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. . . and also look at Lurchers.
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On 12/29/2019 at 12:19 PM, djsgreys said:
We have a large pack of greyhounds and a lot of other newly arrived greyhounds coming through our place on a regular basis. I routinely worm all my dogs but every foster gets the full NG treatment along with human grade DE for one full month. I have never found the DE to create any problems in the GI tract and have pretty good success in getting rid of worms up here.
Do you just sprinkle on top of food? We feed 1.5 cups of kibble in a little warm water with a topper of yogurt to pumpkin puree. Will the DE be effective if its added to the slurry?
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I'm not an expert, but can share my experience with 2 that we have adopted and several that we have fostered:
- If they are very picky eaters or perhaps even do not eat the first couple of days, try not to freak out (like I did). Eventually they all start to eat. They will not voluntarily starve themselves to death.
- I am an advocate of letting them sleep in the bedroom with me. In fact, until I felt semi confident that they could be trusted in the bedroom, I put the dog bed right beside me on the floor, and "gated" the area around it so that she could not roam the bedroom. I did this for maybe 3 nights until I trusted she could hold her bladder throughout the night.
- Take them out frequently the first few days/weeks. Make sure they have PLENTY of opportunities to pee/poop so that the opportunity for an accident in the house are decreased. Get some Natures Miracle just in case there is an accident.
- Keep poop bags with you when you take them out and ALWAYS pick up poop. Chances are you will get a dog who has the dreaded hookworms, and they eggs are passed into the environment via the stool. Since these hooks are resistant to a lot of drugs, we want to decrease the odds that other animals or wildlife come in contact with the eggs/larvea.
- Don't be alarmed if there is some barking or whining when you leave them alone at first. Start by leaving them for shorter periods if possible. We typically get dogs on a Saturday. On Sunday, we put them in the crate and leave them for 10-15 minutes in the morring, then increase that in the afternoon. We try to plan it so that one of us can be around more during he first week so that we are gradually building up the time they are alone in the crate. We use the crate to make sure they are not destructive when left alone. It reduces our anxiety tremendously to know that our brand new dog is not chewing up our furniture or having accidents all over the rugs or hardwoods. We have had 2 dogs with SA and it is NOT PRETTY. But we were told by our group that whining and barking is normal until they come to trust that they are safe and you will return, and that as long as they are not destructive in or soiling the crate, to not worry about it. We did get these and give our girl 2 an hour before we leave, just to play it safe and ease the transition. We have been using them for about a month and it may be placebo, but her barking really reduced once we started using these treats.
- Get a raincoat for your dog. And if you are in a cold climate, also a warmer coat for when it is super cold.
Im sure there is more, but the rain is coming and we have to get the pups our for their morning walk or there will be mutiny.
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Maybe it is her new way of telling you she loves you . . . so much that she literally cannot get enough of you so that she has to eat your clothing to carry around a piece of you inside of her:)
In all seriousness, our new girl, who is not at all interested in toys, LOVES to go after our socks. So far, she has not swallowed one bc we generally keep them picked up, but if we did not, I fear she would ingest them.
It might be a good time to start researching other breeds. As the number of dogs dwindles overall due to bans and track closures, spending some time figuring out the next best thing to having a greyhound might be wise. We just adopted a two year old, and may end up adding another to our pack in the next couple of years (we have very active adoption program in our city), but this is likely our last hoorah with greyhounds. We always thought we would only have them as pets, but with the changing times, we realize that our next go around, which will hopefully be many years in the future, we will likely be forced to choose a different breed . . .
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Tell me why you love, hate or are indifferent to as it relates to PPP/SSS salmon and rice. We are switching our new girl over to it and the jury is still out for us. We are cutting her over slowly, so at what point should we see improvements in her itchiness and a decrease in the quantity but improvement in the quality of her stools?
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Sweet little Grace.
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Latifah is going home tomorrow and I am already sad, but knowing we are the first in line to dog sit makes it better:). And as much as she makes us laugh, there is something to be said for the super chill energy of the 2 going on 6 year old
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38 minutes ago, FiveRoooooers said:
Soo cute
Is that really a basket o' stuffies on the table? What could possibly go rong?
Indeed it is. They were relegated there after HOURS of incessant squeaking by the 6 going on 2 year old. But this is what we ended up with tonight as we binged S3 of The Crown. Latifah is definitely one we let get away . . .
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Our previous foster, Queen Latifah, is staying with us over the holidays, and Bette is tolerating it:) Latifah has such a strong personality, in a good way. She is a very happy, bouncy, playful girl. She is 6 but seems like she is 2, and Bette is 2 but seems like she is the 6 year old. Aren't they cute?
Aren't they cute?
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8 hours ago, HeyRunDog said:
How much protein is in his diet?
For a retired greyhound it should be around 20% any higher can cause liver and kidney problems as well as making them hyperactive.Just curious . . . the kibble the foster group uses has 24% protein. Our vet just recommended Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin and Stomach, which has 26%. What brands are as low as 20% protein?
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I know there is place in the UK where many purchase their hookworm meds for a reduced rate. If you have it, can you share the link, please? Thanks.
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Thanks for the step by step. That is what I was looking for.
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6 hours ago, greysmom said:
Yes. The greyhound community has been dealing with treatment resistant hookworm for a while now - maybe going on 8-10 years since we first started seeing it widespread. It does usually take multiple courses of treatment - no matter what you choose to do - to get rid of the little buggers.
In addition to the Ng Protocol, my vet has offered the recently reformulated ProHeart shot, as that has a hookworm targeter that lasts for many months (either 6 or 12 months depending on the shot).
