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  1. Neylasmom gave great info. My experience with gabapentin was very positive. Adding it to the tramadol/deramaxx combo brought Diesel's pain levels down. my vet was not cooperative about the gabapentin (had never used it or even heard of it being used), but yours sounds like he/she is familiar with it.

     

    The gabapentin gave us time with Diesel that we would not have had otherwise. With D, when it was time, the change was sudden. He had been fine all weekend, but late sun/ early mon he was really hurting. We couldn't get his pain under control and made the decision to let him go that mon. We had a vet (not the one mentioned earlier) come to our house to let D go. Just be prepared if you cant get his pain under control that it may be time.

     

    Lots of hugs for you and your boy. :grouphug:

  2. I've been trying to come up with something to post, but I just can't seem to get the right words out. I still can't believe he's gone. The house is so quiet now. D wasn't a very vocal hound, but he had so much presence. He was always so happy- about everything and anything. I remember when he came as a foster and everything scared him. Over time he went from being nervous and unsure to being the biggest, happiest, goofiest clutz in the house. He looked forward to every day and was always the first one to greet us in the morning, twirling his tail happily. As soon as the alarm went off, it was tail twirling nose in the eyeball time. Any and every event that involved his family, no matter how routine was met with glee.

     

    The house is so quiet now. So empty. Sully has been curling up on D's bed and stays there. He still eats and asks for pets, but he seems to miss his companion. Sebau kept very close to D those last weeks, and she is now keeping close to his bed as well. I keep expecting to turn around and see him standing there with one of his woobies (stuffed toys) in his mouth, doing his happy stompy dance and twirling his tail like he always did :(

     

    We all miss him so much.

     

    I never expected to be posting about an osteo diagnosis back in early December. It was a limp- he was getting older and was a bit arthritic, and was famous for his wipeouts while doing zoomies in the yard. He was so full of life- acting more like a 3 year old most of the time than his true age.

     

    For most of the time after his diagnosis, he was still happy and playful, just moving a bit slower. He enjoyed his popsicles (edy's all fruit- go figure!), pizza, beer and tripe, and he got lots and lots of those. We worked to manage his pain, which seemed at times to be a struggle with the vet who hadn't used pain meds past nsaids and older analgesics. Still, we kept it under control until early Monday morning. I don't know what changed, but suddlenly, it seemed like the meds just weren't helping. He hurt, and there was a new look, a tired, sad look in his eye that hadn't been there before. It was time.

     

    I am thankful to the vet- a new vet I hadn't used before, but who has a small mobile evening practice. She came out Monday night amidst the sleet and snow and helped D to the bridge. She and her assistant were wonderful- kind, caring and patient. D got to cross over peacefully in his home, on his favorite bed with his people and his pack with him.

     

    I'm sorry, I just can't type any more. I'll try to post more later, and post some pics when I can.

  3. I'm wondering the same thing about Sparks. Is he in too much pain? When is it the right time to let him go? He's still eating, running (kinda) 3 legged in the yard and loving treats.

    I hate this!

     

    Hugs to you as you deal with this as well

    :grouphug

     

    We're in the same position. :( I'm so sorry you all have to deal with it too. :grouphug I felt so guilty today emailing another vet to see if she did house calls for home euthanasia. While D isn't ready yet (and I don't think I'll ever be), I don't want to wait until the last minute and have no other options. I also don't want him to suffer or be in too much pain, but then, I don't want to let him go too early. How do you get it just right? Is there a "right"?

     

    I know that I want him to be at home where he is happy and comfortable if at all possible. Still, it made me feel awful. I don't really even want to think about it or face it. I wish I could just make the cancer go away, and wake up from this bad dream.

     

    It's just an awful situation to be in and I'm so sorry so many others are going through this too. :grouphug

  4. I was also surprised that they weren't familiar with gabapentin (I spelled it out to the tech, as well a couple of the common brand names). It's a very common drug at least in humans. I know many of the uses are off-label, but pain management is one of the big off-label uses.

