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I couldn't take it anymore and finally called. I told the girl my name and told her we dropped off our dog yesterday for surgery and I thought she was having it first thing this morning. I said I still hadn't heard anything. She asks, "Callie?" I said yes and she said she's ok, she's out of surgery. I said oh ok, I was worried. She said we would of called if something was wrong. Dr. A does his surgeries back-to-back-to-back and then he makes all his calls in evening between 7 and 8.
No one told us that, in fact I thought he said someone would call us. I'm just so thankful the surgery is over. Will update tonight after the surgeon calls......thanks so much for being there for us.
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It's 1015 am and no word yet. I woke up before 4am and couldn't fall back asleep. I feel like I'm going to be sick, the waiting is almost unbearable. At least no early call, which is what I was dreading. (The vet had said an early call would be bad news as it would of meant her chest x-ray wasn't clear.)
I'm usually prrtty good in a crisis, but not when my babies are involved...I just fall apart.
I'm at work and sending this from my cell, but wanted to let you know there's no news yet.
xo,
Kim
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I'm very sorry for the late reply.
We had our vet visit at 1pm. We arrived around 1250pm and I went inside to see where they wanted us to go since Herman was going to carry her. I had to first fill out two papers on Callie's history. The receptionist, after finding out that we had to carry Callie in and how much she weighed, put us in a room right off the lobby. When I got back out to the car, Herman had the windows open?? It was bitter cold out! He said Callie was kind of freaking out, trying to stand and panting. Once we got her out of the car and Herman held her under her belly, she peed a lot in the parking lot.
We got her in the room and there was really no where for her to lay down. A tech came in and then brought us a thin mat and a bath towel, clearly not cushy enough for our Callie. I ran back out to the car and brought in her quilt and made her a nice comfy nest on the floor. Herman has to pick her up and lay her sideways, she hasn't quite mastering laying down using only three legs. She was shivering and shaking so bad before laying down, I was afraid for her. She actually calmed down quickly once she laid down and I shut the door so she couldn't see/hear all the commotion in the lobby.
The new vet came in... I immediately liked him a lot. Very easy to talk to. First thing he asked is how did she get around before this. Herman says her back legs are really bad. I immediately said they are not, she was able to get up off the couch and off her bed on the floor being in pain and only using three legs, she just needs a little traction (like floor rugs). We have hardwood floors and she slips on them sometimes.
The vet said, "Time out" and then laid it on the line. Either she has the surgery or she is put to sleep <--- he didn't use those words, but it was clear what he meant. He went over her x-rays and said they may take another, but really he can see what he has to do. Herman asked if he would take x-rays of her back legs, no he wouldn't.
He will take a chest x-ray first thing in the morning (he gets in around 6am) and if all looks clear, plans to proceed with Callie first. He said we don't want a call from them until later in the day because an early call will be bad news. He said he will give her a pain patch, a catheter to pee and something else (maybe an IV?).
He said if the surgery proceeds, she can leave when they are sure she can handle on three legs.
I asked about using Amacar...he said he was expecting that question after talking to our vet. He said he has no problem using it, then asked me if I had any?? Was I supposed to provide my own?? (maybe he thought I got some from our vet, I guess)
So we said our goodbyes and then waited for a gurney to take Callie to behind... well the "gurney" was just a flimsy metal table on wheels. Knowing Callie would freak out --- she freaked out every time a hotel luggage cart rolled by when we were on vacation --- and I was right. I kept telling them that it was problem, Herman would carry her to the back. The girl finally said they are putting dogs under or putting them to sleep and he can't go back there --- I hope she was just making an excuse because maybe only staff is to go past a certain point. Anyway, we decide that each of us would take a corner of the quilt and lift her up on the table. Once the table moved a couple of inches, Callie tried to get up. They stopped and covered her legs up with the quilt and off they went.
Once they brought the quilt back, we were on our way home. Driving down the highway I was having flashbacks of the first time I saw Callie's face, her eyes, in a Petco and the tears wouldn't stop. I am dreading morning, so afraid we are going to get a bad call. I just want her surgery to get over with, her to be out of pain and come back home where she belongs.
