worked up until he sees the doc. ok, ewww... I previously lubed him and now Chad wants me to try and push it back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest myIrishlass Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 While working at a kennel where there was a chi chi who had a similar problem, I was told to put some sugar on it to help it retract if it were to happen. I have no idea if it is a viable treatment option -- or just something someone saw on the internet. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Evidently, I'm obsessing... our friend who is a 3 or 4th year vet student at UPenn(just got white coated), did a quick differential with one of his teachers, who he calls a genius and is the go to Doc for reproductive issues. Without seeing him and based on what I've told them, no trauma, no copulation, they are thinking of these possibilities, not in any particular order: Foreign body causing the inabilty to retract (this is what I'm hoping for) Disc disease - causing nerve damage, which is limiting the ability to retract properly. Squamous cell tumor Osteosarcoma broken OS penis I'm actually pretty calm. I can't worry too much until he sees a vet and gets checked out but it is going to be a long night of me looking at his boy parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SoulsMom Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) So . . . did you try to push it back in? I'm sorry Deb . . . I know this is freaking you out, and I would be freaking too . . . .but knowing you, Chad, and Ed . . .well Oh Eric, come on and pull that thing back in, your Mom doesn't need anymore worry buddy. Edited November 3, 2009 by SoulsMom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greytbookert Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 So . . . did you try to push it back in? Yup, I tried to push it back in... oh my, the things we do. Chad told me to, so I did I felt a little click but it came right back out. Here's the kicker, he flinched a bit, but not as if it hurt. Chad said that if he broke is OS penis, he would have been screaming in pain, no matter how stoic he is and as you know, Eric is the king of stoic. There is a reason we call him Eric the sloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandimom Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Olive oil will work - works for humans too Do you want to tell us about this olive oil working in humans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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