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Is this happening around your dinner time consistently - if so, this sounds like a food obsession. Make sure he is muzzled and in another room when there is food being served. I agree that he needs to see a vet as something may be wrong. I also suggest talking to the trainers if you can and see if this was something that they also noted - however, if he was being fed in a crate, it might not have been noticeable.
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Did they check for worms - sometimes persistent hookworms can cause HGE. Also, greyhounds have thicker blood than most dogs so, your vet is not knowledgeable about greyhounds so, be careful. Did they put your dog on Probiotics and a bland diet (hamburger and rice)? You can also get a phone consultation with Dr. Couto who is very experienced with greyhounds.
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I'm not a fan of prescriptions but, if she gets destructive or very anxious, you might want to see if you can try Trazadone. There are other meds but, this is relatively quick - starts to have some effect in about 2 hours and seems to last for about 12 - 16 hours.
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What are you using for pain control - people here might be able to offer some suggestions. If you would be willing to take a trip up to Colorado, you might want to see if you can get in there for an earlier appointment. They were on the forefront of osteo research back about 15 years ago and it seems like they are still noteworthy. You might also see if anyone in the area will make a brace to protect the leg so less likely to fracture.
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Check with oncologist - if not going down the path of amputation, there is radiation and also infusion to make the bone stronger. You might also want to check what trials are going on - that is what link is for. It looks like there is a study in Colorado for an alternate option from amputation/radiation.
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Any chance there is noise with different frequency that your grey is hearing and is hurting him but, you can't hear it.
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4 hours ago, ringonsurah said:
I live in Ireland, its been about 20 degrees Celsius the past week or so which is hot for us! but our houses don't have AC. we have ordered a fan for him but have been leaving windows open for to try and get a bit of a cool breeze
That is not that hot but, if it is humid, he could be uncomfortable. Try a fan.
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How hot is it at night where you are? Do you have AC? Do you have a fan on?
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Infected anal glands can also cause an odor.
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Quite a few people with greyhounds on this forum use gabapentin for pain issues or seizures. When I used gaba, I used the capsule form and that is probably what most people are using however, you may still want to read the article even though it highlights an issue with the liquid form. More importantly, it highlights an issue in the way that the Merck manual specified the drug which is a good fact to file away in your head.
http://www.poisonedpets.com/dog-dies-after-being-treated-with-gabapentin-exposing-flaws-in-the-divide-between-human-and-animal-drugs/?fbclid=IwAR2xI_KJupb2pBfClwcsf7BtYh1KgPsNlByMj4aF_bPYz9GJGwhhUC3a7dk -
3 hours ago, Delehue said:
While they were standing in front of us. Marlow has to sit for his treats but Leo doesn't know a command yet (but we are working on it!) so he was standing.
And yes, Leo was laying down and Marlow came close to the bed. Probably about exactly 3 feet from the bed Leo was on.
That happens - this is from my experience fostering countless greyhounds.
Don't give them treats when they are standing next to each other. Put it in the dog bowl and make sure that they stay away from each other's dog bowls. As to beds - you need to make sure that they both stay away from each other when they are laying down - they should be about 4 feet away. Note, this can also happen with stuffies. When they are outside, put muzzles on as this can happen if they start running and get competitive.
This might get better with time or it might not. You do want to make sure that you muzzle or separate when you are leaving the house.
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Did you give treats while they standing up in front of you or did you drop them in the dog bowls?
It sounds like Leo was laying down and Marlow came close to the bed he was on - if this is correct - was Marlow about 2 or 3 feet from Leo when Leo jumped up and lunged?
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What were the situations when Leo went after Marlow? Describe as detailed as you can.
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Don't use chicken/eggs in the bland diet - use lean cooked hamburger instead - many dogs are allergic to chicken. Or, you can use a fish like tilapia (white fish) with white potatoes - this is sometimes recommended for dogs with IBD. I give my dogs cooked oatmeal and it usually helps to firm up the poop after a few days (has fiber).
I used to do elimination diets for greyhounds having GI issues and it was typical that at the 1 cup mark of kibble mixed in - they would get the diarrhea again. I was sometimes able to transition them to the Natural Balance Venison and sweet potato LTD (limited ingredient).