If you've read this far, thank you. I tend to ramble and throw in a lot of unimportant details...I guess it's for my benefit, it helps me remember everything that happened.
Hopefully I will have good news tomorrow. I'm going to try and go into work... I can't believe how tired I am though! My arms are so sore and weak feeling, and I didn't even carry Callie. I guess it's from nerves, also everything I eat makes me sick.
Thank you everyone for prayers, love and concern shown to Callie, Herman and I. Meredith, Jane made me cry. I hope Callie obeys her.
Good night everyone,
kim
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All in all Callie had a good night, considering. Twice she had gotten off the couch by herself. The first time when we tried to put her back on, she peed a lot while standing there (vet said she gave her a lot of fluids). The second time she was kind of heading toward the front door, so we ran and got our coats and put her right outside the door, but nothing.
Sammie keeps coming around Callie and sniffing (being gentle, but annoying) so Callie is showing her teeth at her. Pixie seems confused of what is going on with her sister, but was obviously happy she was back home.
I had given her 1.5 tablets of Tramadol around 930pm and was going to give her another 1.5 at 130am and hope she slept through the night. Around 1230am I heard commotion in the hallway, Callie had gotten off the couch and was headed to our bedroom to get on her bed.
It was nice to have her in there for the night. Callie was sleeping so good that I skipped the 130am Tramadol. Around 450am, Callie woke us up trying to get up. We let the other two outside to go potty. She got up by herself and walked over on Pixie's bed and peed up a storm.
We were glad, but I'm kind of concerned that she hasn't pooped yet. We got Callie situated on her bed again, gave her another 1.5 of Tramadol, got Pixie's bed squared away and all went back to sleep.
Now Callie is somewhat hanging off her bed, with her head on the hardwood floor. I asked Herman to help me move her back up on her bed, but she let this hoarse cry and I don't think I had even touched her yet. Maybe she was anticipating the pain and trying to brace herself. I just can't stand seeing her in this much pain.
I put a pillow under her head and we'll just leave her where she is since we have to leave for the vet around 1215pm.
Our vet called around 730am to ask about Callie... she was pleased to hear that she got herself up off the couch and her bed. Yesterday she was worried she had hit her head when/if she fell because she was kind of stiff, like her back legs weren't working, that maybe there was something neurological going on. I didn't think that, just thought she was so afraid, in so much pain and stressed that she was shutting down.
I don't know what I would do without Herman! He's able to pick her up and carry her (although his back is sore this morning)... I could probably pick her up in a pinch, but I think I would hurt her more.
I offered Callie a bit of can cat food yesterday (she steals it all the time!), but she wasn't interested. I had a can of white meat chicken and she did lick and and nibble a small bit, but then turned her head. She wouldn't drink water, but I found this big syringe we had from Kony and filled it was cool water. She did seem to enjoy that, since her mouth seems so dry.
I am anxious to get to this new vet and very nervous. I hope Callie is a good candidate for surgery.
Oh forgot, when the vet called this morning she had got the results from Callie's bloodwork (after talking the the surgery hospital, they told her to send it last night so we could get a jumpstart of that today). She said it is actually pretty good, just shows she was a little dehydrated. I ran last night about 750pm and picked up Callie's x-rays (although I think they will take more), at least they can kind of see right away what's going on.
Thank you all for all the prayers and well wishes... I took off work again today and if Callie has the surgery, I think I'll go in on Thursday and Friday. We have a 3 day weekend and then maybe I will ask off for next week anticipating Callie's return home. I don't want to count my chickens before they're hatched though.
Will let you know how this all goes...
xoxo
Kim, Herman & Callie
p.s. Thank you Meredith for the offer!
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Yes Jane, thank YOU, this is a greyt help! I am going to print off and take with me to the vet tomorrow.
I already knew about the Amicar (thank you Leann!), but the rest is so valuable too. I am giving Callie 1 and 1/2 Tramadol every 4 hours and trying to keep her home until out 1pm appointment tomorrow. If she is too restless or the pain becomes unbearable, I can take her there anytime for some stronger pain meds. I'm going to run to our vet tonight before they close to pick up Callie's x-rays, although I think they will do more. Our vet had been holding Callie's blood before sending to the lab, but after talking to the specialty hospital, they said to send it and get a head start and she'll fax the results tomorrow morning.
