Signs Of Slowing Down

[Guest Bethf03]

Sexton has been showing small signs of equilibreum loss, he tends to swirve, run into things, walls, doors, us. This morning I know he wanted to go out the doggie door to go potty, but he just looked out the door with a little sway and finally steped back in and sat down. this evening when I came home he went into his kennel, doing his circle around his pillow to get comfortable, and all of a sudden I heard a Thump!,,, he must have just fell down, before that happened I notice he was doing something with his back leg like it was trying to step and it wasnt steady.

That side of his head where the cancer is, his mouth is like just saggy and slobbers.

Does anyone have any ideas what could be happening. I understand the cancer is effecting him ( he still gets tramadyl 1 pill a day).

I have been really keeping and eye on him lately. I would take him to work with me if my boss would let me.

 

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers and messages of hope.

 

Bethf

[Guest KyGrey]

I don't know if it's the same but with humans the left side of the brain affects the right side of the body and vice versa. Could he have a little LS going on? Lee is known to get a little wobbly at times but he has LS. He is also 13 yrs old. How old is Sexton?

 

:grouphug

[Guest Bethf03]

He's 9 (what is LS?). I know that its the cancer that he has on top of his head on the bone.

I don't know if it's the same but with humans the left side of the brain affects the right side of the body and vice versa. Could he have a little LS going on? Lee is known to get a little wobbly at times but he has LS. He is also 13 yrs old. How old is Sexton?

 

:grouphug

 

[Guest KyGrey]

LS is Lumbrosacral Stenosis. It is inflammation of or around the spinal cord back not too far from the base of the tail.

 

There is an article floating around that Dr. Stack wrote. I will see if I can find it. If someone else has it handy can you please post it here? It is very informative.

 

[Guest KyGrey]

This is from Dr. Stack's site:

 

Lumbosacral Stenosis (Cauda Equina)

 

 

Oudry, Jean-Bapiste (1686-1775); 1723

Image courtesy PicturesNOW!.

 

 

Suzanne Stack, DVM

 

 

As our greyhounds age, quite a few of them, especially the males, become weak, wobbly, and/or painful in the rear end. Many of these are affected by lumbosacral stenosis (LS), a narrowing of the last part of the spinal canal, which causes compression of the nerve roots.

 

Signs are rear end pain, lameness, weakness, "shuffling," knuckling over, foot dragging, and muscle wasting. Both urinary and fecal incontinence are possible and carry a worse prognosis. Greyhounds may even lose their appetite from the pain and "waste away."

 

The difficulty in diagnosing LS is twofold. Many veterinarians simply do not recognize the signs. LS looks neurologic, and technically, it is. But a rare and obscure neurological disease, it is not. Beware a diagnosis of "hip dysplasia" in a greyhound - greyhound hips are by and large excellent. The second problem is that unless your greyhound is "lucky" enough to have visible arthritis on lumbosacral x-rays, the only techniques to confirm LS are pretty high tech - CT, MRI, discography, etc.

 

Not only can LS be difficult to "nail down," the other problem is that oral medications such as Rimadyl, Etogesic, glucosamine, aspirin, prednisone, etc. do little for LS since it is not arthritis, but rather, "doggy sciatica" i.e., pinching of the nerve roots.. It presents a sad problem. The "cure" is referral spinal surgery to free up the trapped nerve roots, not something many owners will consider in a geriatric greyhound. Many if not most greyhounds simply get worse and worse until euthanasia becomes necessary.

 

The good news is that there is a simple palpation technique to detect LS and a way to inject Depo-Medrol intralesionally to help it, similar to what is done in humans. It was taught to me by Dr. Mike Herron, a professor of small animal orthopedic surgery at Texas A & M for 32 years, owner of racing greyhounds, and all around "greyhound guru." You may want to clip this out for your vet to see should one of your greyhounds begin showing signs of LS.

 

This is an easy procedure that you do with the dog standing up, basically an intramuscular injection into the lumbosacral area. There is absolutely no danger of hitting the spinal cord or any important structures. The worst thing that can happen is that it doesn't help the dog.

 

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First, look at the diagram to see where the L-S joint lies in relation to the iliac crests so that you hit the right spot both with your thumbs for palpating and with the needle for injecting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Put all your fingers on the ventral ridge of the greyhound's iliac crest. Put each thumb just medial to each iliac crest about halfway down its ridge. Your thumbs should be between the iliac crest and the vertebrae. Be sure to look at the diagram so you can see where the L-S joint lies in relation to the iliac crests. Try to "crack" (move) the L-S joint. If it hurts (or he falls to the ground!), chances are he has LS.

 

Draw up 20 mg of Depo-Medrol and using a 1" needle, inject half of this into each side. Go about halfway down the ridge of the iliac crest, go in (medially) 1", and inject just off the midline (this is where you put your thumbs to try to "crack" the L-S joint).

 

If the greyhound does not show improvement within 48 hours, the problem is something else. Repeat as needed as Depo-Medrol's effect wears off - usually every 3-6 months.

 

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A footnote worth mentioning for LS is Ultram, a human "combination" drug with both a narcotic-like and an antianxiety component. Used sometimes for bone cancer in dogs - another very painful condition - I have tried it with good results on two LS dogs when Depo-Medrol injections were not enough. A greyhound dose is 50 mg Ultram as needed for pain, given up to twice daily.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Bethf03]

Thank you, I would be very interested in reading it.

LS is Lumbrosacral Stenosis. It is inflammation of or around the spinal cord back not too far from the base of the tail.

 

There is an article floating around that Dr. Stack wrote. I will see if I can find it. If someone else has it handy can you please post it here? It is very informative.

 

[Guest houndlover]

Beth, I have never dealt with anything like this but my heart goes out to you and Sexton.

[patricia]

Sending more prayers for your sweet baby.

[4greyhounds]

Sending lots of prayers and white light....

[Guest argolola]

You and Sexton are in my continued prayers.

[carronstar]

Sending prayers and good thoughts for your lovely boy.

[Guest Spencers_Greyt]

Poor baby! You might look into acupuncture to help with his wobbliness. It helped my Spencer a lot.