     

    I'm not all that far from several major metropolitan areas, yet sometimes I swear I can go out the front door and hear the dueling banjos.... everything here seems to be at least a decade behind. :blink:

     

    My father was astounded that they weren't familiar with gabapentin at least in human use, even if they haven't used it much in animal practice. He also echoed that it can be given at remarkably high doses. The only thing to remember is if you are going to drastically reduce dosage or stop the medication, you need to taper it to prevent withdrawal symptoms.

     

    I will ask for the pill form- D is not at all hard to give pills to. He's such a food hound that I just pop the pills in a blob of tripe or just about any food item and he promptly inhales it.

     

    He has been having some trouble with the steps, so we are keeping the dogs downstairs (I'm also afraid of him falling and breaking his leg/shoulder with the osteo), though DH carries D up and down the steps for bed time.

     

    Thanks for letting me know about the change w/ consults w/ Dr. C.

  5. I'm very frustrated right now- I left 4 messages with the ditsy little receptionist (and a couple on the machine), starting at opening time. I wanted to talk to the vet about adding gabapentin (neurontin) and see if she would write a scrip so that I could pick it up and take it to the pharmacy this evening, and that Diesel was almost out of tramadol and needed more. No return call. At all. All I could get out of the tech was asking if I wanted an appointment for Fri or next week and an "oh, I'll give her your message. She's like real busy right now." :blink: By message 4 I wasn't terribly nice- just a very blunt message to have the vet call me ASAP. I don't expect the vet to be able to call me right away, but I do expect someone to make an effort to return a call, even if it's a tech calling back w/ a quick message from the vet.

    I ended up stopping by my dad's and he gave us a few days' worth of tramadol for D, so at least he's ok there.

     

    Perhaps I'm not being realistic expecting a call back the same day, but I can't stand seeing him hurting and it's so frustrating to just not get a response when you really need one, and not being able to do anything about his pain. :angryfire

     

    OK- ETA the vet just called back, so the message did go through, if a bit garbled. I'm just too impatient :blush and a bit spazzy/frantic about my boy. I suggested the gabapentin. They are not familiar with it and haven't used it. They'll call the specialist and ask about dosages and will call it in to the local pharmacy tomorrow.

  6. Thanks Jen! I'm so sorry about Neyla. :grouphug I wouldn't wish this journey on anyone or anyone's pup, but I am glad I'm not alone.

     

    Diesel is still hanging in there, but we're going to have to do a med change to manage his pain- what he's on just isn't cutting it anymore. DH is off tomorrow and will be talking to the vet, and I know I'll be calling from work as well. I know we can try heavier narcotics, but what about other meds like neurontin (we are maxxed out on NSAIDS, so that part cannot be increased)? I know it's used primarily for neuropathic pain (as well as seizures and migraines in humans), but I thought I recalled someone using it with some success w/ an osteo pup. In the meantime, he is majorly being spoiled. I need to upload some pics I took right around his diagnosis time where he was seriously working DH over for some pizza crust. :lol (This morning he hit DH up for his coffee :lol though now he expects it brought TO him! :P I told Steve that he is now D's personal barista/snack chef. :lol )

     

    :grouphug to all of you and your pups who have fought and/or are still fighting osteo

  7. It's not good. The X rays showed a moth-eaten looking lesion on his upper humerus. The vet said the location was a bit higher up than is commonly found, but not all that unusual. She suggested biopsy to confirm, but I declined because of the risk of fracture. I'm to call on Mon. about setting up a time to try a fine needle aspirate if I want to go that route. I do want her to send the films to Dr. Cuoto for confirmation, and I'll send her that info when I call on Monday. Right now, he's on 50mg Deramaxx per day, and also 100 mg tramadol 2x day. At the moment he's still groggy and sleeping off the anesthesia. I keep going over the options in my head.... wondering what's best... I just wish there was a -real- option- one that just got completely rid of the damned stuff-period.