Our vet also went over you #1 regarding if Callie is a good candidate for amputation - will she be able to support herself. She had a little back leg weakness so that concerns me greatly.
I know this hospital we are taking her to has worked with OSU with other greyhounds they have done, so that's comforting.
Thank you again for the all this information, it's going to help us greatly tomorrow to have everything laid out and know what to ask, etc...
kim
p.s. I'm so very sorry to hear about Joe. I hope he is doing well.
I am so sorry to hear this. My boy Joe had his front leg amputated on July 28 at OSU. This is what I've learned in regards to what OSU recommends.
1) Before amputation, a complete orthopedic examination should be given. X-rays should be taken of the legs and possibly the back. An examination for lumbar stenosis should be done. Mild arthritis and mild lumbar stenosis are acceptable. Severe problems with the legs and back might cause the dog not to be a good candidate for amputation. If the dog is currently walking on just three legs, it is very likely they will do well after amputation, despite findings of mild arthritis or back issues.
2) Before amputation, a chest x-ray should be done. Visible metastases in the lungs do not cause a dog not to be a candidate for amputation but it should be understood that the expected life span will be shorter. Amputation in this case is done to relieve pain. There has been some promising results in the treatment of lung mets with the drug Palladia, combined with Cytoxan and artemisinine. In the past, amputation on a dog with lung mets was very rarely done. Now Dr. Couto will do amputation in a dog with lung mets in rare, selected cases.
3) Before amputation, do complete blood work. Pay special attention to clotting factors.
4) During amputation, carefully monitor the dogs temperature. Some greyhounds develop hyperthermia. I believe it is common practice now, but the surgeon should lower the dogs temperature during surgery.
5) I believe, but am not positive, that OSU starts IV aminocaproic acid (Amicar) during surgery.
6) The surgery should only be done at a hospital that has a vet physically present 24/7 in an ICU environment. A greyhound should stay in the hospital with constant monitoring for 3 to 5 days. Care should be taken to monitor excessive bleeding. The majority of the deaths in the 5 days following surgery occur when the dog in a hospital that does not provide 24 hour ICU care.
7) Aminocaproic Acid (Amicar) should be administered for at least 5 days after surgery. Greyhounds do not form strong clots (even though there clotting factors appear normal in blood tests). Bleeding severe enough to cause death can occur as long as 5 days post surgery and seem to peak at 2 to 3 days post surgery. Administering Amicar drastically reduces the chance of severe bleeding. This is not a drug that is often kept on hand at many vets offices, so they should plan in advance and procure it prior to surgery if at all possible.
8) Greyhounds tend to get more nervous and stressed than other breeds of dogs. OSU has found that keeping them "doped up" on a combination of fentanyl, lidocaine, and ketamine via IV is helpful. This often continues for 2 to 3 days with the dog being weaned off the IV meds. By the time the dog is ready to come home, they have been on an oral pain control program (typically Deramaxx and tramadol) long enough to ensure that it is effective.
9) OSU gets the dogs up to urinate the day of the surgery. They put the dog on a cart and take them outside. Then 2 or 3 people lift the dog (with the aid of a sling) and encourage it to urinate. This is done regularly, whether or not they actually pee. They feel this is an important way of teaching the dog how to live with three legs as well as providing physical therapy to improve blood circulation. The dog is typically able to walk some the day after surgery and this is actively encouraged. By the 3rd day, most dogs are able to walk on their own for several hundred feet.
I hope this info helps you.
Jane
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Kim, I'm so so sorry to hear this about Callie. I was in your shoes a year ago with Diamond. It was her right front as well.
I don't know what option you're going to end up taking, but I just wanted to let you know what I did. Diamond was 2 weeks shy of her 12th BD. I drove from NJ to OSU so that Dr. Couto could tell me if she was an amp candidate. My biggest fear was that she couldn't live as a tripod. I felt she would survive the actual surgery. But living on 3 legs, not so much
We spent the day there and the consensus was that while she was a bit arthritic, she was healthy enough to live as a tripod.
