Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Sadie just got diagnosed with pannus. She's got steroid ointment that says to give 3x a day, but that's going to be 2x a day. There's just no way to give it every eight hours. I'm not waking up at 2 a.m. to do this. They said 2x should be fine. My question is this... does the milkiness go away or is it permanent? As soon as I put the steroids in her eye it got incredibly less red and that part looks normal now. Also, she's only got a flare up in one eye. Do I just put the steroids in the one with the flare up or should I put it in both eyes? I didn't get to take her to my regular vet. I will call them tomorrow (closed today) but just thought I'd ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rascalsmom Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) When Buddy was diagnosed with pannus, it was just in the one eye. He had previously injured it two times (corneal ulcer) and that's why the pannus developed. I don't think you need to put it in the other eye. I can't answer the question about the milkiness.... Edited November 2, 2009 by rascalsmom Quote Phoebe (Belle's Sweetpea) adopted 9/2/13. Jack (BTR Captain Jack) 9/28/05--11/2/12Always missing Buddy, Ruby, and Rascal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Energy11 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Goldie was diagnosed with Pannus at age four. I saw a white ring around her eye, and the vet diagnosed her with early Pannus. I have been using the steroid drops two times a day since. She will be nine in Dec. Her Pannus has never progressed :-) The redness is normal. It is hard to say whether the milikness will clear. Goldie's has never gotten to that stage. I did have a foster with really BAD Pannus. It was like she had a white growth on her eye, leaving her partially blind. THAT never cleared up with treatment, but the Pannus never progressed, either. It is a pretty common disease amoung Greyhounds, but easily treated. Two times a day is fine with the medication. Good Luck! " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mike Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) ONLY put the drops in the eye with the Pannus. Yes, many times they will develop pannus in the other eye too. You really want to try to use the drops 3x if that was recommended. I am a vet but I send my patients to an Ophtholmologist. You can have serious problems with too much pred too. Call the prescribing vet and ask if you can give first thing when you wake up, right when you get home and then at bedtime. The 8 hr spacing may not be as important as getting the drops in 3x. Usually, the white will dissapate in time unless blindness has already occured. Most dogs who are treated consistently with pred won't go blind. And no, it's really not that common in greyhounds. Yes, it occurs but it's not common. Most likely, you will be able to eventually decrease the drops. Some times not but usually. Sun is bad for the pannus and may cause it to advance quicker. Edited November 2, 2009 by mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I was told that twice a day was ok for now. I'm going to my regular vet (hopefully Friday) and will talk to him about it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Greyt_dog_lover Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have had a foster that had pannus. She didnt have the milkyness you describe, she had dark brown striations across her eyes. We started her with 3x a day (two different meds), then after 2 months, went to 2x a day (after visit with specialist). I adopted her out shortly after the 4th month of fostering her. I saw her about 6 months later and the brown striations were nearly gone. The new parents said the specialist said to use the ointment 1x every 3-4 days depending on the redness around the whites of her eyes. From my experience with only one hound, it seemed that it was corrected, but still needs maintenance meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Energy11 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I guess every vet has a different dosage, and of course, it probably depends on how bad the Pannus is. As Dr. Mike said, whatever dosage your vet recommends, is what to go by. I have had wonderful luck with two drops a day with Goldie, who does have Pannus in both eyes. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomDoggy Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Definitely try to see a veterinary ophthalmologist. They will be able to pinpoint things a regular vet (even a very good one) will miss. I have had two greyhounds with pannus. With Tipper, I caught it very early, and what started out as twice-daily eyedrops are now a very easy maintenance level of twice weekly, as prescribed by the ophthalmologist. Tip's visible symptoms decreased to the point where a regular vet can't even tell he has pannus anymore. And yes, if it shows up in one eye, it is possible for it to show up in the other down the road. But do not treat until diagnosed. Quote ~Aimee, with Flower, Alan, Queenie, & Spodee Odee! And forever in my heart: Tipper, Sissy, Chancy, Marla, Dazzle, Alimony, and Boo. This list is too damned