  8. Diesel has been limping on and off on his front left for quite a while. He had films done about a year and a half ago, and everything was fine (just arthritis- and arthritic feet, wrists...). He got some deramaxx to use when needed. It wasn't too surprising when he started to limp a bit this fall when the weather really swung. Heck, I hurt too! But the deramaxx suddenly didn't help this week. And the limp was not the same- there was a level of pain that was not present before, and the way he was limping was different than the stiff arthritic limp that would get better w/ movement. He went to the vet today, who is also concerned. The deramaxx was upped to keep him comfortable and a blood panel done in preparation for a full set of X rays on Sat. morning. He was freaking so much that there is no way it can be done w/o sedation, esp. w/the angles to get good shots of the one area of his shoulder that is suspect. :(

     

    I don't even want to mention the word. I'm just hoping it isn't, that it's anything else other than that. He's only 10. :(

  9. I also say give the omega 3's a try. I use them with my pups, and it really seems to help. We also do the glucosamine/chondroitin. (I say "we" because I take the same stuff :lol ). I'll have to check out the Boswellia- I had noticed it in some of the supplements, but hadn't tried it as I was not familiar with it.

  10. Only problem I can see with the upside down vinyl carpet thingy is that it may not let enough water through. They do make a mesh version in plastic/vinyl with similar little plastic pricklies that deters cats and dogs because it just doesn't feel nice on the feet. I've also tried a couple brands of the shake-on type deterrents with no success.

     

    I may have to do the prickly mesh thing with the front gardens. The neighbor's cats are digging it up majorly and spraying & pooping everywhere. (the 3am cat fights are fun too). ICK!

  11. I second the fasting for a day (but make sure to give him access to water!) and then bland diet for a couple days to see if that calms down his system. Usually people do Chicken/Rice or Beef/Rice (just drain the fat). I use either potatoes or pasta instead of the rice-- it seems to sit better. (and beef, Diesel can't do chicken) If it gets worse, or he's getting dehydrated, you'll need to take him to the vet sooner. Since he's not too long out of the kennel, parasites are another possibility. Sometimes it takes a few doses to get rid of all of them, and they can definitely cause loose stools/diarrhea. When he does go to the vet, bring a fresh stool sample. (I'm sure being newly adopted and stressed isn't helping either, sometimes that alone is enough to cause loose stools!)

     

    I've found that it's not necessarily an issue of "good food" vs "bad food". It can be the highest quality food but if it doesn't work for your dog, it isn't the best for him. Avoderm isn't a bad food though. I'm feeding the lamb version here. Two of mine do great on darned near any food, but Diesel has a sensitive stomach and it works the best for him. We've also had luck with Pro Plan Sensitive (salmon) and the old Canidae Lamb (I wish they hadn't changed the formula!). If in the long run it is a food issue, there are lots of alternatives on the market now, and a fair amount of reasonably priced good quality foods as well.

     

     

  12. We use frontline plus here. It still works fine, but we aren't in an area of the country where it's warm most of the year (i.e. Florida, Georgia, etc., where fighting bugs is year round and they develop resistance pretty quickly. ) Frontline plus is a combination of a broad spectrum insecticide (fipronil) and an IGR (insect growth regulator), S-Methoprene. The S-Methoprene screws up the growth hormones, so any eggs laid are sterile, and juveniles can't complete their life cycle. I use S-Kinoprene in the greenhouse for the same thing (along with imidacloprid and other insecticides as/if necessary)

     

    Advantage and Advantix both use imidacloprid (a synthetic nicotinoid) as the insecticide (kills fleas & other insects). However, Advantix also adds permethrin to kill ticks. Permethrin + cats is NOT good, so don't use Advantix if you have cats.

     

     

  13. Diesel will get a bald butt every summer (with a little "butt fringe" left on the far sides :lol ) and then it will start to regrow when the temperatures drop in the fall. By mid-winter, he is quite hairy-- to the point that we call him "wooly boy". In late spring, he starts shedding and the bald butt comes back. :lol It's the same cycle every year. Sully's butt will get a bit sparse in the summer, but not as bald as Diesel. He also doesn't get as fuzzy in the winter either.

  14. Not being the owner of a broke-leg dog, but Mandy has arthritis. She's 12. I think you can expect arthritis in any dog and at any age.

    But doesn't every broken bone in a leg require surgery? :dunno

     

    And WELCOME to GT!!!!!! :)

     

    No, it would depend on location and severity. Remember a "break" can range from a simple hairline fracture all the way to a hideous compound fracture needing reduction, stabilization, etc. So, on one end you have just crate rest or crate rest + cast and on the other end major orthopedic surgery.

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