They all thought she would take extra long to heal due to her age, but she surprised them all and was ready to go home by Tues from a Fri surgery. That bordered on being early!
Anyway, once she healed from surgery which took just 2 weeks for the worse to be over, she had a happy and pain free life for 6 months until OS showed up in another leg.(we also did chemo, they sent it to my vet in NJ).
The only thing I did for Diamond was to build a ramp to go outside since there are 6 steps to get outside from any of my doors. I have a dog door and she had no problems with that. She mastered the ramp easily (but we did practice before we went out to OSU. I had it built in a weekend and since her leg was already hurting, she was happy to use the ramp.
No matter what option you chose, it is the right one for you, because you're making it with Callie's happiness in mind.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Callie too is just shy of 12, will be 12 on February 28th. Callie was having a little back leg weakness, but was still walking pretty well and even could give a little run in the yard after the other two. Our vet (she isn't Callie's regular, so she hasn't seen her before today), but she mentioned about the back legs and wondered if she hit her head when she fell (not really sure if she even did fall) and something neurological wasn't going on. I don't think it is. She said that it's possible Callie would get the amputation and wouldn't be able to handle being a tripod.
Right now we are waiting for our vet to call after consulting with a specialty surgery place less than 30 minutes ................ just heard from our vet - we have 1pm appointment tomorrow, but if she is in too much pain and restless anytime up until then, we can just head out there. I am going to run out to our vets after rush hour (they close at 8pm) and pick up Callie's x-rays, just in case we have to go during the night.
Thanks so much everyone for your comments and prayers....
kim
Yes, amicar! I talked to Leann from Rescued Racers and she said to insist they give Callie amicar, so I have that ingrained in my mind!
Kim, I'm so sorry to hear this about Callie.
The only thing I can think to add: if they confirm cancer and you opt for amputation, ask if the hospital has amicar to help control post-op bleeding.
In an old thread here on Greytalk, there were links to two articles from OSU--one about amicar and one about cancer in greyhounds. You might want to print both those articles and take them with you--or at least store the links in your cellphone so you can pass them on to whatever vets you see.
Good luck.
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Thank you SO MUCH Kelly, I already did talk to Leann about VSS. I've called our vet and she's already called VSS, but I think she said a Dr. Anderson is in surgery and she is waiting to hear back from him. If we can get her in tonight (and it seems she's a good candidate for surgery after testing), then hoping she can get surgery tomorrow morning.
The convenience thing is good and that we can see her when we want. Our vet said she could do the amputation, but I don't think they have someone there 24 hours --- which is what she needs. (although I guess they have someone there to come and checks on patients who have to stay), but would prefer her to be monitored and have someone on site.
Will let you know what happens - thank you all for your support, you don't know how much it's appreciated.
This IS my worst nightmare.
kim
Oh No! Poor Callie!
Let me know if there's anything I can do.
Have you thought about VSS instead of the University? Leann used them, and I know that's where we've had chemo done for the
foster dogs.
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Our Callie broke her leg last night and it's probably osteo. Our vet called OSU and was told that the main drug they use is backordered, so they are using an alternate for their patients.
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Our greyhound Callie broke her leg last night. We hope she just slipped on the new snow/ice, but this morning's vet appointment confirmed the bone is broken. The vet said that near the break is cloudy and doesn't look like a healthy bone, so we are assuming it's osteo. To say I am devastated would be an understatement.
The vet has already consulted with someone (not Dr. Cuoto) at OSU and we are definitely taking Callie to U of MO Veterinary Hospital tomorrow, but more likely tonight. They couldn't get her an appointment until next Tuesday, but the vet said there are ways around that...we will just take her in as an emergency.
My head is spinning ... I don't know where to begin. I know they will do the bloodwork there (and our vet held off just in case so we wouldn't be charged today and then have it repeated tonight or tomorrow) and they are going to do some kind of x-ray (I think?) to see if it has spread.
It's her right front leg which isn't ideal.
Is there anything specfically I should ask ---- when our vet called OSU, they said the main cancer drug they used on the osteo is backordered, so they are using an alternate.
