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Our friends have noticed the same with their boy (non-grey) with kidney disease.
He will go for a few days doing quite well then won't want to eat until later in the morning and prefers something dry - almost as though anything "smelly" turns him off.
Is there any pattern to her eating that ties in with either the days she gets the Lysodren or the prednisone?
Pam
How's our little girl this morning?
Thank you for thinking about Misty, we had a few good days but she wouldn't eat this am. Maybe later. this seems to be a trend, she'll eat for a few days, then not, she's sending hugs to the Flashman
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That's what I was afraid of
Been there done that
You can be sure we will be thinking of the Flashman
Pam
Thanks everyone. No...they can't just yank it. They have to go in to remove the roots...the tooth is separated from the roots.
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Was the tooth broken??
If not it is a darn pity it wasn't loose enough to do a quick grab with their dental pliers - probably would have stressed him less than the blood draw
(I have seen my vet do this on a couple of occasions with a small loose premolar and with a very loose molar - dog didn't realise what was happening until it was over)
Sending lots of good vibes
Pam
Well...Our little man was KNOT brave. I felt so sorry for him. Flashy is having surgery tomorrow morning. He has to be there at 9:00am. He had his CBC and Chem Profile ran tonight for his anesthesia tomorrow. He is on Tramadol and Clavimox. Right now he is busy trying to get the bandage off of his leg from his blood draw. We would appreciate prayers and good thoughts for good labs and a quick surgery for our little man. -
No Problem
I understand there is still controversy regarding Trilostane (my vet does not use it but supports my right to "be different" - a specialist at the veterinary college near us does recommend it as a better first option)
Many of the failures with trilostane seem to have been due to starting on too high a dosage and there were also reported compounding problems which is why some folk used to get it directly from England (It is much more widely available now)
Our two first-hand successes with trilostane stabilized on 1/4 and 1/8 of the recommended daily dosage.
Our only success (and this was second-hand) with Lysodren was also a much lower dosage than expected and needed to be reduced again after a crash which occurred in later years - the good news is that the dog in question was diagnosed at age 8 and lived to be 17.
Is Misty also low thyroid??
Misty is lucky to have such a dedicated and persevering owner
Pam
Pam, I appreciate your input and your experience. There has been much debate on Lysodren vs Trilostane. All I can say is that my vet prefers the Lysodren and its success rate is much higher than Trilostane. I have had this discussion with 2 other very Grey savy vets and they too suggested the Lysodren. Currently, my vet is treating 12 cases of Cushings, however Misty is the first GH with it in the practice. As for the Pred, she's on a very very low dose and it's only given on Monday and Tuesday. We do the ACTH Stim test on 12/9. Once again, I really do appreciate your input and your concern!
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Hi
I tried to PM but could not do so
Also, sorry to be coming in "late" on this and hope my questions will not be an annoyance.
Was there a particular reason for going with Lysodren vs Trilostane
I have first hand knowledge and very close second hand knowledge with both drugs.
If she has to have prednisone on a regular basis then I seriously wonder if Lysodren is appropriate in her case.
Please understand this is not intended as criticism but is simply observations from dealing with Cushings and a desire to help in any way I can.
Sincerely
Pam
QC Canada
jansim@allstream.net
[Misty is on the anti-cancer drug, Lysodren and also Prednisone to prevent her from crashing -
Please remind me - what is Misty being treated with for the Cushings
Pam
QC Canada
When Misty was dx with Cushings, we knew what we would be in for, a rollercoaster ride for sure. Even knowing this is a brain tumor, I have held on to the statistics that 80% of the tumors are not malignant. I did not put her through the testing because I thought it best to not know. Treatment wouldn't be different so why know? I was excited because she gained back a few pounds but has since lost those and really doesn't want to eat. When she refused ice cream, I knew she really did not feel well. So if you could spare any more prayers, please say a prayer for my little Bo-Peep. Thanks! -
Is the recipe in one of the forums??
Sending good vibes to Stormy
Pam
Batmom's meatloaf was a hit - he woofed almost 3 squares. I made it with ground turkey and beef and left out the wheat germ. Harley had it as a mix-in and loved it too. He is clearly better, so despite the oncologist's opinion, it seems his anorexia and lethargy is/was more related to the chemo than the cancer. -
This sounds horribly like an episode I had with an elderly Border Terrier female 10 years ago - we did not find a cause at the time and lost her six months later to peritonitis.