long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 So I called the vet (this is why I don't use that vet for anything but emergency weekend hour appts)... They said 3x a day but that the last dose can just be when I go to sleep (less than 8 hours)... I tried looking up an ophthalmologist with no luck. Spud has to go in for his yearly so Sadie is just tagging along and I'll ask them for a referral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest G2G_Greys Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Don't panic...have Doc look at her. He has had a lot of greys with pannus and knows everything about it. If he feels that Sadie needs to see an ophthalmologist he will let you know. Don't worry....Doc will answer ALL your questions. (By the way...he will look at her eye too even if she is just a tag-along with Spud) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I know Jenny. I have no worries about it, don't think it's really developed enough to require anything more than the ordinary treatment. She is such a trooper though, she doesn't even flinch when I put the ointment in. Spud, however, is very peeved that he only gets one treat to Sadie's two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LindsaySF Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Cody gets his DI meds 3 times a day. They aren't always spaced 8 hours apart, depending on the meds it might not have to be. We do it first thing in the morning with breakfast, at lunch time, and when we go to bed. Good luck with Sadie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Energy11 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I know Jenny. I have no worries about it, don't think it's really developed enough to require anything more than the ordinary treatment. She is such a trooper though, she doesn't even flinch when I put the ointment in. Spud, however, is very peeved that he only gets one treat to Sadie's two. For what it is worth, Goldie never saw a specialist for her Pannus, and she has had it for five year, without it getting any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeh2o Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I agree with the poster who suggested seeing a veterinary ophthalmologist. From my experience, make sure they are board accredited (not a vet misleading people into believing they are an ophthalmologist). Carl's eye problem was first misdiagnosed as Pannus by a vet I only use as a back up now. Here's what I found in the Tucson area: Eye Care for Animals 141 E. Fort. Lowell Rd. Tucson, AZ 85705 520-888-4498 Eye Care for Animals 7474 E Broadway Tucson, AZ 85710 520-888-4498 Veterinary Specialty Center of Tucson 4909 N. La Canada Dr. Tucson, AZ 85704 Phone: (520) 795-9955 betbezedvm@yahoo.com Quote Sunsands Doodles: Doodles aka Claire, Bella Run Softly: Softy aka Bowie (the Diamond Dog) Missing my beautiful boy Sunsands Carl 2.25.2003 - 4.1.2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greykat Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Hi everyone, I have recently told my husband I felt our 10 year old grey, Max, looked like he started getting cloudy eyes. I notice it in some light, but other times he looks totally normal to me. Anyway, we recently started fostering a greyhound, and I've noticed both of them getting gunky eyes. And my Max now gets greenish eye boogers that I never used to see. He used to have the occasional black mucus that I could easily wipe away, but this all looks a little new to me. I've never seen a lighter color. The foster's gunk looks more like what Max used to have- black mucus I can wipe away. Anyway, at first I thought maybe the foster had a cold or something that Max caught. But there's no nose mucus and not much coughing. I'd rather be safe than sorry, and although Max's eyes don't look like what I've seen in pictures of Pannus, I'm taking him to the vet to get him checked out later today. Even if it isn't Pannus, an increase in eye mucus (especially when it's now occasionally greenish) is something worth checking out, no? I'll let you know the verdict. Hopefully it's nothing serious at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackandBrindle Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Anything with the eyes is worth a vet visit, in my opinion. Green mucus could mean an infection. Do let us know what's going on. Other than the redness of Sadie's eye I didn't notice anything else. Her eye discharge had not changed at all. It was only in the last few days that I noticed the cloudiness in part of her eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest greykat Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Good news! The vet didn't see signs of Pannus. Also tested for dry eye, glaucoma, and tumors (I think that's what he said?), and all were clear! So his diagnosis was conjunctivitis. We got eye drops to use 2x/day for a week. Max wasn't thrilled w/ my decision to cart him off to the vet, but I figure better safe than sorry! Luckily my vet made me feel good about the decision- he said you don't ever want to mess around when it comes to their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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