At U of MO, she said they do a combination of 2 drugs (I believe?), three weeks apart, for a total of 4 treatments. They do have a good oncology unit there - we took one of our dogs to U of MO back in 1998 for radiation for a mast cell tumor and she was cured.
We had dropped Callie off at the vet for x-ray around 930am and just had enough time to drive home and the vet called and asked us to come back and get her because she was really stressed out and her temperature was rising (I think). We went back and she did give Callie some IV pain meds and bandaged her broken leg/shoulder really well to give it some support. We have some Tramadol for pain. We were going to go back tomorrow, but in the meantime she wanted to make some calls to OSU and U of MO.
Right now she is resting/sleeping on the couch, so I hate to disturb her now for the trip so I think I may wait until she wakes up.
Thanks for reading... just so glad this resource is here. (I was able to get OSU's numbers/info off Greytalk on my phone in the vet's office!)
Kim
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Here are the site addresses for the two Cushings lists I was on for our Scampie. They helped SO MUCH!!! Our sweet Scampie lived 4 years after diagnosis and didn't pass away from anything Cushings related, so if you you read anything that tells you they live 2 years after diagnosis, that isn't true. They have dogs on the lists that had gone years on treatment and were doing well.
Yahoo Group for Cushings and Canine Cushings Forum
Good luck and keep us posted!
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Our girl Scampie (not a greyhound) had Cushings and did very well on Lysodren. We got it at Walgreens.
There is a couple of online support lists for Cushings that really helped me. I will try and find the addresses.
Best of luck to Windston!
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Kodi
in Remembrance
Kodi was very gentle with our cats... enjoying Frosty Paws with Callie and Peanut for Callie's birthday.
Christmas 2005... now Kony, Bailey and Kodi are gone.
I took Kodi with Callie and I to one Greyhound Planet Day event and everyone was petting and asking about Kodi, I guess Callie wasn't anything special in a sea of greyhounds.
In December 2007 we had Kodi's teeth cleaned at the vet and also a nail trimming while he was under. It was found that one of Kodi's teeth had chipped off and was probably causing him pain so the tooth was pulled. Once home I started to notice that Kodi would stumble every so often. In spring of 2008 he was diagnosed with Degenerative Myelopathy, which is described as MS for dogs. There is no cure, but we hoped to keep the disease at bay as long as possible.
We had custom Thera-Paws made that supported his ankles, but he wouldn't let us put them on him. We had to take him to the vet to be sedated, have his nails trimmed and his boots fitted. Once at home after the anesthesia wore off later that evening, he cried until I took the boots off.
We tried Hydrotherapy. I have tons of videos on YouTube of Kodi during his sessions. Kodi's appointment was always right after St. Bernard Argus, so the water was always murky. After every session we would drive through McDonalds and get him a plain cheeseburger and fries so it would give him something to look forward to after, plus you always get hungry after swimming.
In the car he always laid his head in between the two front seats on the arm rest. 
Kodi always wanted to be by Herman, but over the years Kodi and I formed a deep bond. When Kodi got into trouble (often
) and Herman would cry, "KODI!", he would run and sit by me. 
I ordered this tag for Kodi from a friend at the Bluegrass Festival, and it was true, he was my boy. 
Kodi's last picture right before his vet visit. He did rest his head on the center arm rest on that final drive.
Kodi (Kodiak Summer) ~ June 1995 - January 24, 2009
We love you so much sweetie, be a good boy until we meet again....
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Kodi
in Remembrance
With much sadness and sorrow I have to tell you that Kodi, our beautiful boy in my banner, left us January 24, 2009. He left us on a Saturday morning, just as he came to us on a Saturday morning back in 1996.
Back in spring 1996 Herman was without a K-9 partner. His previous dog Carlo had been retired to us for medical reasons and he passed away May 31, 1996. Bomb dogs usually come from the FAA (now TSA), but they had a dog shortage at that time. A private citizen contacted the police department and wanted to donate their German Shepherd because he was too hyper for them. Kodi was born in Germany and then flown to the States.
Herman picked up Kodi from his first home on Saturday morning, June 1, 1996. Once in front of the house, Kodi was too afraid to get out of the car. I brought out PJ and Scampie, our two other dogs, and we all finally coaxed him out.