In hind sight we believe it was a serious bacterial infection (which for some reason did not result in a fever)
Aside from the great advice you have already received I would consider a bacterial cutlture of the stool - also checking (or treating) for giardia and coccidia
The dark stool is indicative of upper GI bleeding or peritonitis
Sending lots of good vibes
Pam
<<The other night we thought that we were loosing him. He had some sort of episode where he was un-responsive and wasn't breathing. We all believed that it was the end and were readly to let him go. His breathing became very shallow and he only took little breaths that were very few and far between. After a while of this his breathing started to regulate and by the next morning there was no signes that he had the episode the night before. We all believe that he shouldn't be alive today but he is.>>
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I also have a PDF of an article printed in our Border Terrier newsletter that is a easy read if anyone would like it
Just email me at jansim@allstream.net
Pam
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My guys (non-greys) go to shows and events all over the place but we crtainly do not do every year shots - even our vets in town where there are a lot of dog parks have joined the three year recomendation.
We do Rabies and DHPP boosters 12 months after their puppy shots, then Rabies every three years and DH2PP at 3-4 yrs, 7-8 yrs and maybe 10 yrs - if I was concerned about an older dog I would do titres
Pam
I don't take Alan to dog parks, but we go to a neighborhood park where other dogs "go". He does sniff out stuff there. Would this be a reason for the DA2P-PV? -
The greatest gift may be the hardest one to give
May you draw strength from this poem
Pam
Goodbye
Author unknown
If it should be that I grow ill or weak,
And pain should keep me from my sleep,
Then you must do what must be done,
For this last battle cannot be won.
You will be sad - I understand,
But then don't grief let stay your hand,
For this day more than all the rest,
Your love and friendship stands the test.
We've had so many happy years,
What is to come holds no fears.
Take me where my needs they'll tend,
Only stay with me until the end
And hold me close and speak to me
Until my eyes no longer see.
I know in time you too will see
It is a kindness that you do for me
Although my tail it's last has waved,
From pain and suffering I've been saved.
Don't grieve so that it must be you
Who has decided this thing to do
We've been so close we two these years
Don't let your heart hold any tears.
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The eyes darting back and forth is a classic sign of vestibular rather than a seizure
Pam
Were her eyes fixed or darting back and forth?Does this make a difference to being a seizure or not?
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I have to agree on the tooth removal, the odds are the abscess will return. Having had dentistry done on 16 and 17 year-old terriers and surgery done on 13-14 year-old sighthounds, I admit it is downright scary.
It is generally the pre-meds and any pain meds that are the issue not the actual anaesthesia gas - you could talk to your vet about "masking her down"
This simply means administering enough gas via mask to "knock her out" then intubating really quickly (and I mean quickly).
This is incredibly safe (though it requires a very dexterous vet or vet-tech) only downside is that dogs handled this way also come round very fast and need the owner or someone who can be calm and collected when they do as they are wide awake and usually a "tad" upset.
Pam
QC Canada
They need to remove the tooth; the toxins in that are bad. We did that on a very sick 16 year old cat with kidney and bladder issues but it was the tooth making him sick,not the other issues. He was so much better after the tooth was removed. Zoe probably won't eat because her mouth is killing her.I have to wonder if Zoe has a bladder or other urinary stone too. An xray will show that. They can deal with both things at once if need be.
Best wishes! I know what you're going through is very stressful for both of you.
Marcia
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This chart gives gives degree of chocolate toxicity based on the weight of the dog and the type of chocolate consumed.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/10/...nteractive.html
In the event that a dog has consumed, or may have consumed, a harmful quantity of chocolate, vomiting should be induced using hydrogen peroxide. (Providing the dog is not already vomiting or showing other symptoms of chocolate toxicity.)
In the event of a serious amount of chocolate having disappeared and there being more than one possible culprit - dose everyone (though in some cases, the smell of chocolate on the breath will indicate the ringleader.)
Pam
QC Canada
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Something like Anipryl may well help though it doesn't happen over night
It is always hard to quantify quality of life - there is our perspective and then the animal's perspective and that is where it gets difficult - we are making a life or death decision for another creature and the only input we are getting from that creature has to be interpreted to the best of our ability.
What is the right time for one dog and owner may not be the right time for another.
Pam
I have not read everyone's responses, but from what you describe it seems to me he could have something along the lines of Canine Cognitive Dysfunction, go to this link. Sending positive thoughts, deciding on what is in your dog's best interest is a hard thing to come to terms with when euthanasia seems the best option.
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My sincere thanks to the Greyt folk who rallied to help this little guy - Only wish everyone's efforts could have been rewarded with a happier ending
What a tragedy.
Pam
I didn't even know you but hoped we would find you and return you home safely.You were certainly loved by those who knew you.
Godspeed lil' Albert.
If You Have Any Prayers Left...
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Diet is not a major concern with Cushings though there is anecdotal evidence that dogs seem to do better on raw/fresh/homemade diets and surley shrimp would fall in to that category
- Misty's challenge is indeed the kidney aspect - lots of good vibes coming her way
Pam