There is some controversy about ProHeart, but we have had one of our dogs on it since August (she has a compromised gut and immune system and can't take worming by mouth) and we haven't had a single problem.
As far as DE, there are many who will say it helps. My own feeling is that if it's rough enough to kill a worm, it's too rough for the inside of a dog's intestinal tract, and will cause more damage than it solves. Treating the yard with it should be fine though.
Hi Greysmom, I think the most alarming bit from the journal article is the risk that moxidectin is also becoming ineffective with the hooks. I suppose I was operating under a false sense of security that as long as we kept our pup on Advantage Multi, we would eventually tackle the buggers. I hope that is still the case, but the possibility that it could be otherwise is disheartening. I will definitely be looking into the treatment you shared. Thanks for that.
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I have been reading up on hookworms, as our recently adopted girl is positive. I have come across some alarming recently published data pointing to multiple drug resistance, including to Moxidectin in some dogs, which is the go to treatment at this point in time for this prevalent issue in GH's. My vet mentioned this to me earlier in the week when we took her in for her initial appointment to establish care. I don't meant to set off a panic, but at the same time, this is pretty darn scary. I am encouraged that there are many testimonials here that point to Advantage Multi coupled with Drontal, which has proven to be effective in clearing hookworms in their dog, so I hope that this will remain true for our girl and all the other hook positive pups out there.
I wonder if adding Diamataceous Earth as a food supplement while undergoing Dr. Ng's protocol would give a needed boost to the eradication of the parasites. Thoughts? Has anyone used DE with their GH's, and if so, what was the outcome?
I have been religiously picking up poop, but I am also going to start sprinkling the poop spots with DE, as well.
Ever onward in battling this scourge . . .
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Hello all. We have had Bette for almost 6 weeks. She is 2, and clearly knows how to jump up into the back of our Subaru Forester. She has done so on more than a few occasions when lured in by a high value treat. Other times, she just plants herself and won't budge. Will we forever have to use cheese to get her to hop up? If she refuses to get in on her own, we put her front legs up, then lift her around her waist to get her in. She loves to ride in the car, and rides really well. It does not seem to be a car aversion. It seems to be more of a "hop up" aversion. Any thoughts?
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Vet visit today to establish Bette as a new patient, and discussed the hookworms and flaky skin and she recommended Purina Sensitive Skin and Stomach, so just gonna go ahead and opt for that vs the Kirkland's L and R.
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Just curious, does anyone feed Kirklands Lamb and Rice, and if so, what is your review? We are switching our girl from the adoption group kibble, and went with Kirklands Land R for reasons of cost, good reviews, and a Costco is just down the street from work. Now I am wondering if I should return the bag and switch her to Purina Pro Plan, given all the love it is getting in this thread. She is only on day 2 of the switchover, so it would be easy to halt the Kirkland's and switch her over to Purina Pro Plan.
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On 12/17/2019 at 4:46 PM, NeylasMom said:
All for the bargain price of $2500.
I am pretty sure (I hope!) that this will be covered in part by her insurance since it was an emergency. I still have to pay 20% and I'll have to pay for the cleaning portion, but $500ish is much better than 5 times that! 
Nyelasmom, what pet insurance company do you use? We just adopted Bette and I am in the market for pet insurance. Since I have never purchased such a policy, I am a bit lost and overwhelmed with the choices. Given the risk of bad teeth with GH's, I'd love to take a look at a company that covers dental emergencies.
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Thanks everyone. We will keep with the program and I will investigate the shampoo mentioned. I feel like the consistent brushing helps a lot. She loves it too.
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Don't know exactly where to post this, so landed here. Our new girl (she came from the track 4.5 weeks ago) is quite itchy. She bites at herself and scratches with her paws at random places all over her body. We don't see any pronounced redness anywhere, and our group rep says that if it's a food allergy it would likely show up as diarrhea, which we do not see. She is flaking quite a bit. I am guessing it is just the dry winter air/gas heat. She has an appointment tomorrow to establish her with her new vet. We will discuss this there, too. Here is what we are doing to try to deal with this:
- run humidifiers in LR and BR, where she spends the bulk of her time.
- Brush her with a zoom 3-4 times a week to exfoliate the dry skin.
- 1000mg of fish oil 2x a day, with meals.
- Transitioning her from the kibble (Natures Select Cold Water Recipe) the group uses to Kirklands Lamb and Rice. We are on day 2 of cutting her over.
Anything else we should be doing?
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Congratulations. He really is beautiful.
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I feel ya re: the unexpected hit to the purse. Our girl Rosie (RIP) had to have ALL of her teeth removed bc she was one of those hounds who had such bad perio disease. It took place over 2 surgery dates, and it cost us $3600 about 5 years ago. She felt so much better afterwards. If Skye is in the hands of a veterinary dentist, odds are REALLY good that she will be just fine.
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I do believe we picked us a good 'en. Though some say she picked us. Either way is just fine by me.
Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin/Stomach Salmon
in Food and dietary discussion
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So far, we think we like the PP Sensitive skin/stomach. She has been fully cut over now for a couple of days, and seems to love it. She just got a dose of Advantage Multi and a Drontal Plus for hooks, so her poop has been pretty loose the past 36 hours, so we need a little longer to see how it will be on the new food. Her poop was mostly firm on the foster food, but we were feeding her 2+ cups a day and she was pooping like a maniac. Plus, her itchiness is so bad. This is likely due to reasons other than diet, but we are hoping that the new food will help with this.