Kodi worked with Herman for a few years, but he was retired early. Their team had to be certified every year and would work weird hours during certification. When Herman would sleep, Kodi would not. He cried to go out everytime someone would go to the back door, even though he was supposed to be getting rest. He would play in the house all day, not sleep, which made him exhausted during the tests. When Kodi had enough rest, he was an excellent worker. He did manage to pass the tests, but in 2000 when FAA had an abundance of dogs, the powers to be decided to retire Kodi to us and Herman would get an FAA dog, Kony.
There was some concern from *the powers to be* that Kodi and Kony wouldn't get along and maybe Kodi should find another home.
After a very stressful week or so, Kodi was signed over to us. Whew! He and Kony were fine together.
Kodi was on the detail that protected Pope John Paul II when he came to St. Louis in January 1999.
Kodi had a lot of quirks, some annoying, some endearing. Every time the back door would open, he would let out a blood curdling squeal and race through the house to the door... most times stopping to pick up his favorite toy at the moment, usually some sort of (or part of) a ball.
If you would pet him, he would growl, but not a mean growl, more like he was talking to you growl. Given his size, this scared some (most) people. He loved to snack in the litter boxes. He would eat paper towels. Funny, his annoying quirks just don't seem annoying now.
EVERY vet visit was an adventure. Kodi was deathly afraid of going to the vet. Even if he hadn't gone to the vet, but another of our dogs or cats had, once he smelled them, he would bow his head, his ears would be pinned back and he would rush straight downstairs. Over the years we tried pills before his visits, which just made him sleepy, but still afraid.
Clipping his nails was impossible unless muzzled, and only in the last year did I finally figure out a tricky way to muzzle him without us losing a limb in the process.... it was in the eye specialist office last February. That doctor refused to see him unless he was muzzled. Not wanting to give up the appointment, we asked him to leave the room and let us try again.
We finally found a wonderful vet who understood Kodi's fears and wasn't afraid of him.
Our greyhound Callie and Kodi became best friends from the first day she arrived in 2001. She wasn't afraid of him, in fact when he would do his growly lion roar, she would stick her muzzle in his mouth! Shortly after Callie arrived, Kodi decided to sample Callie's food... she broke him of that habit that day! She would chase him in the yard nipping at his ears until they were literally fringed. She would try to sample his food and he would just step away... she wanted a toy he had, he let her take it. He definitely met his match, he loved her as much as she loved him.
Kodi had bloat in 2004 and had the surgery... they normally keep the dog in the hospital until they are sure they can eat on their own. Kodi was "kicked out" of the hospital early because they were unable to take his muzzle/e-collar off. Callie was so depressed while Kodi was in the hospital, she refused to go potty, in fact she wouldn't leave the deck at all! We had to put a leash on her and keep walking until she finally went.
This was the night we brought Kodi home from the hospital. I think Callie was positively glowing!
Kodi would occasionally model with Callie on our charity greyhound auctions and raffles. Notice Kodi is holding his best friend's leash.
Kodi had to be a priest (notice his white collar) because he wouldn't tolerate a hat or costume that day. Kodi melted my heart this day... we had went to Three Dog Bakery for a Halloween parade and party to benefit our greyhound rescue group. Someone offered to watch Kodi and Callie while I went to pre-pay for the pictures. Kodi looked into my eyes with a very worried look and kept trying to follow me.
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I'm so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your famiy.
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I'm so very sorry.
What a touching tribute, your girl was certainly beautiful and brave! 
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I'm so sorry for your loss.
Stepper was just gorgeous. A beautiful tribute to a beautiful soul. 
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I am so sorry for your loss.
Mac is beautiful and sounds like he was just absolutely wonderful! You can really tell from the picture what a close bond he and your husband had. My deepest sympathy to you and your family.
If you'd like when you have time, start a thread introduce Will and Lily with pictures please. They sound lovely!
ETA: Never mind, I've seen you've already done that!
Willy, Lily, Butter, kitties and horses and gorgeous! 
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I'm so sorry, your girl was certainly beautiful!
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Holly
in Remembrance
Oh my heart is broken for you and this little life lost so tragically. So senseless, I wish they would of just sent beautiful Holly home.