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Greyhounds are used to a schedule so, that tends to work best. Determine the times that work best for you and then start taking him out those times.
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Not common at all in greyhounds but, it could have been a galgo (sort of a Spanish greyhound). I have seen quite a few that are all white.
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How is she doing today?
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So sorry to hear that she got spooked. You probably need to start using a 3-point harness to make sure that she does not back out of the collar - spooked dogs will do that.
Does your back patio lead out to the street as an alternate way to take her out?
If you have to take her out the front door - get some steak and give her a few pieces in your living room and then use it to SLOWLY entice her to get closer and closer to going out. Take plenty out with you on the walk.
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The anesthesia could cause seizures, the infection could also have caused it, and, if they didn't monitor temperature and it went high - that could have also caused the seizures. It does sound like she is slowly getting better - it will just take time. You might want to get some bed mats and place them where she is sleeping as it will make cleanup easier. Take her outside at fixed intervals - maybe every 3 hours and see if that helps.
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Have him sleep in your room at night - greyhounds want to be with their owners. At your parents, maybe set up a crate in the room opposite their bedroom (so the dog can see them).
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Not being able to settle is part of post stage of seizures. Same with the "being out of it". When was the last seizure?
You might want to get some canned tripe - it really smells but, dogs love it and it might entice her to eat more.
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Has the vet suggested Denamarin for the liver?
You can try feeding a home-made diet. I give my dogs hamburg/fish, veggies, rice, oatmeal, eggs - they usually eat it well. They get snacks of yogurt with applesauce at night and toast with peanut butter in the morning.
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4 hours ago, IndyLouWho said:
@MaryJane If I could, I’d give you a hug right now! My husband and I had felt like seizures could take a little time to recover from. But the vets have told us within minutes-6 hours, if it were just a seizure, she’d be recovered. So we have just been at a loss. It’s so comforting to hear your experience and it puts my mind at a little ease in these tough times! Thank you!
Also, if your greyhound needs to go on meds for the seizures (more than 1 seizure a month), start with something like zonisamide - it is relatively side effect free. Make sure to go to a neurologist to get the meds as regular vets tend to prescribe pheno which has many more side effects some of which can be very damaging. You also want to talk to a neurologist for a "cluster-buster" - this is something that you would give if your dog has 2 or more seizures in 24 hours. It is meant to keep another seizure from happening too soon after the last one as this can cause what is called "status" -- literally, a non-stop seizure. My Lucy was on rectal Valium as a cluster-buster but, many neurologists are now using Keppra (there is a generic available that is cheaper). This also allows you to do more treatment at home rather than going into the ER for the seizures. My Lucy had seizures for almost 9 years and we never went to the ER for them - just handled them at home. She lived a very full life and the seizures never held her back (13+ years).
Another point about seizures, after your greyhound has one it is sometimes difficult for the to settle - they will want to keep on walking around and walking around and this can go on for a few hours. During this time they will be very disoriented and maybe staggering - this passes. I have found giving a bit of yogurt or ice cream (make sure no funny sugars) can settle them faster. This has been linked with sugar depletion during the seizure and giving a bit of yogurt/ice cream is intended to replenish the sugar store (about a tablespoon or two).
Be forewarned - Stay away from the FB seizure groups - they are really scary and many dogs have died as a result of suggestions by members. There is a great yahoo group that you should join - tons of information but, I haven't been an active member for a few years so, it may have changed. The address is epil-k9@apple.ease.lsoft.com.
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Also, you need to make sure that they culture the urine to find out what the bacteria is that is causing the UTI and what antibiotic will work. My Lucy had many UTI's - she tended to get them in the late fall/early winter.
Osteo Thread Part 9
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I just read this article and it talks about a osteo vaccine that's been in testing about 3 years. Not sure this is the same one that most people know about already. This one seems to use a component from the affected subject to create the vaccine so it is targeted only to the osteo cancer in that patient.
https://phys.org/news/2020-06-canine-bone-cancer-successfully-vaccine.html?fbclid=IwAR2-nf2VazY37uaynk107VvDLSMWpZGSF1ODYKbPtvnf9eD85lXPZGkfCi8