Supplements

[Guest Figmama]

I've read some about supplements for dogs diagnosed with cancer. I've heard Omega-3 is good, Vitamin C?

If anyone has supplemented a cancer pup, would like to know what you gave and in what dosages?

thanks

[Guest snakes]

For my pup with osteo:

1 capsule fish oil

4 capsules cod liver oil

2 capsules curcumin (500mg each)

1 tab multivitamin (theragran brand)

Calcium (2-3tab daily, i can't remember the dose offhand)

10mg famitodine

artemisinin (4 days on, 3 days off)

Ground flax (a bit shaken on each meal)

Chinese herbal mixture (i won't say the type as an herbal practitioner should suggest the right one for each pup).

 

I don't think it is relevant to your situation but he also gets pamidronate infusions.

[Guest Swifthounds]

Wow. Why so much cod liver oil?

[Guest Figmama]

For my pup with osteo:

1 capsule fish oil

4 capsules cod liver oil

2 capsules curcumin (500mg each)

1 tab multivitamin (theragran brand)

Calcium (2-3tab daily, i can't remember the dose offhand)

10mg famitodine

artemisinin (4 days on, 3 days off)

Ground flax (a bit shaken on each meal)

Chinese herbal mixture (i won't say the type as an herbal practitioner should suggest the right one for each pup).

 

I don't think it is relevant to your situation but he also gets pamidronate infusions.

 

I am going to start Omega 3 but not sure of the dose.

I don't know what curcumin is and have been reading up some on the artemisinin but not sure what that is either. I just have not had time to research this stuff much. I signed up for that group on yahoo but I really don't understand what they are doing or using. I was going to add Vit E and Vit C also?

thanks for the info

[Guest Swifthounds]

For the Omega 3s a therapeutic dose is 300mgs of combined DHA and EPA per 10# of body weight daily. That's the dose where you'll see the anti-inflammatory and protective effects.

 

That info is on the back of the label, FYI. ThR mgs listed on the front is just the amount of oil.

[4My2Greys]

For my pup with osteo:

1 capsule fish oil

4 capsules cod liver oil

2 capsules curcumin (500mg each)

1 tab multivitamin (theragran brand)

Calcium (2-3tab daily, i can't remember the dose offhand)

10mg famitodine

artemisinin (4 days on, 3 days off)

Ground flax (a bit shaken on each meal)

Chinese herbal mixture (i won't say the type as an herbal practitioner should suggest the right one for each pup).

 

I don't think it is relevant to your situation but he also gets pamidronate infusions.

 

I am going to start Omega 3 but not sure of the dose.

I don't know what curcumin is and have been reading up some on the artemisinin but not sure what that is either. I just have not had time to research this stuff much. I signed up for that group on yahoo but I really don't understand what they are doing or using. I was going to add Vit E and Vit C also?

thanks for the info

 

Curcumin (Tumeric) – yellow pigment that is the main component of Tumeric, an Indian herb in the ginger family. Seems to have anti-carcinogenic properties at many levels of cancer as a prevention and treatment. Has been used effectively for tumor shrinkage topically as a paste also. Exact dosages unknown. Available in grocery stores and specialty stores.

 

I would suggest using Thorne Meriva SR for better absorption. You can get it from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Thorne-Research-Meriva-SR-Curcumin-Phytosome/dp/B0012DABGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307480856&sr=8-1

http://www.thorne.com/Products/Antioxidants-Flavonoids/prd~SF775.jsp

 

There is some good information on Artemisinin on this website, which also has the contact information for Drs. Lai and Singh who developed the treatment protocol. From what I understand they are both very helpful with any questions.

http://www.bonecancerdogs.org/main/document/50

 

As far as Artemisinin goes there are different forms. Artemix from Hepalin has a mix of Artemisinin, Artusenate and Artemether. It is more expensive than giving straight Artemisin. A bottle of Artemix I'm guestimating would last you about 15 days and is $60. It is dosed based on the Artemether which is 1-2mg/lb.

You could consider a 100 mg Artemisinin / 50 mg Artusenate combination. These 2 bottle combined would cost around $100 and last you about 2 months.

http://holleypharma.com/store/item/fo7b/Products/ArteMin_100.html

http://www.hepalin.com/hepasunate50.htm

The important thing to remember with Artemisinin is to give it around 10:00 p.m, 3 to 4 hours after the last meal. You would give the Vitamin C & E during the morning and afternoon / early evening meal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Figmama]

For my pup with osteo:

1 capsule fish oil

4 capsules cod liver oil

2 capsules curcumin (500mg each)

1 tab multivitamin (theragran brand)

Calcium (2-3tab daily, i can't remember the dose offhand)

10mg famitodine

artemisinin (4 days on, 3 days off)

Ground flax (a bit shaken on each meal)

Chinese herbal mixture (i won't say the type as an herbal practitioner should suggest the right one for each pup).

 

I don't think it is relevant to your situation but he also gets pamidronate infusions.

 

I am going to start Omega 3 but not sure of the dose.

I don't know what curcumin is and have been reading up some on the artemisinin but not sure what that is either. I just have not had time to research this stuff much. I signed up for that group on yahoo but I really don't understand what they are doing or using. I was going to add Vit E and Vit C also?

thanks for the info

 

Curcumin (Tumeric) – yellow pigment that is the main component of Tumeric, an Indian herb in the ginger family. Seems to have anti-carcinogenic properties at many levels of cancer as a prevention and treatment. Has been used effectively for tumor shrinkage topically as a paste also. Exact dosages unknown. Available in grocery stores and specialty stores.

 

I would suggest using Thorne Meriva SR for better absorption. You can get it from Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Thorne-Research-Meriva-SR-Curcumin-Phytosome/dp/B0012DABGC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307480856&sr=8-1

http://www.thorne.com/Products/Antioxidants-Flavonoids/prd~SF775.jsp

 

There is some good information on Artemisinin on this website, which also has the contact information for Drs. Lai and Singh who developed the treatment protocol. From what I understand they are both very helpful with any questions.

http://www.bonecancerdogs.org/main/document/50

 

As far as Artemisinin goes there are different forms. Artemix from Hepalin has a mix of Artemisinin, Artusenate and Artemether. It is more expensive than giving straight Artemisin. A bottle of Artemix I'm guestimating would last you about 15 days and is $60. It is dosed based on the Artemether which is 1-2mg/lb.

You could consider a 100 mg Artemisinin / 50 mg Artusenate combination. These 2 bottle combined would cost around $100 and last you about 2 months.

http://holleypharma.com/store/item/fo7b/Products/ArteMin_100.html

http://www.hepalin.com/hepasunate50.htm

The important thing to remember with Artemisinin is to give it around 10:00 p.m, 3 to 4 hours after the last meal. You would give the Vitamin C & E during the morning and afternoon / early evening meal.

 

 

 

Thanks so much for the information. I am signed up on the Artemisinin Yahoo groups but don't think I'll try that.

Due to his protein issues, I am going to leave him on his regular food of Natural Balance fish and sweet potato and am making up a crock pot now of lean ground beef, chicken, beef liver, zucchini, tomato, green beans, garlic and chicken broth to add to his food. I also got some of the cottage cheese and the Omega-3. He will be staying on his BP meds and the Fomitidine.

 

I still don't see any more enlarged nodes but he is sleeping a lot (well,he always has) and is looking rather thin. Still tossing his big stuffed dog around when he is ready for his walk and still enjoying his two walks a day.