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we got our first "appreciable" snowfall last nite. i think maybe 1.8" ember loved running in the snow, if u saw the tribute moovie, u know what i mean. althea went outside her usual routine and woke me up at 6 am ( instead of 7). i let her out to potty and she rewarded my sleepy eyes with some zoomies. the snow had turned over to rain already. we came back in and i went back to sleep and she poked me with her nose at 745 for breakfast. it was getting a slushy mess by then.....wonder if ember got althea moving early this morning so we could see some snow before it got icky..........
Yes I believe she did.
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Update:
Looks like "mom" was overreacting due to his recent illness. His stomach makes no thumpy sound and is no longer large or "bloated" at all, back to normal. Some gas seems to be the culprit! I feel very informed in case it were to happen. Thank you all so much you are all very kind and helpful!! And sorry I worried you all!
Aren't greys wonderful? That's why I got so concerned!
Oh, just saw this and about had a heart attack reading the posts after your original.
My girl PJ died from bloat (after the surgery) and I blame myself because I didn't realize what was happening and feel I waited too long to get her in. When our second dog Kodi bloated (hopefully the last!), as soon as I saw him I rushed him to the ER vet. My husband said I was overreacting, but I said I hope I was and they would just send us home, but I was right. He is still with us.
So glad your boy is alright now, although I am a wreck!
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What a scary thing ~ praying all works out with Sheila and she is alright.
Having 2 dogs that have bloated (the first was PJ, my first heart girl and I didn't know what was happening so I blame myself for not getting her to the vet sooner. She survived the surgery, only to die later that day from arrythmias (sp?)...
The second was Kodi who is pictured in my siggy. He had the surgery, but he was such a difficult patient (a real stinker), they discharged him before they could make sure he could eat on his own. ) My husband's partner July also has bloated before she came to live with us, so it's a big worry for us!Many prayers for Sheila and you... and your worried Carl too, that he has his girlie back home with him soon!
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I'm not a religious person. Spiritual, but not religious. I haven't raised my kids in a religion or church. (For better or worse.)
My younger son, however, now attends a private Catholic school (for academic reasons.) And one of the classes is to learn about Catholicism, obviously. Well, anyway, he's upset and confused because of the belief that animals do not have souls, and don't go to heaven. I told him that personally, I can't believe that God would make a creature who is perfect love, and not endow them with what we think of as a "soul." And if there are no dogs in heaven, I don't want to go.
So he thought, well, maybe animals go to a separate heaven and we can visit. I don't like that, either.
I have no idea what REALLY happens (who does), but I don't like this idea that people have an afterlife and animals just die.
Can someone explain to me the biblical basis for this Catholic belief that animals have no souls and don't go to heaven? (Assuming there's a heaven.) Where does it say this in the bible?
I am Catholic and I believe animals have souls and go to heaven.
Heaven is supposed to be, well heavenly! If there were no dogs/animals, how could that place be called Heaven??
I love "A Man and his Dog" posted in the post above... it sums up for me exactly what I think will happen to people who would abandon their dog/cat/bird/hamster...and so on and so on.
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Oh Tami, I am so so sorry.
This is such a beautiful picture of the both of you. True love.
It was nice to have her in there for the night. Callie was sleeping so good that I skipped the 130am Tramadol. 
We were glad, but I'm kind of concerned that she hasn't pooped yet. 
I put a pillow under her head and we'll just leave her where she is 
In the car he always laid his head in between the two front seats on the arm rest. 
I ordered this tag for Kodi from a friend at the Bluegrass Festival, and it was true, he was my boy. 
Callie Broke Her Leg - Update Post 220
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It's 440pm here and just heard from the surgeon. He said Callie did fine in surgery, but she's kind of out of it now. He thinks it's more from the drugs and not from the surgery or loss of the leg.
He said no news is good news. They'll give me a call in the morning to update.
I asked if she is on the Ammacar and he said yes.
Ok, now I begin my worry until the next call. Is being out of it normal if she had the surgery early this morning?
I do know when she had one of her dentals a couple of years back she was pretty out of it until late that evening. This is way bigger than a dental so that makes sense, but I'm still worrying. 